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Zaush is a cub artist and stop defending him

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He has done countless disgusting things and yet people still defend him. I could show the countless pieces of cub art he's made but I'd rather not because its rancid.

And?

I suggest you to inkbunny, and start in the 'a' column of users and start working your way down, fuckhead.

Or is Zaush special because how dare someone draw well and also draw cub?

tl;dr nobody cares, kill yourself.

>>62437
don't care, go die in a pit nigger

Lmao I'm assuming both of you are the same person because of how toxic you are. And no its because they claim their art is size difference and they've also used children in bathing suits as "references" not to even mention the other stuff hes done (: also racism is unnecessary

yeah and? fuck off you absolute cocksucker, if you've got a problem with it, fuck and piss off

You're such a fucking troll that you're scared that you're going to be exposed an absolute dickhole that no one will ever love

I just think its funny the fact that you need to post twice to validate yourself. (:

>>62446
Lmao where di that come from?

>>62449
Dont fuck with me niggggeerrrrr

>>62452
I'm going to because I think its fucking hilarious the fact that people like you still have such out of date opinions

>>62440
>>62449
have sex incel

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Hey, can this thread be used for talking about various artists? I know off-topic threads aren't all that welcome but I've wanted to say this somewhere for ages.
You know JustMeGabeNewell? That guy's art has really eaten shit over the years. I mean damn, it's rare to see an artist actually get WORSE over the years, and by this much.
Here's what his art looked like early on in his career.

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>>62469
And here's what his art looks like now.
His anatomy has gone out the fucking window, his shading makes everything look like it's a balloon and his texturing is nonexistent.
It really saddens me he went this way.

>>62469
Yeah sure lol and I honestly can't even tell that's the same artist, holy fuck

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>>62469
MilesDF is the posted boy for artists going downhill. He used to draw some really nice stuff, and now he charges outrageous prices for completely broken anatomy and colouring that makes everything look some kind of melted wax.

Image attached is a month old.

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This image is eight years old. Same artist.

>Zaush is a cub artist
...and?

>>62437
WON'T SOMEONE *PLEASE* THINK OF THE *FICTIONAL* CHILDREN!

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>>62519
Something else I didn't mention (though you'd probably know if you were familiar with the artist) is how everybody he draws now is fucking obese. Even muscular dudes look like they're made of cream cheese. That said, the most infamous image he drew was this.
Look at this dude.
LOOK AT HIM
WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIS LEGS
At this post JMGN had been drawing fat fucks for so long I think he totally forgot how to draw regular people.
>>62526
Jesus, that image has an uncanny look. You know those AI filtering programs? The ones that you can run an image through to mimic certain art styles? This looks like it was created by one of those.

>>62530
I mean, he used real children in a way... so...
>>62471
and tbh i actually like the new style better, and anatomy doesnt really mean that much when the character itself is literally a blob

The people here defending pedophile who looked at underage swimsuit models for porn and are ok with people saying racial slurs don't care if Zaush is a pedo. At most they honestly can say they're better than the people on patreon who support him because at least they're not paying for his internet search history

Which even here, pirating is bad and you could just not look at his stuff and support other artist ya filthy racist pedo pirates.

>>62547
Excuse me but could you please fuck off? This is a thread discussing how good artists become shite artists and your opinions are no longer needed.

>>62547
>>62528

You guys ever seen Roly's decline? Jeez, the guy went from pretty cool robot art to obese hyper-futa with engorged assholes. A lot of artists tend to get grosser as years go by.
Not to mention that he intentionally made himself fatter for fetish reasons..

>>62563
Yeah why do most good artists go the fucking cuck route? Naylor and Zaush are two of the best and now it's just CUCK CUCK CUCK.

And if they're a decent 3d animator, holy shit they're going to do vore. Every single fucking time.

>>62567
>Yeah why do most good artists go the fucking cuck route?
I hear people say it's for money, but more often than not they draw it of their own accord.
I'm an artist as well, but even I don't get it. I've been drawing for a good 11 years now but I've never decided "Hey, people getting fucking eaten is pretty hot". I don't know where you even have to be mentally to get to that point.

>>62542
Were the children posed naked and abused? Or simply used as a human anatomical reference while clothed to an appropriate level?

>>62547
No one with half a brain cares unless an actual child is abused, stop reaching so hard.

>>62567
How does what they do have anything to do with their overall quality? You not liking the subject does not change the objective quality of their media.

>>62572
It's likely they liked vore the whole time, your fetishes aren't exactly a conscious choice, you just tend to stumble into an idea, and get aroused. You either accept it, or repress it. It's likely they just finally felt confident in posting an image of it after years. That, or they are indifferent, and did it as a commission for the money.

It's ironic that people would talk down to one fetish, while in one themselves that gets talked down to. You two must have a lot of broken glass, and no house left.

Just because your dick gets hard doesn't mean you're mentally aroused. You can choose what you respond to and teach your self to like or dislike something. Most people don't bother and just use their dick as their brain since it aligns 50% of the time, but you can do it. For females the alignment is 30% of the time for their physical arousal triggering their mental arousal.

The reason of the such a large difference is it's far easier for males to notice when they're physically aroused than females. It's a strong feedback loop which females don't have. At least unless they specifically take the time to be more aware of themselves which nearly no one does (males included. How many of have enough control over their pelvic muscles that you can milk your prostate though muscle control alone?).

Why are you guys afraid of drawings? Scared that since your dick gets hard when you look at them that he's somehow making you into a predator? Why aren't you up in arms over that patreon lady on here abusing her kid? Remember her takedown thread? That's real child exploitation.

>>62583
As the goy who posted above you, you're not doing yourself much of a favour, you should have just said the final paragraph, the other stuff makes you sound nuts.

>>62605
>As the goy who posted above you
Oy vey

>>62583
Pedophile doesn't mean predator. Although the community around cub and drawn cp doesn't seem to discourage predator behaviors that hard

>>62555
> This is a thread discussing how good artists become shite artists
Title: Zaush is a cub artist and stop defending him
With the off topic stuff becoming main, seems more like a deflection about the main users for this site are
Stuck in a bubble so long you're fine with pedos, racists, and fascists(the 'Oy vey') floating around your circles which says a lot

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>>62660

>>62437
I think I remember someone acting an awful lot like this before... Oh yeah, that's right!
https://twitter.com/McBittypaws
https://twitter.com/McBittypaws/status/1202653571457503232

Same person? Some random ass overzealous follower? Assuming this is McBittypaws, just shut the fuck up and move on. Simple and easy.

OP I know you miss tumblr but this is really the wrong place for your holier than thou hardon.

OT some artists start to lean into specific things in their styles without realising it and don’t look back at older work to see if they’re picking up a bad habit. I can definitely see that with MilesDF. You can see in the old pic where he started his current shading trend of way overworking a piece. Looks like he sacrificed good sketching too; no amount of nice color can save something you drew wrong. He’s probably the sort who really likes to color but nothing else.

I bet y'all will vote for Biden because you want a role model. You want to grow up to be like the man in power sniffing and groping little girls

For a lot of the artist you listed, they're the ones making bank because they simplified their style. People are more attached to those styles it seems. IMO they're attached to the concepts in the work thus don't require huge amounts of rendering. Simplification comes naturally about due to them focusing on what's important for the artwork and viewer. MilesDF creates good artwork and renders popular characters. MilesDF makes bookoo bucks which indicates that some y'all are both pedophiles and big whinny babies. Impressive.

Your change of topic for the thread was stupid

>>62660
>Title: Zaush is a cub artist and stop defending him
cool story bro

>>62676
>For a lot of the artist you listed, they're the ones making bank
>they're

>>62660
>With the off topic stuff becoming main, seems more like a deflection about the main users for this site
Anon, have you NEVER used an imageboard before? Surely you must have at the very least posted on /b/ a few times as a teenager. This happens constantly, all the time, across all imageboards. It's not some kind of deflection, it's an evolution of the conversation. Threads rarely stick to the topic.
It went like this
>OP says artist is bad
>anon says another artist is bad
>others join in and thread changes direction.
>>62676
>I bet y'all will vote for Biden because you want a role model.
Genuinely what the fuck are you talking about? Stop schizoposting, please.

>>62660
Speak for yourself, I'm perfectly capable of discerning and penalizing actual behaviours that harm children, versus pue fantasy. Your argument is the same as people who insist violent video games make people shoot up schools, and it's full of flaws.

>>62676
Are you on drugs?

>>62611
Such a compelling argument.

>>62555
OP here, this was actually just going to be a thread on how zaush is just a shitty person. Now how they were before (: but it's been converted into other shit artists aswell. I'm ok with that

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Shut the fuck up, jerk off or fuck off.

>>62747
I'll never understand people who enter a topic to say "shut up" like what the hell are you achieving

>>62734
It's a joke, you said "goy" instead of "guy", goy is the Hebrew word for a non-Jewish person

>>62471
"his shading makes everything look like it's a balloon"
No, that's his choice in almost exclusively drawing obese fucks.

>>62735
>>62688
>cool story bro

>>62688
Not sure what you're on about, that was the right use of 'they're' as in, 'they are the ones making bank.' If you're going to be a grammar nazy, you should probably learn the rules first, fuckwit.

>>62676
Lmao why did you have to bring up politics? This is literally just a thread about shitty artist

The people here defending pedophile who looked at underage swimsuit models for porn and are ok with people saying racial slurs don't care if Zaush is a pedo. At most they honestly can say they're better than the people on patreon who support him because at least they're not paying for his internet search history

Which even here, pirating is bad and you could just not look at his stuff and support other artist ya filthy racist pedo pirates.

>>62866
>Zaush
>that was the right use of 'they're'

>>62954
If you still can't understand that "they're" is "they are" and made grammatical sense, you must be retarded. What, do you think "their making bank" would work? Or maybe "there making bank." Or maybe you should try to explain your retardation, but let me preempt you, since you'll probably think I could have used 'you're' instead of your.

>>62935
>Bawww, people are masturbating to drawn characters and saying naughty words!
You know, people would consider you terrible for being attracted to animal features too, you know. And mentally speaking, animals have the same lack of ability to give informed consent for sex in reality. So by your logic that drawn minors is child abuse, all anthros most be beastiality. It doesn't matter that you say they have human intelligence, what they are based on is an animal without such. Therefore you are a zoophile. You see why your broken ass logic doesn't work now?

I don't much care for 'cub' stuff, but even I can see the hypocrisy in bashing someone for a fantasy that would be unacceptable in reality, when you have one that most consider equally as bad.

>>62993
Ah yes the same VERY ORIGINAL argument about how furries are zoophiles for liking ANTHRO art. I think you're getting mixed with feral but alright. Both feral and zaushs attempt at "size difference" are disgusting. Idk man but if you were to ask which is worse to a normie I'm pretty sure they'd always go with cub/zoo shit.

>>63094
Nope, there's no mistakes, my point is very intentional. If basing a fictional character on child-like proportions makes you a child molestor, than basing it on a non-human animal makes you a zoophile. To try and mental gymnastic your way out of that would make you a hypocrite. Get the fuck off your high horse already.

>>63094
no normies think it's pretty gross and your an animal fucker for jacking it to bugs bunny too. not into cub myself but theres a difference between a cartoon and a person. you start acting like cartoons have fealings is when you start treating real people like shit and guess what? that makes you worse than whatever your whining about cuz you hurting real people while a drawing does jack shit to nobody. grow up anon. go outside. figure out reality.

Did Zaush use photo/video of real children being abused in sexual situations as ref? No? Then shut the fuck up up. In order to be a pedo, you have to be into fucking real live human children. Cartoons aren't real. Learn what words mean and spare us from your puritan pearl clutching idiocy.

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TIL: That people are still screeching like banshees over cub art while the majority of people still don't care and think you're a retard.
Go back to twitter and boohoobeeboo there with the rest of the moralfag collective please. Spare us from your useless opinion or better yet, go do something productive instead of wasting it on this board. Nobody is being hurt by a drawing, there's no years of abuse and mental anguish being brought onto a living, thinking individual here.
You wanna go bitch whine and moan do it somewhere else like I said before, on twitter. Where a limitless supply of voices will echo your opinion and you can feel validated and good about yourself for "being right".
In conclusion, Zaush is a good artist, Ted Cruz is the Zodiac killer, and Bush did 9/11 #Cubs4ChubsdotCom #Bounceonmycubsdick

>>62993
>If you still can't understand that "they're" is "they are"

Zaush and who else?

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>>63126
>Retard doesn't understand that they is both singular AND plural.

>>63108
What you're looking for is the difference between child molester, and pedohpile. Sorry to say it, but if you are attracted to underage people, you have pedophilia. However, acting on those wants to abuse children would make you a child molester. It's the difference between being so mad you WANT to murder someone, and ACTUALLY murdering them. Or jacking off to drawings of animals, versus holding your dog down and fucking it. One is a crime that can put you in prison, the other is just going to get you hated.

BEHOLD th longest thread of useless shit to read. Seriously, do you guys have a life, or do you all make a living feeding off of each other's bullshit and hatred as well as trollism towards each other? Yeah... this site has gone to shit. Because threads like this exist with a massive amount of name calling and complaining. And honestly, we're WAY past the "pedophilia" name calling shit as people use that as the new norm for when they don't like a specific porn someone else is viewing. See you shit faces tomorrow for another round of, "Wheel of Stupidity".

>>63221
>Faggot only contributing to the shitstorm is complaining.
At least learn to sage, fucking moron.

>>63221
You must be fuckng new if you think THIS is long.

Part Un: https://yiff.party/bbs/read/33907
Part Deux: https://yiff.party/bbs/read/54711

>>63194
>Zaush
>unspecified gender

>>63221
I swear it's the same dude making all of these posts, either that or some retarded furry

I'm referring to the person I was replying to by the way

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>>63230
>Retard STILL doesn't understand English.
>Confuses unspecified, for unknown.

>>63109
Yikes

>>63109
Also great job using cropped art from a cub artist. You've made your entire point invalid (:

>>63272
>Saying no one gives a shit about drawn stuff.
>You've made your entire point invalid.
>Logic.EXE has stopped working.

>>63315
(: (: (: (: he sure got me good

>>63272
>>63336
>Reading comprehension of a grapefruit.

>>62437
Psst, you might not know this, but art isn't real :^)

>>63260
>Zaush's gender was never specified

Keep telling yourself that.

>Defending
I would hardly call getting free copies of his stuff "defending". If anything I'd say that the cuck artist would appreciate the irony of being cucked out of funds.

>>63361
Psst, you know you could've avoided this thread entirely if you're gonna spew the same argument literally everyone else does (^:

https://ouo.io/W6hf5N

>>63543
Nobody asked for your random ass discord server promo (^:

>>62437
"I could show the countless pieces of cub art he's made but I'd rather not because its rancid."

So... you are disgusted by his cub art yet saved 'countless' pieces of his cub art? Get off your high horse and get out of the pedo closet my dude

>>63377
Are you literally retarded? Or just high? If you call someone a them, it means YOU are not specifying their gender, you uneducated troglodyte.

>>63451
>Everyone is against me, but I'm still in the right!
This is what we call dogma.

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Oh is this a cub art thread now?

One of my favorites to contribute to the thread.

>>63599
>If you call someone a them, it means YOU are not specifying their gender

Did I say otherwise?

>>63607
Ah yeah, I really like this guy's style. I hope this comic continues but I've seen discouraging things about it's progress.

>>63623
>>63377
>>63230

>>63598
You do realize that I saved the shit to prove a point and plus if you wanna see it go on 18chan cub. I found this all out through Twitter. His cub art was leaked. His art is already in a cubish style so I was only further proving my point. Plus if I was a pedophile why would I go through the effort of making this against a cub artist?

>>63660
>>63599
>Are you literally retarded? Or just high?

I'll make this real simple and easy to understand.
If the depiction of immoral acts in fiction causes people to replicate those acts in real life, then the problem isn't limited to just cub porn. One thing I notice a lot, is that moral puritans will disavow things like cub/loli, but be perfectly fine with depictions of rape, incest, theft, or murder. Video games, movies, television - even books and music, to some degree - have all depicted those things, to a much broader audience of people. Yet, there's an outcry over cub/loli? Over niche drawings? We've had full-motion, fully 3D-rendered depictions of various crimes for years, and you think a couple of sketches of fictional characters - characters that aren't even human, in the case of cub - is going too far? Sounds a lot like hypocrisy to me. Sounds a lot like 'This immoral thing is bad, and causes Bad Things™ to happen, but THESE immoral things? The ones I like and enjoy? Now those are fine and harmless.'

Until you're willing to restrict or outright ban access to ALL media that depict unsavory behavior, kindly shut the fuck up about what's 'immoral' or 'harmful to society'.

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>>63752
Ok cool but cub art is depicting minors in sexual acts. You compare crime scenes, movies, reenactments of crimes. You realize those are public entertainment or things that save people's lives. You compare that to cub art. Cub art does nothing for society. Plus again its minors being drawn. You wouldn't even see that at a r rated theater.

Cub art is entertainment and saves people's lives. There's plenty of research which shows providing an outlet relives impulses instead of letting them build up in where the person can't take it anyone and acts out in the real world. By wanting to curb artwork you're actively working to increase real child exploitation.

Just because you don't enjoy cub art doesn't mean it's bad. I don't enjoy football but don't go around trying to get it banned because it injures most players. Some people get a lot of enjoyment out of football just like some get enjoyment out of cub art.

There's plenty of child exploitation in ads and movies, including much of Disney's content and Game of Thrones. Open your eyes.

>>63752
>If the depiction of immoral acts in fiction causes people to replicate those acts in real life, then the problem isn't limited to just cub porn.

That's not how it works. The art doesn't cause people to suddenly become molesters and murderers, etc. They already are, or aren't. Their habits of consuming and producing said art simply reveals their inner tendency. People who aren't pedophiles wouldn't mind if all the cub porn in the world went away, because they're not interested in it.

Immoral people take enjoyment in observing and emulating immoral acts. A regular person may play a violent video game for the challenge because it's a game - the shooty-killy part is just how it works - while a violent person plays it specifically because they get to shoot people dead. That's why you'd search for the next school shooter among people who play violent video games rather than not.

Cub is a kind of special case because there's no real reason for it /except/ to excite the pedophiles and the would-be child-molesters. Other people derive little or no value from it.

Then there's also the "copycat" effect - when there's depictions of crimes in the news, other criminal people get "inspired" and commit copycat murders, copycat terrorist attacks, etc. It's still the same deal: the violence in the media doesn't make people violent - it simply triggers already violent people into action.

Normalizing depictions of child sexuality does the same thing. Pedophiles get bolder and the effect is to nudge some of those who would not molest children into molesting children.

Another effect is the platform effect, where normalizing pedophilic content offers a public platform to pedophiles who start to organize without fear in public under the excuse of "we're just looking, no touching!" - while dealing actual child abuse under the table.

>There's plenty of research which shows providing an outlet relives impulses

There's also plenty of research which shows that consuming child pornography simply maintains and builds up the cognitive distortions that child molesters use to justify themselves and their actions. It's a fantasy world where the children want you to have sex with them, and the point to the pedophile is the suspension of disbelief in order to enjoy their obsessions without guilt or conflicting feelings.

Well, guess what happens when you lock yourself up in such fantasy bubbles?

>>63805
>>63833
>>63839

Yo any of you got that research. I'm looking for some slightly used research, no paint scratches, A/C, cup holder, the works.

I think OP has his/her idea of what "cub" art is mixed up with what is mostly cuckold/orgy art. Because this doesn't look like cub art to me.
https://data.yiff.party/patreon_data/312424/34712263/5221990/rottie-lab-call.png
Note how she refers to "honey" as in her husband. Unless if it's canonically legal to marry someone younger than 18 in his comics/art/universe, the argument is now false.

>>63832
>A regular person may play a violent video game for the challenge because it's a game
>That's why you'd search for the next school shooter among people who play violent video games rather than not.

>>63720
You're probably retarded AND high.

>>63976
>not specifying Zaush's known gender
>You're probably retarded AND high.

>>64059
>Being this retarded.
When YOU use the word THEY/THEM, it means YOU are not specifying someone's gender. This is perfectly accebably use of the English language. Where did you even learn to speak/write English to be THIS bad at it?

>> the violence in the media doesn't make people violent - it simply triggers already violent people into action.

Except it doesn’t. We’ve known that since the 90s at least. Get your data from real sources, not tumblr.

>>63976
>not specifying Zaush's known gender
>>64103
>When YOU use the word THEY/THEM, it means YOU are not specifying someone's gender.
>>63623

>>64234
It's not a requirement of the English language to specify someone's gender if known, idiot.

>>64273
Didn't say otherwise either, but it shows that you know too little about Zaush to have anything meaningful to say about him.

You two should just be put in a cage and given 2x4's to fight out your differences at this rate. Whoever unga bungas the other one wins. For fucks sake, people would probably pay decent money to watch two turboautists fight in a cage over something stupid while sucking down shitty stadium food and beer. Maybe then we could donate that to this website's crowdfunding tip jar and the staff could afford to keep the lights on. Personally, I'm fine with whatever. Except supporting Raid Shadow Legends those scamming thieving cunts. Fuck you Raid Shadow Legends you piece of shit, I want my money or I'm going to take it from you myself.

>>64482
That started getting off-topic. But yeah, screw those assholes sponsoring YouTube channels to make them shove their disgusting mobile ads in our faces as part of the video itself and not actually an ad.

>>64482
He doesn't have anything else to say after >>64383.

>>64383
>you know too little about Zaush to have anything meaningful to say about him.
>>64490
>That started getting off-topic

>>64383
Did your mother drop you on your head as a baby... Repeatedly? You've been harping on the use of 'they're' this whole fucking time. What is your fucking point?

>>64698
>What is your fucking point?
>>64383
>you know too little about Zaush to have anything meaningful to say about him.

>>64845
So you're admitting you had no reason to harp on it then? Good, glad that's out of the way.

>>64912
>you know too little about Zaush to have anything meaningful to say about him.
>>64912
>So you're admitting you had no reason to harp on it then?

Leave it to a druggie to come to that conclusion.

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>>64979

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Normalfags please leave

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>>62437
It's not even real. Stop giving ages and rights to drawings

>>65482
Stay mad, druggie

>>65705
>>65482

This entire thread is stupid its a drawing. who the fuck would care about the "Rights" of a drawing
Here's a P.A. from someone who works fairly closely with the law in the US for the people who think drawings actually DO have human rights. (From the mouth of a judge after he listened to the plaintiff.)
*Drawings do NOT have human rights son, it would be like trying to get someone convicted for molesting a rock or tree. Who ever the hell in their right god damn mind let this case into my courtroom let alone brought the case to me shouldn't have any autonomy nor should they be allowed to make any major decisions in anyone's life. case dismissed. And one more thing, the next time someone brings me a case like this I will have them committed for psychiatric review!*

>>65658
"Stop giving ages to drawings" he literally had a drawing of a middle schooler being fucjed by a teacher. And ok? It's not real, that doesn't mean people should just be ok with it. And also imagine using clown memes lmao.

>>65847
Lmao I never said that they have human rights. Also dont call me son you boomer. All I said is that people should not support this dude for stuff like this and aswell as the other stuff he's done lmao. Nobody asked you to come here and wave around your law degree.

>>64845
>>65826

Feel free to come back when you're ready to get back on topic.

>>65867
https://yiff.party/bbs/read/60780

>>65867
Do not create threads with the intention of starting drama. Do not start witch hunts, and don't dox or organize attacks on anyone.

>>65900
i cant believe i wasted my trippy get

>>65900
Is that why this thread is still here? >>62555

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