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Dear whiny artists

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Get with the times. Stop crying about the freedom of the internet. What allows you to get your art out there also allows folks to share it. You've no doubt torrented the software you use to draw.
Truth is you gotta change how your rewards work, it's too easy to pirate art. I feel your pain, but bawling about it isn't going to do much to help your case.

Incentivize your patreon.

Early access makes it less likely that people will rip your patreon when they can receive the free work later.
Offer better reward tiers, free sketches for patrons.
Raffles.
Stream links.
Discord access.
Password protected PDFs are easy to workaround, but they're still something. Send out different passwords to different emails. You'll know who leaked your pics.

Take responsibility for your inability to sell your assets properly. It's the equivalent to getting pissy about men sneaking a look at exposed cleavage.
And most people pirating it weren't looking to support you anyway.

>>122347
"Wise words to get bent from" by "The strongest"

>>122347
Hey buddy. I got another Idea... shut the hell up. Don't give them fucking ideas. That's just asking for the site to die.

>>122356
Its like those true crime documentaries where the forensic specialists say "if only they'd have done it like 'this', they'd probably never have been caught"... "this type of poison is completely untraceable", "he forgot to scratch the serial off the gun", "he should've covered up the barcode on his neck rather than just dress up as the postman" etc etc.

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>>122347
>free sketches for patrons
yeah sure, not like that would be just pirated with the rest. & if you've meant a custom sketch for each patron - oh yeah, right, totally feasible to do a 100 of them a month on top of regular content.
>Raffles
explicitly forbidden by patreon.
inb4 "do it on the sides" - one of you salty cunts would report it straight away.
>Discord access
most people dgaf about discord. just because you zoomer cunts waste your life there, it doesn't mean normies do as well.
>Stream links
fucking same, most people are not twitchfags.

>And most people pirating it weren't looking to support you anyway.
>Offer better reward tiers
you see what's the problem here, don't you? your whole premise is "pander me more, maybe i'll pay one day"... but none of you ever will, because pic related.

>>122347
Early Access is a good idea, personally, I'm of the mindset that the art shouldn't be behind a paywall. Just as I find the idea that you are not owed artwork, I also kinda find it snobby the artist believes his work is only for the privileged.

Free sketches is a bad idea, however. When you have a project or goal to achieve, you don't want to add extra work on your shoulders, it's easy to get overwhelmed with so many things to do or worse get burnout.

I think raffles are considered gambling, which Patreon is against, so scratch that one too.

Streams are always a good thing, can't disagree with this one.

Discord is also a good thing, honestly, it's probably easier to manage a discord server than Patreon to begin with, the only downside is, of course, time zones, but I guess that means those in different time zones can just use the main site.

Ultimately, the keywords are also better marketing, it's about asking those with the financial stability to support you if they enjoy your work. Building paywalls will always bring those who want to tear it down.

It's also a good idea to not have "high rollers" sure it's nice to have some dude from butt fuck nowhere throwing you $250 a month, but it's better to have 100 $2,50 that one of the previously mentioned. Because if they leave, it's gonna hurt.

>>122356
Just as you have adapted to the artist's strategies, the artists should adapt to you. It's a good thing to find a synergy of them being able to make money to continue making content and you getting the stuff for free.

>>122377
Are you trying to make this site die?

>>122429
If it is unable to adapt, then maybe it should die. It will just be replaced with something else. Piracy is inevitable.

Wasn't Patreon supposed to be like a tip jar like thing and a small scale support system?

I think that dishonest business practices (which is the current norm of many Patreonfags) and massively relying on what is supposed to be a supportive mechanism is how you get fucked up. And Artists /deserve/ to be fucked up with the circumstances they're creating with Patreon.

>>122373
>Normies
>Furies

Pick ONE.

>>122347
>Early access makes it less likely that people will rip your patreon when they can receive the free work later.
Fair, although I'd prefer Paytreon-fagging stopped all together in favor of the original donation scheme (either straight or with minor (MINOR) incentives)
>Offer better reward tiers, free sketches for patrons.
>Raffles.
Agree.
>Discord access.
>Password protected PDFs.
No. Stop. You just moved the issue instead of addressing why the art is being pirated in the first place (hint: pirates DO have the money, we just don't want to pay) In order to stop a cat and mouse game, you first stop engaging the mouse.

Do not suggest them using monthly art pack walls. Those are more annoying especially when it's given via PM.

>>122347
Wise words my friend. Some artists in Patreon need to know that we can't afford all the content they post in their patreon pages behind paywalls. Is really that hard to understand? Specially because, for some reason, many artists are asking for $5 to get the minimum content, I mean, you don't unlock everything.

>>122475
>I'd prefer Paytreon-fagging stopped all together in favor of the original donation scheme
>pirates DO have the money, we just don't want to pay
got it champ, it makes perfect sense now. artistfags are stupid for trying to make you pay, when they could just let you not to donate any money and get their stuff. genius.

OP here.

>>122356
>>122429
Comments like this make you as bad as some of the artists. "sh-shut up, stop spreading my stuff/information!!"
It's the internet, this is going to get out one way or another. If you care this much about the site dying, I'm surprised you don't care as much about the individual artists struggling to pay rent.
And no, this site will continue to put up art packs that artists hide behind a paywall. I'm suggesting routes that might cause a pirate to legitimately want to donate.
>>122373
"baaawww nobody wants to see my streams anyway"
I'm so sorry that your idea of how to monetize your content is sorely outdated, I'm merely suggesting you make an effort outside of your comfort zone to reap SOME benefit from your occupation. Continue having your art packs ripped if you prefer.
Give them a vote instead of a raffle, then. Little incentives won't catch all the fish, but if you're looking to make this your career you can't expect to do the bare minimum.
>>122377
"I also kinda find it snobby the artist believes his work is only for the privileged."
This is a weird way of saying that you believe they should work for free. Again, you sound just as entitled as they do.
>>122439
No. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to be paid for your work. However, there IS something wrong with demanding change from other people instead of taking responsibility for your lack of income.
>>122475
It's called capitalism. Give someone an incentive and they'll make you what you want. The true cunts are the artists giving away their content for free - they've made it an incredibly unprofitable venture.
Art is being pirated because it's easy, not because of some unjust issue. We're not moralfags here, we just want free content. Artists need to smarten up.

>>122595
>The true cunts are the artists giving away their content for free - they've made it an incredibly unprofitable venture.

Keep telling yourself that.

>>122595
>capitalism
Shitty excuse for an anti-consumer model. Last time I checked, nobody was hunting the Gumroad artists down, until Paytreon decided to start hard-paywalling there.
>n-no you must monetize, y-you can't make things for the enjoyment of others
Artists used to starve for a reason. Now we might as well treat them like soulless businesses.

>>122603
Nothing worse than peers who undervalue themselves.
>>122608
That wasn't a support of patreon. It was a response to you getting pissy about not being able to access some work. Given that you pirate most of it, I can't quite fathom why you're angry.
>>Artists used to starve for a reason. Now we might as well treat them like soulless businesses.
Treat them however you like. It's their responsibility to make their own money and stop whining about it. I'm just surprised you're acting just as entitled. Poor you.

>>122595
Is thus the DRM artist guy? So he couldn't ppst his shetty talking points in the ego thread. Now he makes his own to say the same increadibly dumb shit.

>>122624
So you're the type who values nothing but money, and is incapable of understanding people who don't. Sad, really.
>It's their responsibility to make their own money
Did regular jobs suddenly stop existing after 2013?
The rest of your reply is covered in vague and incoherent babble. Try again?

DELETE THIS

>>122595
>"I also kinda find it snobby the artist believes his work is only for the privileged."
>This is a weird way of saying that you believe they should work for free. Again, you sound just as entitled as they do.

Is that your whole focus on everything I said, and then decided to even take it out of context?

The point I was making was agreeing with Early Access where an artist releases their work openly later down the line on a public gallery. I don't believe art should be done for free at all.
It's also good marketing as it shows an online presence which in turn brings more support.

>"the individual artists struggling to pay rent"
Far too many of them are dumbfucks who sink 300k dolares of debt into art school and cry about it later on when they realize how unprofitable their mediocre "passion" is. I've known many idiotic "artists" who did this.

I think their "whining" are completely justified.
No matter how much you want to twist it, we're thieves. Own up to it.

>>122603
LOL, artists who are happy to let people see what they draw for free while making money from commissions like 90% of online artists used to do (and still get a lot of business, judging by how quickly comm slots get filled), are true cunts. What a Jewish muppet.

>>122741
Ever heard of the extremely common saying? "Highway Robbery"? Or the all too common concept of "something being terrible value for money"?.

>>122650
Could be. He's everywhere these days lol, waiting to write BS essays at the drop of a hat, like his buddy boy, RMB Acne Fedora.

>>122758
You're still trying to justify it.

>>122766
Just like the Jews/Paytresharks are. What you don't understand (?) is that it works both ways; not to mention this is a piracy site, both of which (but especially the latter) mean it doesn't need to be (therefore isn't being) justified.

>>122624
>undervalue

>>122756
>implying artists never get money while making content freely available
>implying all artists are in it for the money

>>122766
Where do you think the content comes from?

>>122884
>implying artists never get money while making content freely available
>implying all artists are in it for the money

Are you stoned? The comment you're referencing doesn't even imply either of those things FFS...

>>122771
We both agree it doesn't need to be justified. But it is, and that's stupid.

>>122347
>Early access makes it less likely that people will rip your patreon when they can receive the free work later.
This is categorically untrue. My art started being pirated literally the moment I put any of it behind a week long early access. Just 1 single week and that was enough for my art to be put up on here. Not like I was super popular either. Think I had about 6 or so patrons at the time lol.

>free sketches for patrons
Typically this type of reward has to be severely limited due to time constraints. You can't just promise a sketch to literally every single patron you get every single month. Not to mention it wouldn't even be worth it unless you priced the tier quite high. Think of it like this, how much do artists typically charge for a sketch commission? Cause that is about how much the tier would have to cost plus a bit extra for any other rewards they get for it to make sense.

>Raffles
As already mentioned, this is against Patreon's ToS. This was something I tried earlier on, and instantly got contacted by patreon telling me to stop.

>>122347
>Stream links.
As opposed to streams typically being free? This is the first time I have seen anyone here advocate for more being put behind a paywall lol. Though with that said there are also some issues with this. Doing public streams you sometimes have a chance to get donations and such. Plus, it's $15 per month just to do private streams on Picarto. That means you would have to at least have enough patrons interested in this reward and willing to pay the cost that it justifies losing that $15 per month, plus however much you typically make in a public livestream.

>Discord access
Most people don't care about this. Heck, most even offer this as a reward already, so not even sure why this is on your list.

>Send out different passwords to different emails. You'll know who leaked your pics.
It's honestly too much of a hassle. At least to me. Personally, I just put up a website so if people want to share my artwork, they have to manually upload it.

>>122650
>Is thus the DRM artist guy?
>>122760
>Could be. He's everywhere these days lol

For some reason I feel insulted that you all would think this thread was created by me. I am hurt. XD I actually have not been around for quite some time, you should have noticed I stopped commenting in that thread. I shall go by the name Bun so I am easily recognizable. But don't be fooled cause on this site, anyone can use the name Bun. Talk about inconvenient. Sus everyone with the name Bun ... in that case. Not me though, cause I am the real one.

>>122475
>I'd prefer Paytreon-fagging stopped all together in favor of the original donation scheme
I would prefer the original donation method as well. I would love being able to just release my work publicly and also be capable of getting enough donations to keep doing it. Sadly, it didn't work ... I tried. Literally the only thing that did work was when I started doing exclusives. So what it taught me is people who like supporting artists on patreon, want stuff other people can't get. In reality, it's hardly the artist's fault, when that is what works. All of you can complain about it as much as you like, but that is simply the reality. Want to change it? Then make it worth the artists time. Otherwise you might as well be a bum on the street asking for a full course meal for free at the chance that someone else might pay for it.

>why the art is being pirated in the first place
Cause some people are entitled cunts and deserve to be slapped. You know that batman and robin meme? Kinda like that.

... Or maybe we should go back to the old days and chop off hands. (IS A JOKE, stop being so serious)

>>122931
Once again guys, responding to lecture-mcgee is not worth your time. Ignore him.

>>122931

There is actuallly some truth to this statement.
I know a lot of people who are appealed by the fact,
that the things they posses,
are unobtainable by the mean crowd.

But, I can assure you all here,
that none of the artists whether here on this website
or on patreon are worth any money.

This website looks a lot like the bottom of the barrel
fighting over scraps.

sorry.

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>>123003
Not many people understanding the logic of "Don't feed the troll"... *sigh*

>>122907
But not as stupid as strolling into a lions den during the height of mating season and slapping the alpha lion in the balls with a wet towel while wearing a pair of boxers made of pieces of raw steak stapled together.

>>122898
This comes after >>122603.

>>123014
>There is actuallly some truth to this statement. I know a lot of people who are appealed by the fact, that the things they posses, are unobtainable by the mean crowd.
Ya, I have always found it pretty weird and I don't quite understand the motivation behind it. Some people just really like the idea of having something others can't get.

>But, I can assure you all here, that none of the artists whether here on this website or on patreon are worth any money.
That's a very broad statement to make and highly disagree with it. First of all, what is worth something and isn't is actually fairly subjective. It's typically why despite many of you thinking it's not worth it, these artists very often still have a following of some kind that is willing to pay. I also think it's pretty weird for people to claim something isn't worth it, but then they go out of their way to steal it. It just comes off as so illogical to me. If something isn't even worth $1 - 5 to me, there is a good chance I wouldn't even seek it out for free.

>>123288
Or maybe some people don't mind having a normal human conversation where we may not always necessarily agree. Just cause there is a disagreement somewhere, doesn't automatically make me a troll.

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>>123621

>>123621
>these artists very often still have a following of some kind that is willing to pay.
Those types are called asskissers and they bend the fuck over backwards because they seriously think Master will reward them with "special treatment" in return for their "loyalty." I've read my fair share of [retarded] Paytreon, Fagaffinity, eshit21, and Twatter posts to confirm, without a doubt, this is beyond true.
>I also think it's pretty weird for people to claim something isn't worth it, but then they go out of their way to steal it. It just comes off as so illogical to me. If something isn't even worth $1 - 5 to me, there is a good chance I wouldn't even seek it out for free.
Well, considering the fact it's hidden on Paytreon, wouldn't being able to checking it out offsite (FOR FREE) so you can decide on your own terms if you really want to make a monthly commitment for it, be a good idea? Knowing that it was put out there for free, why should you be forced to pay? Artfags "make" enough money as it is and I don't want to contribute further to their cunty behavior regarding this.
>stealing
And rent-seeking is not?

>>122672
/u/undeleteparent

>>123882
>Those types are called asskissers and they bend the fuck over backwards because they seriously think Master will reward them with "special treatment" in return for their "loyalty." I've read my fair share of [retarded] Paytreon, Fagaffinity, eshit21, and Twatter posts to confirm, without a doubt, this is beyond true.
Even if true, that still means they feel it's worth paying for, so it really doesn't invalidate my point, at least I don't think it does. With that said, I don't think it's entirely true anyway. Obviously there are going to be some who are asskissers, but there are also going to be some who simply like the artwork and want to support he artist. A good example of this is how I have some patrons who pretty much don't ever claim heir rewards and don't ever talk but have been a patron for over a year. No ass kissing, just support. And my only guess as to why is cause they like what I draw and want to see more of it.

It could also be they don't want to see more artists disappear. I draw fetishy art, and many popular artists have moved on from it. Which isn't surprising, many want to break into the more professional world. If you make an artist feel like they can make a living off doing NSFW artwork, then they may just stick around instead of moving on.

>>123882
>Well, considering the fact it's hidden on Paytreon, wouldn't being able to checking it out offsite (FOR FREE) so you can decide on your own terms if you really want to make a monthly commitment for it, be a good idea?
Assuming that is what it's being used for, which I am sure some do. But it's more often not used for this purpose.

>Artfags "make" enough money as it is
This isn't even true. It seems so bizarre cause I have come across this argument several times on here with this claim. How much do you think artists typically make without using patreon? Where do you get to this idea they make enough, or what is enough to you?

>>123882
>And rent-seeking is not?
I don't think you understand what that term means because I just looked it up and do not understand how it applies here. Artists are producing artwork, they are the creators. They are the ones doing the work in order for that art to exist. Even if artists gave away something for free once before, doesn't mean they have to forever. And that isn't called rent-seeking. Rent-seeking is when you are trying to make a profit off of something that doesn't require any work or contribution, basically padding profits. For example, a person charging people to use a path that passes through land they own. There is no cost or work involved for the owner if they just made it for free, yet they chose to have a fee.

Again, artists are doing work. They are the sole contributor to that artwork existing in the first place. You can't call that rent-seeking when they decide they want money for it.

Ahh crap I forgot to put in my name, last 3 posts are mine.

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https://ouo.io/dCEBgY

I don't know how many times I will need to repeat myself: Do not engage this person in conversation. He's just going to dodge around questions, use faulty logic, and then redirect the conversation to other petty crap.

>>124139
i was about to believe your 3 posts but then you blew it by admitting your same faggotry

>>124167
>but then you blew it by admitting your same faggotry
I honestly have no idea what you mean.

>>124147

I didn't want to see that FFS :(

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Just some random thoughts:
If artists really wanted this site down, I wonder why none of them came up with the idea to just simply flood this page with some really inappropriate imagery.

It's easy to accomplish, It has brought down many many boards due to the dangers of getting in trouble with the law and it draws a lot of negative media attention.

Just wondering.

>>125438
Already suggests, that there are succsessfull attempts of spam.

>>125780
Admin would shut it down pretty quick, and be forced to do actual work. He wants to pocket that $400 we give him per month now, so that avenue of attack wouldn't work.

>>125797
go on buddy, set up an illegal scraper website, that hosts 60+tb of data, has probably double of that in bandwidth per month, oh and don't forget to hide the whole thing behind multiple level of "proxies" so your ass doesn't get sued, and lets see how much you'll "pocket" out of 400 at the end of the month.
also,
>$400 we give him per month
>we give him
>we
LAMAOTOPKEK

>>125823
>set up an illegal scraper website
Not illegal if the donors source the content.

>we
Yes, donation money comes from the userbase. Where's the confusion?

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>>125826
>Not illegal if the donors source the content.
PFFFFF.... HAHAHAHAAAAA. now that was funny.
>"Your Honor,"
>"My client paid for the content in question"
>"Therefore, as per the law of the internet, by his purchase he clearly acquired unrestricted global distribution rights for said content"
>"The defence rests its case."
>prosecution cries in the corner

OP, You doing it all wrong. If you have to "incentivize" a theft or bully in hopes for them to stop. What's stopping them from making more unreasonable demands or holding you or other hostage, the next week, or the one after that? At least the Mafia are smart enough with the ability and clout to protect their client from other pack of thieves or provide resources to their clients to help them grow. So the client can actually sustain itself to provide more and the Mafia get top pick in which they want to harvest while making an ally.

Your proposal just merely runs most clients or artists into the ground that much faster and exposes them to more liabilities. Desperately bottom feeding until it implodes. Shaming tactics to cover up a bad plan, is still a bad plan. If you constantly have to piss on the tap you are stealing from, don't complain if it taste funny or it starts to run out.

If you genuinely enjoy someone's artwork or appreciate hard work, and you are are supposedly that poor or have to steal. At least share positive reviews or upvotes to encourage the creator to make more. It doesn't cost a thing, but it will cost you if you completely sabotage what you enjoy.

If you are a loyal fan and are on good terms with a creator. Most don't mind sharing art if you stop sponsoring them or if you happen to be down on your luck or unemployed. Play it cool, just don't be douchey or too self entitled about it.

>>125875
>If you are a loyal fan and are on good terms with a creator. Most don't mind sharing art if you stop sponsoring them or if you happen to be down on your luck or unemployed.
I actually do this quite often. One of my previous patrons who was one for nearly a year hasn't been able to remain a patron due to the whole world being fucked at the moment, and I share pretty much all the patreon exclusives with him still. Though, I don't know if this is something other artists do, I can only say I do it. But I do have to assume I can't be the only one.

>>125845
>strawmanning this hard

>>125875
>If you genuinely enjoy someone's artwork or appreciate hard work, and you are are supposedly that poor or have to steal. At least share positive reviews or upvotes to encourage the creator to make more. It doesn't cost a thing, but it will cost you if you completely sabotage what you enjoy.
Perhaps, but it's up to the artist to make that kind of sabotage even possible.

who wants to play spot the smiley face

>>122919
> his is categorically untrue. My art started being pirated literally the moment I put any of it behind a week long early access. J

dude how old are you? Have you not yet learned one of the most important rules of this life? Lying people lie. Almost always when their mouth is opened. Especially when they are trying to manipulate someone like a child trying to deceive an adult.
There is a simple rule - to fight evil with good is stupid. This does not work. Never and nowhere. Evil has no conscience, decency and uses any methods. Only if you are able to hit harder - you will be left alone;) In all other cases - you will be fucked. It's just inevitable, that's how life works.

> free sketches for patrons
>> Typically this type of reward has to be severely limited due to time constraints. You can't just promise a sketch to literally every single patron you get every single month.

let the child dream up. These wet fantasies so beckon;))) But if we discard the hypocrisy, then we are talking about the formula: you have to work hard and do work more expensive than the amount of a typical payment on Patreon of 3-5 dollars. And yet you have to do something else beyond that. Work at a loss or for free;)
But remember point 1 - even then you will be fucked.
Just because they can :)

>>122919
> Raffles
>> As already mentioned, this is against Patreon's ToS. This was something I tried earlier on, and instantly got contacted by patreon telling me to stop.

yes, another dumb hypocrisy. trying to make a small lottery is a terrible crime in seriously ill countries. Only big moneybags can make loot boxes for idiots.


> Ya, I have always found it pretty weird and I don't quite understand the motivation behind it. Some people just really like the idea of ​​having something others can't get.

No. When a person has managed to grow a brain and start earning, he usually enjoys not only earning, but also spending. If, at the same time, he feels that he is not just pleasing to some artist. But he also gets something that will never get RMB - despite their moaning and howling on the other side of the door ... This in itself is doubly pleasant.

By the way, I give an idea. Some artists use the idea of ​​"extra pages" that only the current month sponsor can get. It is impossible to get the old pages if you came later.
For artists, this increases the stability of funding from honest people. And for RMB - inflammation of the hot ass.

The probability that someone will steal such pages is many times lower than with ordinary ones. But even if several of these pages are stolen, then not all at once. And the fear of losing good pictures "forever" of many who do not want to spend money on this particular artist will push them to make a choice. Perhaps even in your favor. If you are good.

>>123014
> But, I can assure you all here, that none of the artists whether here on this website or on patreon are worth any money.

Oh yeah. Therefore, you sit here and whine when no one steals new content for you for a long time;)

and now a surprise: artists reading this probably more and more often come to the conclusion that it is better to draw pictures for a narrow circle of honest people who really like the artist's work ... than throwing beads into a crowd of evil RMBs, who, in principle, are not capable of respecting at the cellular level someone else's work, someone else's time and keep their dirty tongue in the most suitable place for this - in their ass;)
But go on, the faster the segregation line goes, the more fun the changes in this market will be. And more changes - more anal pain in RMB. And this is fun. So I totally approve! ;)


>>123882
> Those types are called asskissers and they bend the fuck over backwards because they seriously think Master will reward them with "special treatment" in return for their "loyalty."

you use this concept in vain, it only works in your world of dark basements. Sometimes people just have their own opinion and do not need additional encouragement to spit on the vile mug of a scoundrel, a liar and a dumbass;) It's just pleasant as a process, without any additional rewards;)

>>123882
> I also think it's pretty weird for people to claim something isn't worth it, but then they go out of their way to steal it.

this is called auto-training. When an ugly person stands in front of a mirror, cries, closes his eyes and says to himself a thousand times "I'm not a freak, I'm not a freak ... I'm the most beautiful!" Some of the flawed and underdeveloped from repeated repetitions of any nonsense sometimes begin to seriously believe in it. And from the outside it's pretty damn funny.
Well, and there is also some resemblance to an offended child who, having not received what he wants, publicly declares that "well, I didn't really want to!"

> Well, considering the fact it's hidden on Paytreon, wouldn't being able to checking it out offsite (FOR FREE) so you can decide on your own terms if you really want to make a monthly commitment for it, be a good idea?

typical attempts at childish manipulation. It may work on RMB's grandmother, but not in adulthood. "let me eat this whole cake so I can decide if I want to buy it" (tm)
This cretin probably considers himself the smartest in this world and sincerely wonders why he cannot deceive anyone;)

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Hypocritical and utterly nonsensical yet appropriately acne ridden smiley spamming resident of mothers basement (fedora boy) detected. :)))((()))

>>122931

> Send out different passwords to different emails. You'll know who leaked your pics.

what nonsense. Any imbecile like w7 can unpack the archive, then pack it again or publish it simply as a JPG without any passwords. The password only creates additional inconvenience for the honest reader, but never protects against a thief.

> I'd prefer Paytreon-fagging stopped all together in favor of the original donation scheme

I also preferred a lot. For example, so that all hypocrites and fools go to hell ahead of schedule. But unfortunately life does not work that way;) And desire alone is not enough.

> I would love being able to just release my work publicly and also be capable of getting enough donations to keep doing it. Sadly, it didn't work ... I tried.

of course it doesn't work. You need to have several million people to find a thousand grateful enough to make at least one payment. I know a lot of donationware programmers. Only a couple out of a dozen make significant money. And only if they managed to create something unique and amazing. Everyone else gets even less money than artists, whose work is much easier.
It's just that in this world there is always something that will not give you for free Something that you have to pay for. And this is always more than your money. Therefore, you have to make a choice - buy what you want or pay for what you might and liked ... but got it for free. And it will probably get everything in the future as well for free. Can people be blamed for making cynical choices? You have to be divinely good to live on a pure donate. Especially if you live in an expensive country and not somewhere in Africa.

> Otherwise you might as well be a bum on the street asking for a full course meal for free at the chance that someone else might pay for it.

Believe it or not, "prepaid lunch" is already a frequent occurrence in this world. Someone who feels that he has more money than he needs - pays a little to feel better than he really is. Pays the next person's coffee for example. Or something similar. Probably if this phenomenon becomes widespread, the number of homeless lazy people will increase in the world.
It is for this reason that an ingenious phrase was invented: help the strong, kill the weak. "It is inhumane if applied to everyone indiscriminately. Of course, we must distinguish an idler animal, from just a person whose life collapsed under the yoke of insurmountable troubles, hurricane or war.

>>122931
> ... Or maybe we should go back to the old days and chop off hands. (IS A JOKE, stop being so serious)

why so much neglect? it's a great marker. If you see someone without a hand, then with a high probability you see a thief. This is very pragmatic;) And if someone is without two hands, he will no longer be able to steal with the same efficiency and will be able to earn money for food except in a brothel. Top and bottom hole;)

>>123003
> Once again guys, responding to lecture-mcgee is not worth your time. Ignore him.

dude, your time is basically worthless. Not a cent at all. Simply because you are a useless pile of slime, incapable of making the world around you better, incapable of participating in the development of civilization. All you do is swallow food (the fruits of other people's labor) with one hole and spew crap with the other. Sometimes you create shit without the bottom hole involved. But this is all that you create;) Therefore, no one cares what you waste your time on. Always don't care;)

> Not many people understanding the logic of "Don't feed the troll" ... * sigh *

a real troll eats without asking RMB's opinion on this matter. As soon as you try to look smart, everyone immediately gets ridiculous.


>>123621
> Ya, I have always found it pretty weird and I don't quite understand the motivation behind it. Some people just really like the idea of ​​having something others can't get.

You misunderstand the concept. Someone like collectors of rare stamps, coins, etc. may like it. The value of an item is that only a few or only one have it. In the case of an artist, 99% of them are not so unique and good that this particular motive would work.
A completely different motive works. If a person has a good income, he can spend it. And he spends it with pleasure, if he spends not the last few dollars. He knows that he is rewarding someone for their work. And encourages you to do more and better. Since the majority of those present here are, in principle, devoid of conscience, brain and other qualities that distinguish a person from an animal ... of course, they do not understand such motivation. Rather, it will cause ridicule, because it can be easily stolen - so why pay then?

>>125780
> ust some random thoughts:
If artists really wanted this site down, I wonder why none of them came up with the idea to just simply flood this page with some really inappropriate imagery.

many have probably tried. But few of the artists have enough knowledge to write a special bot, rent several servers, buy a pool of ip addresses in different cities and countries (at least 300-400 thousand), or rent a bot. And then spend tons of resources keeping that system running for months. This is too expensive a pleasure and even the richest artists could hardly have done something like this. Very different methods can be used to destroy this site. For example, regularly push child porno here and immediately run to sneak into the police and various communities. Having made this a tradition for a long time, the artists could force the government of some large country to tenderly take the eggs of the cloudflare, find out all the details and break into the administrator. If you have a brain, you can think of a dozen more subtle and cheap ways to give a shit to someone's soup. But why do this, if thanks to this site the artists themselves can see the work of other artists, which they are not willing to pay? ;))))))))
I suppose everyone who has learned to protect their pictures is happy to use this site. Even DRM holders may be making those anonymous cryptocurrency donations to keep this site from dying. After all, its presence attracts customers to them;) In this world, everything is interconnected. Ecosystem;)

>>125823
> $ 400 we give him per month
> we give him
> we
LAMAOTOPKEK

megalol, yes. It is more likely to believe that this money is given by the owner of some DRM, than that there is a rich RMB who has the opportunity to steal $ 400 from his mom;)

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>>126240
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You're comprehensively rerwiting the definition of "rambling diatribe". Juxtaposing it with "unintelligable gibberish" & "pseudo-philosophical nonsense". Are you on somekind of powerful psychotropics while you write this stuff, or is this how you write/think/talk when sober? Jeez Louise...

>>125881

> Shaming tactics to cover up a bad plan, is still a bad plan. If you constantly have to piss on the tap you are stealing from, don't complain if it taste funny or it starts to run out.

ahahaha, great quote. I'll take this to a couple of artists I know.

> If you genuinely enjoy someone's artwork or appreciate hard work, and you are supposedly that poor or have to steal. At least share positive reviews or upvotes to encourage the creator to make more. It doesn't cost a thing, but it will cost you if you completely sabotage what you enjoy.

he just doesn't have enough brain capacity for that. If it's all shit, how can it smell like roses?


> I actually do this quite often. One of my previous patrons who was one for nearly a year hasn't been able to remain a patron due to the whole world being fucked at the moment, and I share pretty much all the patreon exclusives with him still. Though, I don't know if this is something other artists do, I can only say I do it. But I do have to assume I can't be the only one.

They do. When the artist is convinced that his work is appreciated and loved, he already treats the subscriber differently. Even if he is forced to cancel payments. This is a common occurrence. I know some artists who give "lifetime access" to their work for those who spend more than a certain amount. They usually do not advertise this so that no one buys a "subscription" and then stops payments completely. But there are such artists. Most of them are absolutely not greedy, contrary to how RMB tries to present them. They just want their work to be appreciated. This is the motive of most of the artists I know. I asked them a lot about this.

>>126119
> who wants to play spot the smiley face

you opened the portal to hell again, little ball of shit;)
ass itching again? ;) I brought you your favorite Common Sense Cactus;)

>>126245
Ay bruh. I think you forgot this:
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>>126285
White power murders a white Jewish bloke using the stake of truth! (???)

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