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is this site legal?undoReturn
Anonymous 01/16/20(Thu)13:03:08 No. [R]
Anonymous 01/19/20(Sun)06:58:11 No. [R]
obviously its not lol but good things in life are usually illegal
TheChameleon 01/19/20(Sun)10:42:35 No. [R]
No, we are just stealing content from creators in Patreon.
The content is not protected by Copyright, it's only protected by paywalls.
Anonymous 01/19/20(Sun)12:45:05 No. [R]
The key word is 'not illegal'
Hated by patreon, yep. Which is why they updated their security, now all creators can only be updated if someone is subbed to that artists and tracking to YP.
>implying donors aren't importing content they were given access to
>implying Patreon is a marketplace
TheChameleon 01/20/20(Mon)12:48:21 No. [R]
I'm just trying to say this site is not illegal.
Some people (especially the creators) think we're stealing their content when we're already paying.
Anonymous 01/20/20(Mon)23:15:29 No. [R]
It's probably legal, but it's kinda unethical.
Anonymous 01/20/20(Mon)23:32:25 No. [R]
I mean if you paid for the content, it's legal. You are not stealing, you're just sharing what you paid for.
It's like buying a brand new phone and asking is it illegal to show it around.
Now what artist are doing is like some company saying "hey, we know you paid for this phone, but don't show it to anyone or we are going to throw a tantrum".
Copyright is given automatically to the creator of any photography and digital media https://thelawtog.com/copyright-laws-for-photographers/ https://fstoppers.com/originals/know-your-rights-basics-photographic-copyrights-203294 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/481194/c-notice-201401.pdf
So really no, the site isn't legal. But I don't really give a shit anyway.
Anonymous 01/22/20(Wed)00:14:08 No. [R]
It's a gray area. Some countries? Yes. Other countries? No.
It also depends what gets uploaded. in the first place.
Like a lot of the internet, it's illegal in some ways, and legal in others, although it's more illegal than legal it's often not worth the time and money most people make to shut it down. It's like making a Flash sonic game. Is it illegal? Kinda. Is it going to get shut down? Probably not, at least not unless you piss off the wrong people or get famous enough to anger the wrong people.
Anonymous 01/22/20(Wed)08:01:53 No. [R]
Open source community creates many tools and software which is used by every one . They give their source code and support for free,many people use these tools to make contents and clames copyright for it and what is the logic in that
Anonymous 01/22/20(Wed)08:03:30 No. [R]
If they are using open source resources their final product or content should be also opensource
Anonymous 01/22/20(Wed)09:45:07 No. [R]
It's not illegal. The artist gets paid because someone has to be paying the artist thru Patreon to unlock & update the posts here.
Anonymous 02/05/20(Wed)08:51:36 No. [R]
Reverse engineering is legal in the US
Anonymous 02/08/20(Sat)19:04:08 No. [R]
It's piracy. Piracy is illegal is every modern developed country.
this site is the equivalent of someone paying for Disney+ or Netflix, then downloading that content off that platform somehow, then re-uploading it to a dedicated site specifically for stealing that content. The difference is that Netflix and Disney have billions of dollars and will sent an army of lawyers after you, where Patreon has decided to stay out of it, leaving independent content creators to fight that battle for themselves, which they can't afford.
You can have your opinion on whether or not content creators have a right to put a paywall up for their content, you have a right to think whether or not it's right to have paywalls for creators' content, you can have your opinion on whether or not it's justified to give those creators the middle finger by freely sharing content they charge for, and you can have your opinion on whether or not yiff.party should exist. Whether or not it's morally right.
But the fact is this site is for piracy. It's for pirating content that independent content creators make and charge for. Piracy is illegal.
And looking at https://yiff.party/removals makes it clear that this site doesn't care about the creator at all. This site is more about blackmail of the creators to stop charging for their content. It's the revenge porn site, but against pay-walled content creation instead.
The fact is if these creators knew about this site, and also could afford a decent lawyer, it wouldn't exist anymore, not without employing the same kinds of things that thepiratebay has to do to stay up. There is no valid argument suggesting this site is legal
Anonymous 02/09/20(Sun)05:50:41 No. [R]
> It's piracy. Piracy is illegal is every modern developed country.
This website is hosted in a third world country or whatever, your western BS has no jurisdiction here.
You can try to shut us down, but then again, we are the wikileaks of bad creators.
> Patreon has decided to stay out of it, leaving independent content creators to fight that battle for themselves, which they can't afford.
The problem is that most of the creators here are violating tax law (thots), obscenity laws (thots AND 2D content), or some other regulation.
They avoided the whole issue because they will be sued to death by US, not the other way around, for not conforming to YOUR laws.
> This site is more about blackmail of the creators to stop charging for their content. It's the revenge porn site, but against pay-walled content creation instead.
It is not blackmail when you turn your smut into commodity, you are literally breaking decency in front of YOUR country.
The only way this is valid, is for you to repent of your ways and declare that what you are doing is IMMORAL. coward.
Anonymous 02/09/20(Sun)11:59:13 No. [R]
Your definition of "damges" needs to be updated
It's like saying a bully didnt break your leg, they just called you a useless leech on society that needs to kill themselves, so there's no damages
It's like saying a stalker taking naked photos of you from a window without your consent and jerking off to them hourly is fine. They added content to the world so there's no damages
Anonymous 02/09/20(Sun)13:18:42 No. [R]
Over-exaggerated example, see;
I'm sorry you feel "damges" but the examples you outlined are more reactionary, than logical.
First one: that's more on the bully, they're insecure and you can just go about your day as usual. Why give a shit about what some prick says, on the internet at you, anyway?
Second one: who's stalking whom?
Anonymous 02/09/20(Sun)16:04:11 No. [R]
I BOUGHT something and I want to share it. What law can stop me? This is not piracy, this is called "free will".
It's equivalent of me buying a car and sharing it with someone, or even giving it to them. According to some dumb fucks this is piracy.
Anonymous 02/09/20(Sun)17:33:44 No. [R]
>It's equivalent of me buying a car and sharing it with someone, or even giving it to them.
That's false equivalency. When the primary method of consuming/using what you bought is to OBSERVE it, then what you do by sharing it for public is piracy. Again, not with friends or family: Public.
The primary method of using a car you bought is to drive it, even if you bought the car for showing off. The primary method of using a movie/comic/book you bought is to watch/read it. If you were just holding up the retail copy of this product you own, in order to show the cover art to the public: That would be more analogous with your example. But when your idea of "sharing" is the same as consuming this product, you can't pretend that's not the case.
Anonymous 02/09/20(Sun)18:36:32 No. [R]
Nah, I want to see both the c00mers and th0ts burn in hell, because fuck both of y'all.
Anonymous 02/10/20(Mon)13:56:02 No. [R]
IDK the equivalence seems pretty sound to me, thanks to your post. Be glad Anon didn't try to argue those things were exactly the same.
Anonymous 02/10/20(Mon)16:31:19 No. [R]
I'll just say that without piracy, the world would be fucked in many, many ways. Removing it would control the population by limiting what they consume.
Piracy is a necessity. It doesn't mean that people won't pay for products. They still do despite it existing. It merely provides a necessary freedom and even more importantly - access to people who can't afford all the shit they want.
>You wouldn't pirate a car.
Yes. Yes I fucking would. Piracy is copying. I'd gladly spawn in a new car. The problem is that once you spawn new cars, the car producers start getting fucked, and that means no new cars or research due to lack of money.
Ultimately, moderation is important. if you like an artist - support them. If you just think they're okay or can't afford to - pirate them, perhaps through this site. You won't harm the creators by doing it. Spreading stuff through piracy also leads to increasing its popularity and more potential supporters. I wish i was joking, but it's the truth.
The lagality of the site might be dubious, but anyone who opposes it or piracy in general should be flogged.
Anonymous 02/10/20(Mon)17:04:49 No. [R]
Don't they 3d print cars or something? I know they print guns.
Anonymous 02/10/20(Mon)21:34:43 No. [R]
Aye, but it's not quite the same. For one, you still need materials, meanwhile online piracy has no such requirements. Also you'd still have to use blueprints (free use or otherwise).
Anonymous 02/11/20(Tue)05:50:41 No. [R]
That is a level-headed response, but what about the censorship angle?
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)03:47:22 No. [R]
> The only way this is valid, is for you to repent of your ways and declare that what you are doing is IMMORAL. coward.
LMAO, what are you going to do next? suicide vest them? Jesus Christ you sound like a religious nut job. Get off your moral high horse. You're literally on a site for pirating smut content. You have no moral high ground here you incel.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)03:54:29 No. [R]
Digital content is not the same as physical content. It's fundamentally different because it can be copied and shared infinitely. So the selling of that content comes with different rules, namely that you're not buying ownership of the content, you're buying the permission to access the content. If you buy a physical print from that creator that analogy would work, but digital content simply isn't the same. That's comparing apples to oranges.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)06:02:35 No. [R]
It's funny when a thief doesn't understand what copyright is
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)06:08:12 No. [R]
^I mean this person btw
A person who has the right to copy their works controls who can duplicate a good/service
That's why it's called a copyright. Artists have copyrights. The customer doesn't unless the artist gives them the copyright, which is normally limited or out right restricted
Your argument is like someone walking into the back employee area of Walmart because Walmart let you through the front door. You'd be called a dumbass for that logic
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)06:09:01 No. [R]
By rules I came up with you need to pay me money for work you do. >.< Let's face it artist true deserves money for art, but only for drawing art, so selling art, especially digital art as commodity is not really stable. You never get your work worth and there is competition who sells it. Also sorry I don't need someone's permission to access data on my PC I can do it quite myself. Neither I doubt that that someone pays for my internet or hard drive amortisation. Hmm come to think of it this site deserves actual payment for keeping that content and they have far more fare business model by paying to the keeping server alive/ storage space.
If you personally need advice how not to deal with piracy at all then sell commissions or do croud funding, that's simple. People pay you for do your art you get money for what you payed, or do what you paid for to extend you paid for.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)06:23:52 No. [R]
>Yes. Yes I fucking would. Piracy is copying. I'd gladly spawn in a new car.
Look. "Open-Source everything" is a really just system on paper, and perhaps even in real life. I wish we all had Star Trek replicators to just spawn food and have computers do most of the work for us. Maybe as people that's where we're heading. But we're not there. Yet you seem to exercise your ideals where you can.
And currently, where you can, only hurts the niche creative individuals. Piracy of internet creators will not push you towards your ultimate ideals. It just hinders those who, frankly, wished to be out of the corporate system themselves but require money to afford food, tech and housing.
Maybe piracy is the true ideal but having Patreon creators as your first action of upheaval indicates cowardice than anything else. You do it BECAUSE laws permit it in this instance, despite that you don't like any piracy laws. And in the end it hurts your argument.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)06:44:44 No. [R]
Movies should only be paid for when it's being created, once it's hit theaters you should be able to see it for free
>Also sorry I don't need someone's permission to access data on my PC I can do it quite myself
I'm glad you know how to ctrl c, ctrl v. Surprising this was an issue before the internet. Just because you have something doesn't mean it's yours.
These servers, that site around bad produce nothing, hold illegal content and make money off of other people's work while paying no respect to the work. That's not a fair business model to say the least
>If you personally need advice how not to deal with piracy...
Really solving the world problems there huh. I'm surprised no one has thought of doing commissions or crowd funding before. I wonder why everyone doesn't do that... I guess it'll forever be a mystery
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)06:48:42 No. [R]
Piracy is not a good goal. The goal is a better distribution system.
You don't have to steal anything if it's systematically given to everyone. Piracy can't do that because the creator can't make anything if they're starving
It's time for "the conquest of bread" comrades!!!
But let's be real, people here are lazy coomers that will talk a big game then literally just jerk their dicks off thinking they're doing a good thing when in reality they're just making a gross mess of their lives and others
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)08:28:39 No. [R]
>The goal is a better distribution system
>It's time for "the conquest of bread" comrades!!!
You laugh, but ancomism is unironically a better system than crapitalism.
>Piracy can't do that because the creator can't make anything if they're starving
Piracy doesn't hurt sales, this has been scientifically proven: https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9ndWNlLmVuZ2FkZ2V0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACukzs2ULYSScVldvtLoB8OCXNo2GZrVDpv22tSds3nHHE9rDIeYg4jvOttCsQD_twxus8Xiu5M4Iu5MpSAIRxWVo5bkJX73m4LL5ilBJKUdgdRFkqTpCqcB1IkXlcXM1QM2g0KR6wA7YsYxiNXDazFz3dhoG4M-W3K7AdcU8r8p
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)11:50:02 No. [R]
Says who? I paid for it, so it's mine to do as I please.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)12:02:06 No. [R]
Actually It would be compared to copying fake car, you know thing that looks like a car but not a car. So it the clause is closed. And yes you can(well if you have money) to open a car factory. No one prohibits you to produce cars. In fact long ago the technology of producing a car was quite open, because no one sold something that is not a commodity as commodity.
Piracy is not ideal it is just is. As part of the system and would be. Because historically Piracy are just capitalists that produced copies of digital or (analogue???) production better than others. They appeared part of so loved market and overgrown it. Reason - well, technology. Costs of selling copy is marginal. So now you have what you have. It is not perfect it is just is.
I know Russia experimented with 3D printing jet engines. But again... It hardly matters look above.
Actually requires. Setting up servers acquiring raw material and copies. Just cost is marginal. Which you can thank technology. At 18th century making a copy of art was worth as much as acquire new art.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)12:15:04 No. [R]
Oh so you want to own my PC, and my Hard drive. Have you payed for its ammortisation? or maybe for internet. Or maybe... Well I guess I could pay the costs, and you for my work copying it from third party server not hard, I could pay several times fold, and so there would be no problem I would pay you in same curency I acquired it. I.E. Copies of images. How many copies you need. 1k, 10k, several billion you know It might be quite possible to setup even bot and do it until you would say enough, I even neglect my work costs. But then again Do you know Indian folk tale I think it was called Golden Atnillope. There was Shah who thought all gold in kingdom belongs to him. But then again would you pay me or other users for their work of downloading it, pay partials of exploitation of the mechanical things. ( I doubt it). So don't demand others to pay for their work.)
This site produces service, better cheaper for most artists, aren't consumers supposed to find most profitable and best products(you know part of market competition, you act like petite monopolist ;) ). Well they produce copies cheaper than most artists selling art as commodity for sure. Not more illegal than any of them, unless art is equates to drug, explosives or weapon production. Then sure then why you make illegal things in first place.
To be fair Artists shold be payed for work. And it is far more than price they ask for copy, hence why I propose to take commissions or croudfund(Aka you want me to draw, then pay me so I could do it.) it works and it works well for many artists who actually care to treat their art as work(even if they draw something of their own).Or find other job you have more talent for, sadly it is easier said than done, but only option in short term or without more radical ways.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)12:27:14 No. [R]
Piracy is is not a goal. Yup it just was born from capitalism and part of it. Does it hurts artists. Well to be fair a little bit, but hardly significant as ones who can afford buying would buy art, especially if want to support a good person, we are not at this point of confrontation yet. But it is part ofcapitalism and was born from it. So what you can do... nothing. Piracy is just part of larger system built into it and materially it hurts really less than the system perpetuating it. I guess you understand why that system should go. And welcome to the billions of other people who got hurt by system that birthed piracy.
I would open you a secret, majority of visitors on this site just do not care. Apart from crusaders, whos subculture behavior of such artists is hurting. Well I can do about it as much as with desire of certain people to put a price tag on everything that is not even a commodity, and then questioning why everything is failing. If you still questioning why, you probably should study history of the furry community, it is not a lot to study just 25-21 years of new history, and maybe you understand why they are doing it.
And true producing art should be paid or recompensed to artist in some way provided it is worth for someone willing you to do it.It is way more than artist takes for copy, so it doesn't looks like a good way to earn for living. You either get not enough to be paid for work and necessarry goods to keep drawing, or just rip off your customers who pay you. I wouldn't argue with that.
Anonymous 02/12/20(Wed)14:17:53 No. [R]
How the fuck does capitalism keep getting thrown into these arguments? That was never the original question. I don't see why these mega virgins feel the need to shoehorn this into everything.
Anonymous 02/13/20(Thu)07:39:36 No. [R]
Anonymous 02/13/20(Thu)12:14:40 No. [R]
Copyright infringement isn't illegal. It's mostly a civil matter that requires the copyright owner to file a lawsuit and prove that their copyright is being infringed upon. It's a constant battle with no hard rules as fair use and arguments regarding a work being transformative evolve. In Sweden, people can copy and share works so long as there is no financial gain (this is what ultimately done in The Pirate Bay). For most cases of copyright infringement to become criminal, it needs to be wilful and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain.
In Japan, artists are constantly committing copyright infringement with their fanzines and fanart and selling these works for private financial gain, and this is tolerated by most copyright holders because of the unique environment over there. However, there was a case where Nintendo went after Japanese artists dealing in erotic materials involving their characters (i.e. Blue and Red double-teaming Pikachu's orifices), which surprises me that Nintendo has yet to go after all of the Western artists committing the same thing yet (if you're a Western artist, I highly urge you to stop tickling Nintendo's sleeping tiger).
This is why Patreon cannot go after Yiff Party; they're not the copyright holder, and what Yiff Party is doing isn't illegal, so the police cannot automatically step in and arrest the site owner. One of the infringed parties will have to go through international courts to prove damages to get anything done. Such a thing is time-consuming and expensive. However, what content creators can do is side-step the courts and follow the same example that has turned Youtube into a hell-hole by contacting Google and other services to 'hide' Yiff Party from search results and stuff to ensure that less people are able to discover their works being freely distributed.
Anonymous 02/13/20(Thu)12:35:39 No. [R]
No wonder people keep saying copyright is "mostly a gray area". Like, I get it, completely. But damn, that's a lot of bs to go through just because of some selfish paranoia. :/
Anonymous 02/13/20(Thu)20:04:07 No. [R]
>However, there was a case where Nintendo went after Japanese artists dealing in erotic materials involving their characters
That was 22 years ago and japs have kept making Pokemon porn by the hundreds of thousands ever since, it's one of the most popular tags on Pixiv, too.
>Which surprises me that Nintendo has yet to go after all of the Western artists committing the same thing yet
But they do? Western artists are the ONLY artists Nintendo goes for since 2 decades ago. Where have you been?
Jesus how did you manage to fuck up so badly and get everything backwards?
Anonymous 02/13/20(Thu)23:23:05 No. [R]
I can see that people defending patreon are calling upon "copyright". First of all, as the name suggests "COPY-right", has different purpose. It's to prevent people from, for example, stealing characters and calling them their own. It literally has nothing to do with piracy.
Now before you say "B...but it determines how and when to share it" No. Countries don't have same regulations and even moral standpoints are different.
Now my question is, if you are such a morally good person, what have you got to say about ARTISTS making money of drawing characters that are copyrighted by some company or a person? You do realize that this IS piracy in a form and is literally infringing copyright.
As for car comparison, if you claim "it's different, physical vs digital" how about games? Sharing games is not piracy. Steam literally enables you to share games. For games, it's very hard to debate if it's piracy or not, but for pictures, posting them online is NOT piracy.
Anon said that pictures are supposed to be looked at, I agree with that too, hence this just gives me 100% proof that this cannot be piracy. If I can't use it, can't earn money off from it, but just can watch it, what is pirate-ish there?
And I already know what that anon will say "But you watch movies too", but movies are entertaining and give you about 1-2 even 3+ hours of enjoyment and take huge amounts of money to make. When a picture can make me enjoy it for 3 hours and it costs some money to make, then you can start CONSIDERING to talk about piracy and pictures, especially ones coming from PATREON which is not marketplace (even though WE PAY for pictures from it, but in the end we can't even share it?).
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)01:18:00 No. [R]
>And currently, where you can, only hurts the niche creative individuals.
It helps the poor. It helps deal with shitty companies. It helps spread knowledge. It helps keep the internet a good place.
Perhaps it doesn't even hurt anyone. I'm not willing to believe 'scientifically proven' anon's thing blindly, but I do know that piracy usually isn't as bad as people make it out to be.
It's not perfect, there are bad sides, but if the niche creators want to stop piracy so they can profit more - boo hoo, get off your high horse. It's not all about you.
Artists prosper from supporters, not customers. Popular ones who have large-enough followings are able to paywall their consumers, but this was never the standard, just something they could get away with. If one makes profit by locking things off, they'll be hated even if they succeed (and success in this model needs an existing following, keep that in mind, i'll come back to it later). If one provides content and asks for money, they'll always be in a good light, meanwhile.
>But you can't succeed like that!
The world isn't black and white. This is where samples, PSDs, early releases, comissions, sfw/nsfw versions, etc, comes in. Art might not have trial versions like games or software, but there are many ways to still give to your supporters while making reasonable income.
Ok, back to that point in brackets. Like I said, only artists who have a large following can afford to not provide content for non-payers. These are the same artists that are shitting themselves in rage about piracy - these same artists have started out far more humble & reasonable before they got big. Power corrupts. If piracy stops existing, they get to earn more money from RESTRICTION. They don't need more followers, they need existing ones to pay more, which includes people who pirate. Even in the fucking furry artist community, this is a scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)01:50:36 No. [R]
You're spitting out points that I've been trying to make since I first started commenting here. It amazes me how much copyright infringement, artist are willing to overlook, and even act like they aren't outright committing the exact same crime they falsely accuse us of committing.
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)09:13:25 No. [R]
> That was 22 years ago and japs have kept making Pokemon porn by the hundreds of thousands ever since, it's one of the most popular tags on Pixiv, too.
If it is a parody, i.e. goes under fair use, you can't do anything. the issue is you cannot profit from fair use goods.
If B copies from A without permission, and C dumps content of B into YP or Kemono, then both B and C are committing copyright infringement.
Then the only solution for B to not get sued, is for B to declare his art under fair use, which would mean A can't do anything, and what C did is fair game.
And from the basic logic, if X creates obscenity (i.e. things that are "too lewd") and then Y shares it on YP or Kemono, then X is not protected under the law.
Technically X can use the internet as a way of avoiding his Miller-test-breaking fetishes by using international borders, BUT X has no rights to sue Y, EVER.
All are good responses.
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)09:29:59 No. [R]
Yeah I forgot to elaborate on the "Miller test":
The Miller test was developed in the 1973 case Miller v. California It has three parts:
- Whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,
- Whether the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law,
- Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.
Chief Justice Warren E. Burger, writing for the majority, included the following definitions of what may be "patently offensive":
- Representations or descriptions of ultimate sex acts normal or perverted, actual or simulated.
- Representations or descriptions of masturbation, excretory functions, and lewd exhibitions of the genitals.
So basically anything "lewd" and "titillating" that you cannot sell in an art gallery or a book fair, or act as either scientific research or political commentary.
Anon 02/14/20(Fri)10:12:20 No. [R]
children children - its never ok. It is illegal. by re-posting it you are making a digital copy of the work, this is the illegal bit. And if creators can work out which patreon is doing it they can sue them for loss of earnings damages.
This post really shows how you guys are trying to legitimise something you dont understand
TheChameleon 01/20/20(Mon)12:48:21 No.56681[R]
I'm just trying to say this site is not illegal.
Some people (especially the creators) think we're stealing their content when we're already paying.
Yes you are paying - but then you give the content to the rest of that creators clients for free - can you not see the problem?
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)12:29:01 No. [R]
I just typed up a whole reply, then deleted it because I thought I misread you, then realized, no, this person's just an idiot. Learn how to fucking greentext before you go calling us all children. Anyway:
That is how not to win an argument. In fact, this pompous attitude, you have is one of the reasons people hate patreon artists. They look at there "clients" like children and living banks, and therefore, treat them as such. This is exactly what we are fighting against.
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)15:24:07 No. [R]
jap artists do profit from pokemon porn by selling doujins or paywalling illustrations on fanbox/fantia/enty etc.
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)19:44:18 No. [R]
In a normal world paying for something results in you owning that which you have paid for. Go live in your fantasy if you don't like it.
So if I pay for a photo, I own it. End of story. If you want to question morals then question your own first, because you're obviously without a moral here. You want to make money? Sure, nobody is preventing you from doing so. I've read here before that this site actually helps and I agree with that. Basically, because of this site, you always have at least one paying "customer" (hah, you can't be a customer if you don't own what you buy) and this site works for promotion.
Most artists are "just looking for support", but when people decide if the want to support or not "MuH Yiff.Party ruining me".
What you guys are doing is a scam, but too bad for you most people aren't dumb to be scammed that way nor do laws go in your favor, in fact as I've stated before, they go AGAINST you. If you sue anyone for *cough* "stealing" your art or whatever you do, you will be in trouble. Why?
Well for one, you're probably porn artist, you made multiple copyright infringements, and laws of most countries in the world don't say anything about forbidden sharing of stuff that YOU OWN BY BUYING IT OR CREATING IT.
Anonymous 02/14/20(Fri)21:41:40 No. [R]
Which Nintendo can, by law, slam them at any time... It is just that they don't care, and we can leak their stuff too... And Nintendo don't care either... Until they do and take the whole lot out.
Anonymous 02/15/20(Sat)03:06:51 No. [R]
That's not what we were talking about though. The original post claimed that Nintendo didn't go for western artists which is the opposite of the truth, they don't go for japs but do go for westerners.
Anonymous 02/15/20(Sat)03:10:15 No. [R]
Why do the japanese seem to absolute adore drawing cute girls getting railed by the ugliest and fattest motherfuckers on the planet?
Anonymous 02/15/20(Sat)04:51:37 No. [R]
You think that's bad? Have a look at this:
Anonymous 02/15/20(Sat)05:14:17 No. [R]
I mean that's literally a pigman, and he seems fine other than his face. I've seen ugly bastards that look 10x worse.
Anonymous 02/15/20(Sat)13:37:05 No. [R]
Try kunaboto or KDC. Teikoku Kizoku does this as well sometimes.
Anonymous 02/15/20(Sat)18:02:48 No. [R]
That's a myth. Only a small percentage of hentai watchers are ugly bastards - this is just conclusive because only a small percentage of people in general are ugly bastards, but it still applies. If there was a reason for it, i'd say it had to do more with humiliating the girls. Most people don't like to look at ugly people, male or female, but humiliation is a pretty big fetish, and fucking an ugly guy is humiliating.
That's my theory, anyway.
Anonymus 02/16/20(Sun)09:45:26 No. [R]
What do you think sunshine?
Anonymous 02/18/20(Tue)22:36:52 No. [R]
How goods/services are distributed will bring up the topic of capitalism since that's the way we primarily distribute things right now
If you pay for a massage you don't own the masseuse
If you pay for a ticket you don't own the movie theater
If you pay for food you don't own the recipe
I'm going to assume you're the anon going to other threads saying the thing about "if artist infringe on copyright then we can too" implying that **ALL** artist do this when that's not true at all. There are creators on this site with only original works and characters who are still stolen from
Making creators into a monolith just makes you look like a dumbass
Also most countries have regulations on selling and buying stuff because otherwise markets fail otherwise.
Anonymous 02/18/20(Tue)22:39:14 No. [R]
Just to be real clear, you can draw dick fucking pussy and not have it infringe copyright
Lots of artist do that. Lots of artist don't do that.
EVEN IF EVERY ARTIST DID DO THIS, stealing someone else work is still wrong. This is like when people say Trump is bad and the rebuttal is "obama was bad too"
Like great, they both have to repent. What's your point?
Anonymous 02/18/20(Tue)22:42:18 No. [R]
Btw, it would be good if yiff.party stop uploading drawn CP to this site
You guys are suppose to be pirates not wannabe child fuckers
Anonymous 02/19/20(Wed)02:39:57 No. [R]
Lewds are not protected by copyright due to it being frowned upon by the law, so it is basically fair game for us to do whatever. We are dealing with a black market here.
Anonymous 02/19/20(Wed)02:43:35 No. [R]
You are right. Even though it is not ethically wrong...
"Section 1466A of Title 18, United State Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and are deemed obscene."
But remember, the related laws around this ALSO banned all the other fetishes that YP contains, so that is a moot point.
Anonymous 02/19/20(Wed)02:45:29 No. [R]
For reference this is the "Dost test".
- Whether the focal point of the visual depiction is on the child's genitalia or pubic area.
- Whether the setting of the visual depiction is sexually suggestive, i.e., in a place or pose generally associated with sexual activity.
- Whether the child is depicted in an unnatural pose, or in inappropriate attire, considering the age of the child.
- Whether the child is fully or partially clothed, or nude.
- Whether the visual depiction suggests sexual coyness or a willingness to engage in sexual activity.
- Whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer.
Anonymous 02/19/20(Wed)13:58:17 No. [R]
Anonymous 02/19/20(Wed)17:24:10 No. [R]
Black market politics, friend. Same goes for all the other kinks and copyright infringing content as well (if you really want to go that route).
Just offshore all the content to a poor country that allows it, and just strip some of the stuff WE deem unfit.
Anonymous 02/19/20(Wed)19:33:44 No. [R]
Hard drives in Russia lol because they don't care about anything 'P or something like that.
Anonymous 02/20/20(Thu)06:12:12 No. [R]
Anonymous 02/20/20(Thu)13:58:11 No. [R]
The world should ban violent videogames too since they create murderers, right?
Both of the things that you said are factually wrong. Did not expect better from a namefag.
Anonymous 02/21/20(Fri)08:57:52 No. [R]
A careful consideration about how one uses violence in media sure. Violent media doesn't inherently make violent people but last time I looked at american culture it sure does produce a lot of shooters
Also some presidents and leaders of industry are exposed pedophiles so maybe it's something we shouldn't turn a blind eye to
Epstein didn't kill himself
Anonymous 02/21/20(Fri)09:02:53 No. [R]
Just to be clear, getting rid of drawn CP will not stop people from becoming pedos, but it will reduce the amount of pedos floating around on this site which seems like a good thing
Unless you want to defend the argument that Pedos should hang around on this site with all you pirates. You all can be PPs
Anonymous 02/21/20(Fri)17:25:58 No. [R]
> Violent media doesn't inherently make violent people but last time I looked at american culture it sure does produce a lot of shooters
That's not an argument for fictional things influencing people. Shooters are mentally ill you know.
>Also some presidents and leaders of industry are exposed pedophiles so maybe it's something we shouldn't turn a blind eye to
What in the goddamn shit does that have to do with anything?
Anonymous 02/21/20(Fri)17:29:37 No. [R]
>I don't like this fetish ergo all those people should leave
Cool. I don't like scat so we should ban all that content too I guess.
Dude, how new are you?
Anonymous 02/24/20(Mon)17:11:56 No. [R]
Not sure, but I do know that a vast majority of these artists aren't paying the companies that own the IPs they're profiting off of. It's why Nintendo-based stuff gets Patreons snuffed out: because they actually give a shit when they find out someone's profiting off their stuff.
So fair's fair, in my eyes. They rip off the big guys, and I see it without paying for their copyright infringement.
Anonymous 02/24/20(Mon)17:48:23 No. [R]
Why do you excuse big companies? You have been sold off by years of consumption. And now you defend them for free. Well done, slave.
Anonymous 02/24/20(Mon)19:55:28 No. [R]
Who said I excused big companies? Sounds like you're projecting your own issues onto me.
Anonymous 02/25/20(Tue)06:17:29 No. [R]
Anonymous 02/25/20(Tue)08:43:21 No. [R]
I want to believe you're being stupid on purpose to piss me off.
Anonymous 02/25/20(Tue)13:28:01 No. [R]
They are. They aren't serious about anything. Notice the fact they're the only species of troglodyte to use "hahahaha" as an insult.
Anonymous 02/25/20(Tue)20:08:11 No. [R]
If you pay for a massage you don't own the masseuse
If you pay for a ticket you don't own the movie theater
If you pay for food you don't own the recipe
Are you joking? What kind of comparisons are this? I never said if I pay for art, I own the artist, I said I own that picture I paid for. What kind of logic does apply in your world?
Anonymous 02/26/20(Wed)07:59:19 No. [R]
Piracy is simply the will of the people put into action by technology.
The people say they don't want hostile paywalls, don't want DRM or stenography pozzing, don't want to use shitty services like Patreon, don't want to pay for fanart of licensed properties, and don't want art to be lost forever because of stupidity from Patreon or the artist.
All you need to do to beat yiff.party is be better than it.
Anonymous 03/04/20(Wed)08:02:25 No. [R]
forgot to put "don't want to pay for trashfire-tier "art"" in your post.
anon 03/04/20(Wed)20:07:38 No. [R]
a better quest: what is the website owner doing with this information? And is it being used to fund the promotion of child pornography?
Anonymous 03/04/20(Wed)20:24:56 No. [R]
The main target is degenerate sexual fetishes in general (see: Furries)
Cunt 03/04/20(Wed)21:12:17 No. [R]
Anonymous 03/04/20(Wed)21:14:40 No. [R]
Anonymous 03/04/20(Wed)21:30:07 No. [R]
This site is mainly targeting 2D content, and the thot stuff is just spam that we can trim off of anytime we want.
Anonymous 04/01/20(Wed)00:54:17 No. [R]
Stop stealing people's content!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous 04/01/20(Wed)01:03:36 No. [R]
The people that think they own someone's content because they pay for it are out of their minds! What's wrong with you?! YOU ARE STEALING SOMEONE'S WORK AND PROFITING OFF OF IT.
Anonymous 04/01/20(Wed)03:07:33 No. [R]
To be perfectly fair, almost all the content here was paid for at one point, we're just redistributing it.
If I buy an apple, it's my apple. I'm allowed to transfer ownership of it to whoever I want. Just because digital media is endlessly copyable doesn't entitle someone to claim ownership over something after we made a mutual exchange. After I pay for the apple, it's my apple, you're not entitled to tell me what I can do with it or whether or not I can eat it after it leaves your possession after a mutual exchange.
>YOU ARE STEALING SOMEONE'S WORK AND PROFITING OFF OF IT
Yiff.party is a non-profit organization, thank you.
Anonymous 04/01/20(Wed)05:55:13 No. [R]
Anonymous 04/01/20(Wed)07:35:55 No. [R]
Pirates don't fucking care m8, we all love some free stuff , deal with it
piracy can come as free promotion if the shit is good
Yes that's how psysical things work, make note of "(((((transfer ownership)))))" you fucking said it yourself retard
>"leaves your possession"
> "eat it"
> (((digital btw)))
KEK that comparison
Rational people ? yea they exist ,it's a rare sight on the internet but they do exist
nice coping mechanism you got there.
Anonymous 04/02/20(Thu)03:15:19 No. [R]
>Being THIS mad
They sold me an image, it left their possession and is now mine. I endlessly consume it. Again, being endlessly copyable is not a factor here. If I buy a tree that endlessly grows apples, you are not entitled to tell me what I can or can't do with it. Your feelings don't matter.
Anonymous 04/02/20(Thu)09:34:33 No. [R]
Anti-Yiff 04/02/20(Thu)13:55:02 No. [R]
Its a dangerous and illegal site!! Heres a beastiality porn that is forbidden in USA laws and Europe laws. Yiff = furry porn = beastiality
Anonymous 04/03/20(Fri)06:17:22 No. [R]
Yes if you live in a Shithole
Anonymous 04/03/20(Fri)07:37:53 No. [R]
>Being THIS clueless on digital piracy
>"They sold me an image, (((( it left their possession ))))"
It didn't ∅brain , what you download/save is just a copy of the creators work , you didn't yoinked or bought the original image
>"Again, being endlessly copyable is not a factor here."
It is if it's digital and that's the fucking topic on this thread
>"If I buy a tree that endlessly grows apples, you are not entitled to tell me what I can or can't do with it. Your feelings don't matter."
you dumb hoe, (((( DIGITAL )))) for the last time , by your logic with this comparison , go buy ONE bread and try feeding the entire world with it , I won't stop you... I will laugh at you ... Your feelings don't matter
Theres other content here too , just ignore the furry if you don't dig it
The admin allowed us to share sum good stuff and made furries mad for taking their exclusive place
Stay in your mental ward anon
Anonymous 04/03/20(Fri)07:53:09 No. [R]
Did anyone donate today?
Anonymous 04/03/20(Fri)13:41:57 No. [R]
Anonymous 04/03/20(Fri)15:51:15 No. [R]
Personally I don't feel the need to try and justify using this site.
I can be rather picky, so for me it is as simple as not wanting to pay money to someone's Patreon for the off chance that the artist will -MAYBE- draw something that does it for me, when I have other options such as this site.
Sure, it sucks for the artist, but Patreon is less than great business model, kinda like one big loot box, as in: "Pay x amount of money to -maybe- get what you want".
That said, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me even if this site did go down under.
Anonymous 04/04/20(Sat)23:22:49 No. [R]
It's mine you stupid faggot. I'll do with it what I want. Your shitposting is ultimately futile, this site isn't going to close just because you want it to.
>le triple parentheses meem xDDDDDD
Back to >>>/pol/ for you, nigger.
>Mad at what
That was a misclick, I'm sorry. Please furgive me <3
>Sure, it sucks for the artist, but Patreon is less than great business model, kinda like one big loot box
>Patreon as a business model
Anonymous 04/05/20(Sun)11:41:20 No. [R]
If you think i want yiff closed , you need to clean your glasses , __point proven__ : didn't use triple parentheses and any other number has a different meaning
Not to mention you fucking faggots really love to politicize everything on the internet, so call (((ADL))) (oh hey look i did it ironically) cause i see you are clearly offended for something that is clearly unrelated.
>"Back to >>>/pol/ for you, nigger."
I clearly see you belong there
Fuck off the internet with your mental ilness kid
Anon >>67571 already called you out
>"your bad reading comprehension"
>calling someone you disagree with ,a shitposter
You are a newfag on top of that
Anonymous 04/06/20(Mon)10:50:21 No. [R]
Finally someone who actually knows something about copyright laws, people on this site are apparently retarded.
Anonymous 04/06/20(Mon)10:51:02 No. [R]
Don't type to me like you type to (((your mother))) faggot
"is this site legal?" ≠ "is this site moral/immoral?"
So the fucking hurrdurr but its muine retards should leave with their fairy tales
Anonymous 04/06/20(Mon)11:48:20 No. [R]
>Finally someone who actually knows something about copyright laws
Yeah, that artists don't get third party IP rights just from posting fanart.
>people on this site are apparently retarded.
Indeed, we have people who willfully misunderstand the relationship between artists and patrons.
Anonymous 04/06/20(Mon)15:18:43 No. [R]
Yeah the retards do not get that:
1. copyright lies in the holder of the original, not the fanart, only exception is fair use which bans fanart revenue
2. Patreon is not a contract to content, otherwise people would get taxed and jailed for copyright infringement or...
3. Most of the degenerate content is a violation of obscenity laws, they will go after the artists first, but...
4. YP servers are outside of legal bounds of most copyright states so it is an international safe harbour
5. And if you think thots can get away with it, either sex trafficking or #thotaudits can get them easy
Anonymous 04/06/20(Mon)20:46:39 No. [R]
Anonymous 04/07/20(Tue)16:28:39 No. [R]
this site is for scumbags who believe art is not a real job and all art should be free. SCumbags who are too cheap to fork over a dollar. Being an artist who has their content stolen on this scumbag site, I got nothing but hate for this trashhole.
Anonymous 04/07/20(Tue)21:43:40 No. [R]
>>68348 ))))))))) >>>/hell/
calm down nazi zoomer
Anonymous 04/08/20(Wed)05:46:06 No. [R]
>this site is for scumbags who believe art is not a real job
Based on what?
>and all art should be free.
Based on what?
>SCumbags who are too cheap to fork over a dollar.
Based on what?
>Being an artist who has their content stolen on this scumbag site
I'm paying for your art, so how was it stolen in the first place?
Anonymous 04/08/20(Wed)09:17:28 No. [R]
WHO THE FUCK CARES
Just enjoy the free porn while it lasts and move on with your day.
Anonymous 04/09/20(Thu)23:16:22 No. [R]
File sharing doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)12:40:29 No. [R]
Is this site illegal? Hell yeah it is. Paying for content is legal. The illegal part is sharing it. What some of you guys attempt to claim here is like claiming that sharing Netflix content is totally legal.... Good luck not getting your ass sued.
I'm not hating on this website. But some of the comments here are beyond ridiculous. Like how one guy attempted to claim that this is okay, because of "morale laws", because he's sharing thot content. WTF are you even talking about? The US has literally the biggest porn industry in the world what morale laws are you talking about? Ironically this will be the same guy jerking off to that stuff lol.
This is just as okay as any other torrent you download.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)16:25:25 No. [R]
I would agree with this. I doubt hosting the stuff is against the law. Downloading it from here might be a legal grey area tho.
But what judge is going to take a pornography pirating suit seriously? This is why Jeremy Bernal is a laughing stock in the furry
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)17:10:30 No. [R]
thats why we created this site so we can spit right back in the face of money laundering faggots like you who show nothing but contempt for their consumers 😂😂😂😂😂
Making money on characters which don't belong to you, is it legal? Did the artists asked the authorisation to the original creators if they can make porn pics and sell them?
Jimmy Trivette 05/22/20(Fri)18:53:28 No. [R]
Exactly. The hypocrisy of these Patreon artists is almost beyond belief lol.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)19:49:32 No. [R]
Since when did people have to pay just to SEE art before sites like Patreon came along? I'm not even just talking hentai and SFW hobbyists like ourselves, I'm talking proper, professional art from legendary status artists. You don't pay to go to art galleries and look at world famous art, you don't pay to go to exhibitions, you dont pay to look at art on art community websites. Artists earned money from commissions, work contracts, selling originals & prints etc, they never got a monthly dole just for "being an artist". If you're really so broke you have to sponge monthly payments off people just for the fact "you draw pictures" , then do what most of us HAVE to do at adulthood (including other artists) and get a bloomin job. If you're willing to work (and you will be, if you're skint enough to beg on Patreon) then you can get a factory, warehouse or maybe office job from your local temp agencies in a few days. I've never asked for office work though so I don't know how easy they are to get thru agencies. Don't want to work full-time? Then look for part-time.
I'd never feel morally justified (as a hobby artist myself) charging people tarrifs just to SEE my art. You people draw for the love of money; others draw for the love of drawing.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)20:00:20 No. [R]
This site is absolutely illegal. This isn't like showing someone the phone you bought, it's taking that phone without permission, putting it in a cloner, devaluing the phone in the process, and then giving the original phone back while saying "I just duplicated your data, no harm done".
You do not suddenly own the art (or else they would give you a commercial license), you just have a license to view and save it for personal use. The right to share and sell and distribute still belongs to the creator (but you're welcome to go and pirate the Apple/Android OS and put it on phones you want to sell/distribute and see where that gets you, if you really believe you have bought that right)
It's like someone putting your phone number, email, name, and address on a scat fetish dating site and then posting child porn with that account. Sure, it's "I just duplicated your data, no harm done", but someone has taken something that is not theirs and done damage with it, simply by the act of duplication and distribution.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)20:02:19 No. [R]
So you believe you shouldn't have to pay for books either? Who's going to commission a book then? Not that this probably concerns you overlymuch, since you probably can't read.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)20:53:17 No. [R]
>So you believe you shouldn't have to pay for books either?
Unironically, no. Information should be free.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)20:55:18 No. [R]
Okay, please give me information on your name, address, email, phone number. Also, credit card, ssn, pin number, birth certificate. Please free this information.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)21:36:38 No. [R]
Don't need a strawman. Y'all are legitimately saying: Other people should spend their lives providing me with entertainment for free.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)21:41:28 No. [R]
Artists ain't your parents.
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)22:11:08 No. [R]
Also not to talk about "reaction" patreons, they paywall and make content out of content that doesn't belong to them, and when they are on patreon many don't even follow fair use law, many of them use patreon for their own piracy but thats okay and then they don't like when someone does same to them....
Anonymous 05/22/20(Fri)22:20:33 No. [R]
>other people should contribute to the educational and artistic commons for free (unless explicitly part of a private agreement)
Anonymous 05/23/20(Sat)00:17:20 No. [R]
Anyone who honestly thinks this site is legal is just plain stupid. Of course it isn't. XD That would be like someone going to a torrent site and asking if them downloading movies is legal. No, stop being idiotic. With that said, I am an artist and my art is uploaded here, but meh. I don't really care. I pirate shit all the time too.
Honestly, if they allowed me to as the creator of my patreon page, I would upload my own stuff here. I already tried but it doesn't work sadly.
Anonymous 05/23/20(Sat)00:52:11 No. [R]
Why do you think e621 puts these here?
Anonymous 05/23/20(Sat)04:45:43 No. [R]
I'm not talking about books though am I lol, I'm talking about artwork.
Anonymous 05/23/20(Sat)16:53:05 No. [R]
this autism thread still going, i am not even surprised
The FBI itself 05/23/20(Sat)17:57:20 No. [R]
No, you all go to jail.
Anonymous 05/24/20(Sun)02:41:02 No. [R]
who cares? good things in life are usually illegal