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Parable - 109 - HD
Parable - 109 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-26T22:40:09+00:00
Parable - 109 - HD 2020-05-26T22:40:09+00:00close

Yet another instance of me wondering "is that too far" before remembering that ship had already sailed.

Commentary

I accidentally forgot Justin's bowtie a couple strips back, then reduced the number as buttoned buttons on purpose to make it look like I was totally doing a thing on purpose. The nonsense in this comic is mostly because I wanted to restore the outfit, and celebrate it with sparkly star effects.

Also, I wanted to draw it, but do I really need to say that? Yes. Yes, I do, or it looks like I'm trying to deny it, so BAM. Answered my own question.

Anyway, indulgent nonsense almost complete, actual plot to continue soon.

Which is still indulgent, but, you know. Less so.


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User #57720 - 27 May 20 04:01
Is it weird that I actually prefer fully-clothed barber Justin?
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User #2511329 - 27 May 20 04:31
*opens up a... certain tumblr in a new tab and hits refresh every couple hours*
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User #2559602 - 27 May 20 04:46
I love that tumblr. Only reason that I got an account. Too bad a lot of the older content got nuked.
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User #930880 - 26 May 20 23:30
No change blindness here.
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User #4135727 - 27 May 20 04:31
Female barber Justin has nice abs.
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User #833702 - 27 May 20 01:37
*SPITTAKE*
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User #2559602 - 27 May 20 04:45
There's no such thing as too far.
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User #296020 - 26 May 20 23:04
Susan's hair must grow longer again for the sake of the plot, otherwise no advancement according to this
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User #3466246 - 26 May 20 22:46
I saw Justin, read it as "get tail" instead of "get a tail" and had both eyebrows firmly raised before I caught and corrected.
Parable - 108 - HD
Parable - 108 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-23T04:15:03+00:00
Parable - 108 - HD 2020-05-23T04:15:03+00:00close

What? No, I'm not covering for the fact that I forgot the bowtie in the previous strip by making Justin's outfit gradually more revealing. Perish the thought!

Edit - Reworded first panel a bit.

Commentary

Fair warning, I do like this result. And I'd BETTER, because Susan's long hair is the biggest cheat for whenever I don't want to draw Susan's back.

Thing is, recently, there have been times in this storyline when I've wanted to show Susan's back, and I've found myself drawing her hair doing all sorts of nonsense to get out of the way. It's one reason I've considered this option.

And also a scene with Barber Justin, but mostly the "Susan actually does have a back" thing.


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User #758059 - 25 May 20 07:51
I just like to think miss Justin enjoys opening her shirt when people have their back to her, and this time around she only managed to put back one button in time. Of course the thrill has made her too distracted to realize that there's a mirror and Susan has been watching her flaunt it all this time. An occasionally blushing Susan has decided to not point it out and just enjoy the view. Out of politeness, of course.
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User #930880 - 23 May 20 15:16
I like to think of female Justin as Justine.
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User #3563157 - 23 May 20 04:22
I for one choose to believe that Susan has secretly been some sort of all powerful aberration this whole time, and as such has no back.
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User #802428 - 23 May 20 07:29
does that mean her aversion to sexual intimacy is because she instinctively knows she can never be part of the beast with two backs? :P
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User #13221362 - 24 May 20 16:07
Sure she could. It would just require even more intimacy, in a way that few men seem to be up for.
Parable - 107 - HD
Parable - 107 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-22T00:14:52+00:00
Parable - 107 - HD 2020-05-22T00:14:52+00:00close

A fairly late idea I had, in that I only had it a little while after the previous strip was done.

While I've always been aware that hair shapes were the easiest way to tell my characters apart, it didn't quite hit me HOW important prior to the previous strip. Like, yeah, Susan has a different jawline and nose to Ellen, but in the previous strip's first panel, I basically see black haired Ellen.

So yeah, Justin's looking at me, too, in this.

I know of ways I could modify my style to make the face differences stand out more without radically changing how they're supposed to look, and that would be to accentuate the differences more. That's a long term design plan thing, though, not a "let's try that RIGHT NOW" thing.


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User #7131461 - 22 May 20 11:05
No two anime characters are allowed the same haircut.
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User #3466246 - 22 May 20 01:14
Justin speaks for me as well
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User #57720 - 22 May 20 00:44
This style is called "The ten-sided". :)
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User #3704968 - 22 May 20 13:51
So this strip is straining two different fourth walls...
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User #930880 - 22 May 20 03:14
I recall a time that Nanase and Ellen looked alike enough to confuse readers. And if someone went straight from EGS year 1 to the present, they would not recognize Tedd.
Parable - 106 - HD
Parable - 106 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-19T03:10:10+00:00
Parable - 106 - HD 2020-05-19T03:10:10+00:00close

Hair? Hair. Hair hair.

Hair.

Commentary

Indulgence intensifies.


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User #375613 - 22 May 20 01:20
Is there a Karen haircut coming?
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User #168573 - 19 May 20 03:26
More hair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8rOfu_6bQM
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User #3704968 - 21 May 20 10:06
I find it interesting that Hairstylist Fem-Justin is wearing the hairstyle called "the best hair."
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User #248222 - 21 May 20 19:42
That's WHY it's the best hair.
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User #658180 - 19 May 20 03:37
I saw, go for the "Squirrel" cut.
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User #57720 - 19 May 20 03:43
Haha, this got multiple giggles out of me.
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User #3600975 - 19 May 20 03:11
Hair. Hair? There needs to be a Grace hair here somewhere, complete with being weirded out by antennae.
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User #279168 - 19 May 20 04:31
Gimme a Head with Hair. Long Beautiful Hair. Shining, Gleaming, Steaming, Flaxen, Waxen. Give me down to there, hair, shoulder length or longer. Here, Baby, There, Momma, Everywhere, Daddy, Daddy!
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User #2765484 - 19 May 20 12:11
Hear hair!
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User #296020 - 19 May 20 03:12
Looks like Susan doesn't like any of them. She did say she liked the longer hair style at least
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User #61654 - 19 May 20 18:26
On the old dead and recently resurrected game City of Heroes the longest hair styles are "Glam" and "Hard Candy". Glam is a bit wild, rockstar look, Hard Candy is very straight, combed and parted.
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User #332703 - 19 May 20 04:45
Kinda wanna see absurd video game hair. "The Goku" "The completely impossible pigtails." "The Hairgel By the Gallon" "The adds 2d6 of slashing damage!" "The 20 feet of braids!"
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User #332703 - 19 May 20 04:47
"The absurd mohawk!" "The Mr. T reference." "The US Military Standard Haircut #514." "The low polygon haircut from the beta!"
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User #72702 - 19 May 20 05:36
Don't forget the anime Hair Drills.
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User #332703 - 19 May 20 08:42
And the "Villain's hair that was added by DLC but the player probably doesn't know that if they haven't already beat the game, leading to weird juxtipositions later on in cutscenes." Why yes, I've been playing FF14 lately, how can you tell?
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User #219557 - 19 May 20 08:56
Ellen, Elliot, Sarah, Fem-Justin, Diane.
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User #3248065 - 19 May 20 14:56
Gvvb7
Parable - 105 - HD
Parable - 105 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-16T03:53:51+00:00
Parable - 105 - HD 2020-05-16T03:53:51+00:00close

"WHOOPS, my scissors slipped. Now you have UNFLATTERING BANGS!"

Commentary

Look, we're having a sequence with Justin as a magic barber.

There is going to be indulgence and nonsense.


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User #12954751 - 16 May 20 07:05
You realize, of course, that we now need a Sketchbook of this version of Susan?
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User #2511329 - 18 May 20 00:13
Oops, scissors broke, hair's stuck that way
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User #296020 - 16 May 20 03:56
Cute,
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User #221926 - 17 May 20 06:13
lol, makes me think of that episode of Love Hina where Mototko temporarily tries to give up the sword.
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User #157466 - 17 May 20 02:08
I love the double ponytail look here
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User #66072 - 16 May 20 05:40
Not quite up to Entrapta's prehensile hair, but heading in that direction
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User #930880 - 16 May 20 14:42
Maybe she could imitate Tiny Kong.
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User #168573 - 16 May 20 03:56
*Sheesh!* Put some metal tips on those and she'd have a wicked close-range whip weapon.
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User #834347 - 16 May 20 04:27
Her dodging skills would let her dance through the danger...
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User #802428 - 16 May 20 15:31
Your comment reminds of Lelith Hesperax's stupid hair things from 40k. She was so good at using them as weapons, they count as power weapons (which deny armor saves) on the tabletop.
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User #2381784 - 16 May 20 04:29
indulgence and nonsense are my two favorite words in the English language.
Parable - 104 - HD
Parable - 104 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-14T03:03:03+00:00
Parable - 104 - HD 2020-05-14T03:03:03+00:00close

The hottest Susan has ever been.

Commentary

SSSHHH!

I'm having FUN.

And to share that fun...

  1. Reference to Commander Riker growing a beard in season two of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Pretty much a mandatory beard to have with Susan.
  2. Jamie Hyneman's walrus mustache from Mythbusters. And possibly also not on Mythbusters.
  3. Saruman from The Lord Of The Rings. Sauron and Saruman are basically the Sarah and Susan of Middle Earth, name-wise.
  4. A mustache similar to those found on traders in the first first Fable game. The "twader" is in reference to how I remember at least one speaking in the first game.

    Fun fact, I have a speech impediment of my own. Not that one, but I have a lot of trouble making the right "s", "sh", and "th" sounds. I can do it, sure, but if you ever hear me pause slightly before saying "sit", now you know why.
  5. The beard of some guy named Tensaided who runs a video rental shop that somehow persists.

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User #296020 - 14 May 20 03:05
Susan's facial reaction basically sums up how I feel about the concept of her with a beard
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User #13355967 - 14 May 20 04:48
I think the speech thing you have is called a lisp. I don't have one myself, but I've heard about it from others
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User #57395 - 14 May 20 04:05
Is the beard the thing obscurely persisting? Because small-medium video rental shops are still doing fine. There's two very active ones in my neck of the woods (not a large town, not a small town). Lots of obscure stuff that isn't on streaming services, console games that didn't get PC releases or backwards compatibility patches, etc. We're long past the days of the big chains, but the concept of rental shops is still going to be pretty durable for at least some more years: Tensaided has something vaguely resembling job security. :V
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User #279168 - 14 May 20 10:34
I like The Fable Twader
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User #333204 - 14 May 20 03:49
My first thought on Panel 2 was Wilford Brimley - but he didn't have that chin-beard.
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User #930880 - 14 May 20 03:06
Today I was recalling how the weird trio in "Macbeth" (and some imitations thereof) consists of women with literal beards. I never envisioned any of these on them.
Parable - 103 - HD
Parable - 103 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-12T05:36:27+00:00
Parable - 103 - HD 2020-05-12T05:36:27+00:00close

Well, of course.

Commentary

This is about hair, I like this fem-Justin design, I wanted light teasing, and this height difference is easier to work with, so yes. Yes to Justin the barber.

In the context Justin was teasing at, a "beard" would be a man pretending to be Susan's boyfriend to give the entirely false impression that Susan is heterosexual.

Which Justin jokes about here as a play on words and messing with Susan, but it does come from the very unfortunate reality of people wanting, or having, to hide their non-heterosexuality. Which I would love to say was all in the past, but humanity's got a long way to go to reach an enlightened version of itself that several contemporary moms would still write angry letters to editors about.


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User #930880 - 12 May 20 05:38
I hope "whiskers" include the nonhuman type.
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User #13221362 - 12 May 20 16:28
I haven't played Fables, but many of the games I've played with in-game cosmetic change options at a barber shop do include such. So chances seem good, even if Dan opts to not show this, it's true. I just hope for Susan's sake, that Justin said 'whiskers' rather than 'Whiskers'. It'd be frustrating for that to just be a different tag-along NPC. ;)
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User #221926 - 12 May 20 06:45
Hey, that's Justin, isn't it?
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User #2356961 - 12 May 20 08:32
Clearly the designer of this reality feels they have to get what they can out of the investment in making this new character model. ;)
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User #279168 - 12 May 20 06:42
Never heard this terminology before
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User #168573 - 12 May 20 06:29
Haven't heard of the "beard" reference in years... maybe even decades.
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User #13221362 - 12 May 20 16:25
Haven't heard of the "beard" reference in weeks... maybe even months. I wasn't even "hanging around" the sorts of crowds where the term was used (specifically, all of the non-hetero normative people that I officially know are public about it these days), but I've heard the term clearly used in that manner in passing in 2020. To be clear, I don't try to listen in to other people's conversations, but I'm autistic and can't turn off my ears, and I live in a city and ride the subway. (Well, I *did* ride the subway. I don't d that now, of course.)
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egscomics - 12 May 20 16:56
I'm baffled by the very idea of being able to tune out people talking around one's self on demand. I'd love to be able to do that. Best I can manage is headphones that block ambient noise.
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User #930880 - 12 May 20 17:17
Kinda bugs me that we use the same word regardless of gender. The original logic was that a fake girlfriend would make a man seem manlier, like a literal beard. It doesn't work the other way around.
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User #168573 - 12 May 20 18:04
Apple AirPods Pro = _Great_ noise cancelling, better than most over-the-ears headphones I've tried. Easy to turn off if you need to talk to someone. Well worth the price.
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User #13221362 - 14 May 20 20:50
I've seen enough literal beards to know that it doesn't always work that way for literal beards, either.
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User #57720 - 12 May 20 16:45
YESSSSS! More Hot Mom Day-Off Businesswoman Justin! Also LOL at the "beard" joke.
Parable - 102 - HD
Parable - 102 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-09T03:01:00+00:00
Parable - 102 - HD 2020-05-09T03:01:00+00:00close

Yes, the vest had to come of! Because I forgot about it when I sketched her back, and I realized it would be in the way of seeing her back, which meant it had BETRAYED ME!

Commentary

Now, Susan, let's be fair, here.

You probably own several.

No game I've heard of that allows for hair changes mid-game makes you wait to grow your character's hair back, be it on top of their head, or on their face.

Granted, I'm not asking them to. It just gets a bit odd, is all.


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User #5107004 - 9 May 20 03:18
Only game I remember where you wait to grow out face hair is Deadly Premonition
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User #57720 - 9 May 20 04:01
Long-hair Susan is the beautifuls.
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User #296020 - 9 May 20 03:03
Well, if she does get a haiircut, I hope she still has at least long hair still. The important haircut trope is so damn overused in anime that it's obnoxious
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User #2462609 - 11 May 20 00:31
I don't think i mentioned it before but for some reason the quasi Hex got a giggle out of me two chapters ago and again just now. I not sure why tho.
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User #288752 - 9 May 20 05:35
Ark: Survival Evolved you have to wait for your hair to grow back, it also grows out whether you want it to or not unless you trim it regularly. Which can be difficult when scissors wear out after two uses and repairing them (or making them in the first place) requires venturing out to get resources in dinosaur infested wilds.
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User #184349 - 9 May 20 13:04
I suppose it's lucky for Susan that she's been shoved in a fantasy rpg game rather than a sci-fi survival game.
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User #317597 - 9 May 20 03:12
I know of one game that makes you grow your hair before you can style it. Ark: Survival Evolved.
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User #434371 - 9 May 20 21:32
That's the one I'm aware of as well. You start off bald, or at least peach fuzz. But it grows pretty fast, in-game.
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User #930880 - 9 May 20 15:34
Reminds me of the lengthening haircut in "Stardust."
Parable - 101 - HD
Parable - 101 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-07T03:15:38+00:00
Parable - 101 - HD 2020-05-07T03:15:38+00:00close

I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE ON THAT ISLAND O_O

Commentary

This both is and isn't inspired by actual Fable 2 nonsense.

Cosmetic potions (height change, weight change, scar removal, etc.) being exclusively sold on an island that's part of paid DLC? Yes, 100%.

There being FREE DLC? As far as I can recall, no. There were pre-order bonuses if you wanted to dress up like Master Chief or play pub games, which sort of counts? In a way? Because it didn't cost extra, you just had to commit to getting the game early?

It counts enough that this is totally fair parody, in any case. OBVIOUSLY.


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User #504081 - 7 May 20 08:02
Thank goodness. Aside from the fact that I love curvyness and all that I'm also happy that she can't just poof herself to look however because it means that her levels and choices have actual consequences for how she transforms.
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User #448557 - 7 May 20 04:57
I'd LOVE to have a body half as nice as Susan's. I understand this is a matter of her opinion and mine differing, and that's ok, but it still feels like a shame to see someone have something I want and not want it. >.>
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User #96287 - 7 May 20 06:02
Nice use of DLC lol
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User #4433350 - 7 May 20 23:28
Fable 3 still sells a 'complete edition' which contains all the DLC....except it doesn't because the game's servers are down it won't serve the DLC to you.
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User #279168 - 7 May 20 07:17
The second Senran Kagura game had paid DLC that gave you the ability to adjust the breast size of each character, Best DLC. Can't wait for a PS4/PC port.
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User #296020 - 7 May 20 03:22
Susan's figure is lovely, don't take it away so soon
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egscomics - 7 May 20 03:24
She will have to QUEST! Or re-spec. Either/or
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User #168573 - 7 May 20 03:28
The Quest for Spec!
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User #279168 - 7 May 20 07:22
Oh No, She won't be able to get to Paid Dea Elsee island unless she maxes her Lvls... What a shame o(939)o~♫
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User #930880 - 7 May 20 13:09
o(939)o?
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User #57720 - 7 May 20 04:19
LOLLLLLL Susan looks good like this, though. Just give her some intact clothing, and we'll be good.
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User #225071 - 7 May 20 07:30
I wonder what would happen to the minds of users if you coded things like this into a VR game.
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User #61654 - 7 May 20 18:29
I think it would work once as a meme game. "The completely honest video game."
Parable - 100 - HD
Parable - 100 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-05T03:01:00+00:00
Parable - 100 - HD 2020-05-05T03:01:00+00:00close

This all stands up to logic and continues to not be pandering, thank you very much.

Commentary

I was originally going to have Susan drinking more potions in the comic itself, but then it occurred to me that the whole idea here is she's deciding how to distribute generic XP boosts, which would happen after potions were consumed, so... Yeah, that didn't work, exactly.

On the plus side, less drinking on-panel means more Susan faces being visible.


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User #168573 - 5 May 20 04:32
You can tell how powerful a magic user is by the size of her... um... mana storage.
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User #448557 - 5 May 20 03:27
nice muscles and nicer boobs? .....could I get some of those potions, please? >.>
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User #296020 - 5 May 20 03:04
A worthy 100th strip for this series. Susan's figure is fantastic!
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User #317597 - 5 May 20 14:12
I like the innocent sparkle in her eyes on panel three.
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User #930880 - 5 May 20 03:04
Yeah, if you were pandering, it wouldn't be her sleeves getting shredded. Boy, 100. Is this the longest deutero-canonical arc yet?
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User #279168 - 5 May 20 10:05
YUS! 2 more Susan, You Can Do It !
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User #57720 - 5 May 20 03:36
Wow, page 100! Creeping up on Goonmanji 2's record length. Also, SEXY Susan! Though I do hope transformation potions still work, so she doesn't have to become Boobzilla to be a powerful mage.
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User #13221362 - 6 May 20 12:43
I've thought about this, and I feel it makes more sense than you seem to think. It would be natural for her to have applied one level of experience before she really thought about it, but for that level of experience to go where she ultimately decided to focus.
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User #13630324 - 5 May 20 03:44
I LIKE Susan being absurdly tall - as long as she's still in proportion.
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User #504081 - 5 May 20 04:58
Yes! I mean, truly a logical choice captain, I mean Susan.
Parable - 99 - HD
Parable - 99 - HDmore_vert
2020-05-02T16:58:21+00:00
Parable - 99 - HD 2020-05-02T16:58:21+00:00close

No, I didn't go with this skill leveling up because I thought it would be a crowd pleaser.

Though, if I were pandering, it is what I'd go with, so fair accusation, hypothetical individual.

Commentary

It originally said "Level Up!" in the last panel, but then I heard "Power Up!" from the video game Altered Beast in my mind, and the rest was history.

I know it looks like she's just drinking from the same sippy cup potion over and over in this comic, but it is technically more than one. I considered various ways to indicate that the original potion had been used up after the first panel, but there were problems with every option I could think of.

Throwing the bottle away? Aside from not being very environmentally friendly, that's not very video-game-ish, is it? Plus, that littering aspect would have left me feeling compelled to give her a +1 to evil, which would imply a solution to that whole deal I wasn't intending.

Making a new bottle "poof" into her hand? Difficult to convey in a way that wouldn't be confusing except to someone who was already aware of what was happening. In short, it wouldn't have communicated what I wanted in a universal sense.

Have the potion fading away in panels two and four? Same issue as the previous one, really.

Ultimately, the real solution would be MORE PANELS! Which wasn't happening.

EDIT - Immediately got suggestions of having a pile of the sippy cups, which could work, but I don't like it in the context of a video game with an invisible inventory.

Specifically that context. Were I not being a nitpicky stickler for video-game-ishness, it would be the perfect suggestion.


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User #3600975 - 2 May 20 17:00
You could have had the empty cup laying on its side on the bench next to her.
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egscomics - 2 May 20 17:07
Added to commentary - Immediately got suggestion of having a pile of the sippy cups, which could work, but I don't like it in the context of a video game with an invisible inventory.
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egscomics - 2 May 20 17:27
Also added - Specifically that context. Were I not being a nitpicky stickler for video-game-ishness, it would be the perfect suggestion.
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User #425745 - 2 May 20 18:42
Double-fisted drinking?
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User #279168 - 3 May 20 13:49
YAY, Only 4 more of these Power Ups to go before we can move on to the next ones!
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User #8897149 - 2 May 20 23:05
my idea would be: in panel 2 throwing the old one over shoulder, and in panel 3 the spot where it was in 2 becomes a poof symbol (radiating lines like an asterisk without a center) while she drinks like she is doing.
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User #6528079 - 3 May 20 09:50
Stick a number on the bottom of the cup? (e.g. the stack number, which goes down as she drinks them?)
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User #504081 - 2 May 20 19:14
Chug chug chug chug chug! Next page should just be another 4 panel showing her chugging her way the rest of the way to level 5.
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User #459307 - 4 May 20 12:05
So... If Susan takes two more of them, will become an Altered Beast? :)
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User #4403591 - 2 May 20 17:05
Lol im not complaining! Consequently I love the game “omega labyrinth”
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User #296020 - 2 May 20 17:01
Yay, her figure is coming back!
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User #57720 - 2 May 20 22:03
The triumphant return of boobs! :) > Were I not being a nitpicky stickler for video-game-ishness, it would be the perfect suggestion. There are video games that have non-invisible inventories. Red Dead Redemption 2 comes to mind.
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User #534846 - 2 May 20 17:18
Once again I'm reminded of why I want to play this (sadly fictional) game. :)
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User #930880 - 2 May 20 17:01
Guess we should call it "Altered Breast."
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User #61654 - 2 May 20 18:22
Pandering. Works best for visual storytelling. Win-win.
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User #4116926 - 2 May 20 17:19
Oh wow haha, has it really been 99 pages o' this already? : O
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User #825158 - 2 May 20 17:36
... If she ever dies and respawns, it'll have to include a WIIISE FWOM DA GWAVE sound effect.
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I'm not sure this actually needed a forth panel, but I'm not sure what I would have done with the extra panel width of only three panels, either. Ah, well, moving on!

Commentary

That much gold every five minutes in Fable 2 actually would be absurd. That much in an hour of play, however, or all at once after having not played for a while? No problem.

I wasn't originally sure how I was going to explain away not being able to just physically give frozen enemies potions, but slow time acting more like it actually should is pretty much all that's needed, really. It's possible she could manage it with them just moving a bit more slowly, but not reliably, I wouldn't think.

Granted, she could just throw the potions at them, but SSSSH! My logic is FLAWLESS!


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User #142554 - 1 May 20 05:03
Reverse pickpocket in Elder Scrolls forces them to drink the potion for some reason. More fun is Fallout; You pickpocket in a grenade, but not the grenade's pin...
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User #534846 - 30 Apr 20 03:22
I can feel the snark in that last panel from here. :)
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User #57720 - 30 Apr 20 06:09
That line at the bottom of panel 3 is just the right amount of ridiculous.
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2020-04-28T03:01:01+00:00
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Maybe Bunny Susan's affinity for Susan hasn't gone up much, but I bet her dancing made y'all swoon.

Commentary

Even though this is poking fun at the things you do to make NPCs like you in Fable 2, and how long it can sometimes take, that "10% goes up to 10.2%" bit reminds me more of Fallout 4.

In Fallout 4, you can have companions, and they like and dislike different things. Do enough things they like, and you'll progress through dialogue with them, possibly get a quest (I really feel there should have been more companion quests), and, eventually, get a new passive ability if they ever like you enough.

If you're fine with just traveling with them for a while and are prone to making choices they like, this can happen at a fairly natural pace. If you just want them to please like you already, however, and to try to rush it, it's a slow grind. What's more, you can't do too similar things that they like one after the other, or they won't be impressed, so you can't just impress the person who likes stealing by taking everything that isn't nailed down.

I granted, I prefer that to how Fallout New Vegas handled getting access to companion quests. The quests themselves were ultimately better, sure, but you triggered most of them by having your companions around in the right places and/or the right events, and if you didn't know what those places and/or events were, you just didn't get to do their quests, or could reach a point of them no longer being available.

It might be weird that you can make a Fallout 4 companion fall in love with you by picking enough locks over an extended period of time, but at least you didn't have to know to take them to the right place with the right NPC, have the right dialogue with that NPC, and know to ask your companion that new question that's been added to their dialogue options.

But then, at least in New Vegas, you knew you'd get some sort of quest with satisfying character development out of it. Neither game's getting a perfect score from me on this one.


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User #930880 - 28 Apr 20 03:04
Sheesh, even making friends in "The Sims" doesn't take that long.
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User #7131461 - 28 Apr 20 03:31
the one game where I made six fart jokes and got proposed to when I was just trying to network for my job.
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User #802428 - 28 Apr 20 08:09
see, the trick to maxing out how much they like you is to grab a lute, stand in a public place, and start playing. You draw a crowd pretty quick, and once you finish, they ALL get a love boost, and you can rinse and repeat however many times you like. Or you can alternate between that and yelling at them if you want to be both loved AND feared.
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User #13221362 - 29 Apr 20 22:05
Of course stealing everything not nailed down doesn't impress NPCs who like stealing. 1. That would most likely consider some possessions that NPC feels are theirs. Stealing from them is generally not something that would make them overly fond of you. 1a. If they're really into stealing, they may consider everything that isn't nailed down theirs. 2. You're leaving all the stuff that is nailed down. 2a. Some people consider things they can pry loose to be theirs also. Just sayin, so's you know. ;)
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2020-04-23T22:47:13+00:00
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One should probably know what they're being given to drink even if they like a person, but this is still an improvement. Well, from that perspective, anyway.

Commentary

This was what I originally had planned for the previous comic before realizing I really needed to address "why not just buy more potions" question.

Susan is talking to someone who looks like a bunny girl version of herself to answer the question "are the potions previously used on NPCs still in effect". Granted, that form's the result of an asset-swap potion, suggesting there simply are bunny girls who resemble Susan in this world, but I'm banking on people not assuming that.

How Uncouth!

I normally wouldn't have someone suggest making such noises in this comic, but blame the Fable games. What bunny-Susan is suggesting are emotes you can do in the games to impact NPC opinions of you (for good or bad. Different characters would want to see different things).

In Fable 2, there was an area of effect to this. You could start whistling in the middle of the town square, and anyone nearby would react to it. If an NPC was a merchant, this could affect their prices, and how much their shops would cost to purchase. You could also farm reputation this way, which was useful, as some missions had minimum popularity requirements. As another bonus, NPCs might have gifts depending on what they thought of you.

Point being, it was fairly easy to do, and there was incentive to do it.

In Fable 3, emoting was targeted, by which I mean there was a sort of emote mini-game that only affected one NPC at a time. I felt that change was for the worse, and I generally didn't try to impress NPCs in Fable 3 without some very specific goal, such as it being necessary for a quest, in mind.


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User #296020 - 23 Apr 20 22:49
You know Susan, you can try the potion yourself
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User #2430368 - 23 Apr 20 23:00
I think she's trying to rack up Evil Points so she can get her horns back.
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User #61875 - 25 Apr 20 03:45
The tail. It's all about the tail.
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User #802428 - 24 Apr 20 02:12
yeah. I also approved of there being two axes of "approval" - Love-Hate and Fear-Ridicule. Proving that at least one person on Lionhead's dev team has read The Prince.
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User #6569126 - 24 Apr 20 11:39
I always aimed at being both loved and feared!
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User #13221362 - 24 Apr 20 13:22
We're probably at least 100 years after the point when reading that particular source material was a prerequisite for anything besides a class. There's just so much derivative work out there it really isn't necessary.
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User #802428 - 24 Apr 20 21:19
Then you are a wise ruler. :P
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User #317597 - 25 Apr 20 09:42
I just want to say on the subject of updates, if you need to go to two a week for health reasons then please do so. I would rather have less for a while and you be healthy than have you try and push out comics and end up sick or injured.
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User #168573 - 24 Apr 20 04:19
I remember the description for the Potion of Gullibility: if you can talk them into drinking this, you can talk them into anything.
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2020-04-21T05:58:28+00:00
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I hear they're made with berries, you know.

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I hadn't actually planned on addressing this, but after being asked "why doesn't Susan just buy a bunch of the less potent potions" by several people, it became apparent that people had clearly FORGOTTEN how shops in the games I'm parodying work, and how they'd restock only after waiting seven days in-game time, and sometimes you'd have to wait a bit longer than that, or travel elsewhere first, or do SOMETHING to get the restock to trigger, because video games are weird sometimes!

What do you mean an exorbitantly large percentage of this comic's readers have never played those games?

What do you mean I'm unfairly assuming readers are aware of logic that I, the storyteller, have neglected to share, and now expect them to accept without question?

What do you mean I definitely should have planned to have this strip before the one I originally had planned for today?

You say a lot of hurtful and critical things, imaginary person!

Anyway, it would take over 19 in-game years for Susan to get the equivalent of four of the more powerful potions.


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User #222551 - 21 Apr 20 07:27
Yep. Games does have a ridiculous waiting time before restocking: 7 days or more. I can name a few for instance Might and Magic 6 and 7. I've camped (nearly) outside a shop many times. ><
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User #80558 - 21 Apr 20 06:05
And here I thought you could reach max level in anything in just 10,000 hours. Darn you, Malcolm Gladwell!
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User #61654 - 21 Apr 20 19:33
This is before we talk about the "I'm full" game mechanic that only lets a character consume a few potions at a time before they can't drink any more. Well this is a low-level town. It's possible a high-level town stocks better.
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2020-04-18T04:14:58+00:00
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I bet nobody's ever done a different take on THAT bit of dialogue before!

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The Simpsons?22 Short Films About Springfield? Never heard of those hams.

Now, obvious references that are obvious if one is familiar with the inspiration aside...

Retcon'd!

I wasn't planning this when I made Susan max levelin everything. At the time, it was hyperbole for the sake of comedy that nonetheless commented on how easy it was to become overpowered in the game. It wasn't perfectly reflective of what was literally likely while playing Fable 2, but I still felt it was fair commentary on how the game balance felt if partaking of potions.

When I decided I didn't want Susan to keep being THAT overpowered, I saw that hyperbole as my opening to provide a logic to the de-powering beyond "a wizard did it" (oh hey, another Simpsons reference, woo-hoo).

That said, fans of fab abs, note that "Dea Elsea" Tensaided has said things are still easy, and Susan will be able to get some power back. Part of the reason she wound up in this form was that, if I only undid the XP gained from potions, there'd have been no visual indication that anything had happened. Her reduction in strength would have to have been entirely told via narration, or additional time spent showing her inability to do things.

Either way, I figured "eh, we can see Susan in her starting form for a bit."


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User #296020 - 18 Apr 20 16:02
Please let her level up back to her awesome look again
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User #802428 - 18 Apr 20 12:21
hopefully the double-item bug still works here...
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User #57720 - 18 Apr 20 07:24
Pfahahahahaha.
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User #2321462 - 18 Apr 20 09:20
I hope she'll level up her magic
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2020-04-16T20:42:04+00:00
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Susan: Grumpy video game detective.

Commentary

Susan's investigation into this hypothesis may not be complete, but I'd think "baby's first XP bottle" is pretty telling evidence.

I'm not sure Susan should have to make an effort to hold anything up given the presumably elastic waistband, but I've been losing weight recently, and I have some older pants of my own that are perfectly fine until I try walking in them, so... Maybe? I'm not sure. I liked the idea of her arms being like that while deducing, so here we are.


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User #57720 - 16 Apr 20 21:20
> I've been losing weight recently Congrats! I really need to do the same. > overuse of "they" As much as I support the use of ungendered pronouns, "they" ends up being pretty confusing in this context. Makes it sounds like Susan's talking about an entire cabal of shadowy conspirators, rather than one (literally) shadowy person. > cheats vs. difficulty If this was going to be the explanation, why not just have the shadowy character say "Difficulty Level: MAX"? Or something to that effect.
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User #2598489 - 16 Apr 20 21:43
I think the idea is that the shadow character WAS cheating to make the game easier on Grace.
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User #8897149 - 16 Apr 20 21:55
yah, which is why "CHEATS OFF" reminded me of the Holodeck where the program originator tells it what to do
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egscomics - 16 Apr 20 21:58
I genuinely almost typed "they're" in reference to Susan. It really is my default most of the time without even thinking of it. In this instance, SUSAN is unsure of the gender of who SHE'S referring to (I genuinely nearly used "they're" again on reflex). As for difficulty level max, I went with cheats because I find the logic of certain things being reset or changed as a side effect acceptable due to things having been messed with in some way. I'm also personally used to difficulty settings just making enemies tougher.
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User #5606459 - 17 Apr 20 03:11
It shouldn't sound that way. For better or worse, English has used 'they' for both singular and plural third person pronouns for quite some time now. Tis not a new thing. "They" applies for singluar, plural, masculine or feminine... it only declines by case (they/them).
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User #57720 - 17 Apr 20 03:47
You're right. It *shouldn't*. It still did.
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User #2930361 - 17 Apr 20 16:52
And 'they' was singular long before 'you' transitioned from plural to singular in usage.
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User #6528079 - 17 Apr 20 21:27
The confusion is pronoun-overload, not the particular pronoun. It would be equally confusing with "he", and possibly even MORE so with "she", due to Grace also being referenced.
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User #296020 - 16 Apr 20 21:40
I'm guessing the potion shop was unaffected
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User #834347 - 16 Apr 20 20:49
Baby's First XP Bottle made me chuckle. As did her reaction to it.
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2020-04-14T20:19:13+00:00
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It's unclear whether Sarah's current form indicates how she transformed someone else without warning, or if she's just that size to fit in the bird cage, but it's safe to say she broke party rules!

That's supposed to be Nanase's foot in the back, but hey, I'm not the boss of you. Imagine that's whoever's foot you want.

I actually made a 3D model of that gosh darn bird cage to help me with this. It used to have more bars, but after accepting the horrible, horrible truth that seeing Sarah was more important than the bar spacing making sense, I removed half of them.

For once, I'm not completely sure how big Sarah is, but the bars of the cage were only 15 inches (38 cm) tall in the model, so... Pretty small.


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User #825158 - 14 Apr 20 20:28
Your commitment to good reference material continues to pay off. Super cute!
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User #448557 - 14 Apr 20 22:52
I see Sarah, like many of us, quite enjoys the idea of large breasts.
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User #61654 - 15 Apr 20 18:14
If the Sarah moments that Dan has drawn for the last few years are any judge, she likes them more than most of us. :)
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User #739641 - 14 Apr 20 20:44
Yeah, a properly secure cage can make it difficult to see what's inside. If done just for show, a cage that the "bird" can easily escape is not only more attractive, it's safer.
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User #834347 - 14 Apr 20 21:14
At that size, the cage may be more for her safety or sense of security...
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User #373821 - 14 Apr 20 20:20
Jailbird :-D
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User #930880 - 14 Apr 20 20:21
It now strikes me that Party Elliot has yet to make an appearance at this party.
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User #6005855 - 22 Apr 20 16:23
A revelation! We've not seen any bird transformations, ever I think?! May our future be more fortunately feathered!
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User #6005855 - 14 Apr 20 20:31
I mean, its obvious to me at least that her "size" was definitely part of the party prank her shirt's button barely closes!
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2020-04-14T03:01:00+00:00
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I'm not sure why, but I enjoy my characters liking tails.

I mean, really, imagine trying to sit in most chairs with a tail. It'd probably be disastrous, but nope. My characters just like having tails.

There will be a sketchbook later today. Well, Tuesday. Depending on timezone, you might be seeing this on Monday. POINT IS, that's a thing that's happening.

A thing that's happening on Tuesday.

Commentary

I may have given the wrong impression with my previous commentary. The logic behind this "cheats off" explanation for how Susan was de-powered wasn't intended to be instantly obvious. The eventual explanation is relatively simple and clean, but it still needs one.

Even Susan's confused! She didn't think she was cheating, and technically, she wasn't.

As for what the cheating was, I'll elaborate more later, but I'll say this for now: I'm taking advantage of the fact that, in order to make fun of how broken XP potions were in Fable 2, I jokingly made Susan max level in EVERYTHING before even finding the first hero.

The potions were broken, yes, but THAT was hyperbole for the sake of parody right there.

Technically correct, the best KIND of correct

After the last strip, it was pointed out to me that Susan's shirt really shouldn't be that loose at the bottom. After doing several complex calculations, and consulting someone wearing a lab coat, I have to concede the point. It should be looser than before, but not THAT loose.

I think it looks better this way than it would accurately, however. Here, it's just hanging loose. Accurately, it would be loose around the chest, and sort of taper at the bottom? It'd look a bit odd. Accurate, but odd.


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User #279168 - 14 Apr 20 10:00
I think I'd want a tail if it were prehensile or at least as controllable as a cats.
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User #296020 - 14 Apr 20 03:29
I'm pretty sure Susan will be able to find potions to give her back her proportions along with her tail I think
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User #211520 - 14 Apr 20 09:32
Guys, we’re all overlooking the big question here. WHAT HAPPENED TO BLACKSMITH ELLIOT AND HIS TWO GIRLFRIENDS?!
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User #6528079 - 14 Apr 20 18:12
I assume, nothing - that was neither the result of XP, nor Morality, and they aren't The Playable Character
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User #3248065 - 14 Apr 20 03:30
How about taking a bus but cancel reach the stop rope or passing by a toy store and imagining herself in the dolls clothes
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User #4342417 - 14 Apr 20 03:49
Was it cheats? Or exploits?
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User #13221362 - 16 Apr 20 04:52
What is the difference between a cheat and an exploit? It's my impression that an exploit is something that the game designers didn't intend, while a cheat is something they did intend. This would therefore be a cheat.
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User #66072 - 14 Apr 20 03:13
Tails are no problem if you have open-backed chairs.
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User #6528079 - 14 Apr 20 09:14
Wow, the cloaked stranger will feel stupid if it turns out Grace only appears in the post-game "Squirrel Queen" DLC. Also, Grace would probably be very disappointed in what they just did.
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User #211520 - 14 Apr 20 09:45
And all those miniturized criminals and villains too, I guess, but mostly Blacksmith Elliot and his two identical girlfriends.
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User #6711452 - 14 Apr 20 05:31
Really need to see her now-oversized trousers just fwump to the ground as soon as she tries to walk.
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User #802428 - 14 Apr 20 08:05
well, at least it didn't reset ALL her progress. She's still a fabulously wealthy land magnate, and now she's found the Hero of Melee, stronger XP potions are available in stores, so she'll be able to level up faster.
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User #13221362 - 16 Apr 20 05:00
It's too soon to tell whether they reset the stuff that's just off panel, let alone the stuff that's way off panel.
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User #802428 - 16 Apr 20 08:20
He SAID what undoing the cheats does: it resets her morality and XP, not the entire game.
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User #61875 - 22 Apr 20 02:00
Tails are cool! I wish I had one, too.
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User #332703 - 14 Apr 20 03:09
... She still owns like 90% of the game's economy, right? So any second she should suddenly be stupid rich and able to abuse that?
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User #6453453 - 14 Apr 20 04:25
aww she misses the tail.... mood honestly
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User #57720 - 14 Apr 20 04:20
I think this whole "she was technically cheating because potions were too powerful" thing only makes sense in *your* head, Dan. Most of us haven't played Fable 2 to the point of being able to understand the "implied cheating" you're relying on, here. Not to mention that I'm pretty sure you never actually mentioned *how* Susan got to level 5 in every stat. I had been assuming this whole time that she'd been adventuring off screen. I don't recall XP Potions being mentioned at all, though that may be my bad memory at work.
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egscomics - 14 Apr 20 04:31
How anything was "cheating" hasn't been explained yet, and the XP potions (and pies) were brought up in the thirteenth strip. Very little about this is intended to be clear yet. The commentary is just a hint at something being off.
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egscomics - 14 Apr 20 04:39
All I was saying in the commentary was that I gave myself an opening to do something. What that something was has yet to be explained. It's not supposed to all make sense yet.
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User #4767604 - 14 Apr 20 10:04
I hate to say it Dan, but there is a difference between "Isn't this mysterious and interesting, I bet you can't wait to find out the secret" and "I know it seems stupid and poorly written now, but you just don't GET it yet. Just wait for me to retroactively make this crude and jarring plotpoint make sense, eventually." And having the character just sort of Yadda yadda away a major consequence of a seemingly random and completely counter-intuitive action doesn't make it better. "Hey, go find this person, but first let me make that WAY harder by taking away your levels and implying you're a bad person. There, now that I've both insulted and harmed you, you're sure to do what I say!" I'm sure it will all make sense, some day, but that doesn't make this enjoyable now.
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User #57720 - 14 Apr 20 10:07
Thank you for putting my thoughts into words much more eloquently than I could have.
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User #4767604 - 14 Apr 20 10:26
I think the main issue is that it doesn't actually feel like there is a reveal comming. It just feels like that guy is a gatekeeping omnipotent jerk.
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egscomics - 14 Apr 20 13:05
The thing about update pacing is a thing can be explained very quickly in the story and still take a few weeks. I can either overdo the explanation to avoid that, or write around it working in the archives.
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egscomics - 14 Apr 20 13:11
Huh. Posting on mobile doesn’t seem to make paragraphs possible. Annoying. Anyway, I think basically what I’ve done wrong here is more in the commentary than in the comics. It sounds like I’ve given an impression of “this is supposed to make sense already”, which would naturally agitate anyone who already doesn’t like this development.
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egscomics - 14 Apr 20 16:08
I also confess to being confused as to how this feels like something without a reveal coming. Nothing's been explained about who this person is, only hints as to what they want and are capable of. I don't understand how it wouldn't be viewed as a mystery.
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User #57720 - 14 Apr 20 21:00
There's a difference between "Something weird happened and I don't understand it yet" and "This thing that just happened makes no sense in the context of the story, based on existing rules that have already been established." This scene doesn't come off as mysterious; it comes off as bad writing. Though I think you're right that this reaction is due in large part to not being able to read several pages all at once, and to your commentary making it sound like it's supposed to already make sense. As for paragraphs on mobile, since you can't press Shift-Enter to make Patreon put in a linebreak rather than posting the comment, the only way I've found to do it is to compose the text in a program like Notes, and then paste it into the comment box.
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egscomics - 14 Apr 20 21:51
I disagree on the bad writing unless referring to the commentary, as the commentary was meant to imply it SHOULDN'T make sense yet :P
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User #4767604 - 14 Apr 20 22:13
No, I haven't read any of your commentaries. In your comic, a character just came in, babbled, made some claims with no explanation or justifications, accused the main character of cheating, took away her XP, and then demanded she go do chores for him. It doesn't feel like the world is going to reveal why they're right, it feels like they're an omnipotent liar. The flow of the story doesn't seem like you are going to explain why they did this, it seems like they are a rude liar who just ran in like an older brother and screamed "NO YOU'RE PLAYING WRONG!" and reset the system because he thinks any way of playing but his own is stupid. And thats ignoring that their actions are self-defeating since Susan is now less likely to be able to find Grace due to her weakened state, and less likely to do what they say since they gave her no reason to and just sort of...ran in and meta assaulted her with no explanation. Plus, their whole monologue about Susan being a glory hog makes no sense, the first half of this story was 99% Susan complaining that she didn't want to be bothered to be the main character. This guy has no reasoning behind anything he has said or done, he just ran in, made a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, ruined Susan's powers, and then ran off without explaining why he did any of that or why she should care what he says.
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User #4767604 - 14 Apr 20 22:19 - revision 2
Let me give you an example. "What did Obiwan tell you about your father?" "He told me you killed him!" "No, I am your father" is a crazy claim that makes me want to know more and seems cool and mysterious. "What did Obiwan tell you about your father?" "He told me you killed him." "No, Luke, You killed him! Also, Jedi aren't real, and Obiwan is just some old man." Confusing, contradictory, makes no sense. It doesn't feel like the rest of the movie will explain these claims from Vader, it feels like the writer had a stroke.
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User #4767604 - 14 Apr 20 22:19 - revision 3
Let me give you an example. "What did Obiwan tell you about your father?" "He told me you killed him!" "No, I am your father" is a crazy claim that makes me want to know more and seems cool and mysterious. "What did Obiwan tell you about your father?" "He told me you killed him." "No, Luke, You killed him! Also, Jedi aren't real, and Obiwan is just some old man." Confusing, contradictory, makes no sense. It doesn't feel like the rest of the movie will explain these claims from Vader, it feels like the writer had a stroke.
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User #4767604 - 14 Apr 20 22:19
Let me give you an example. "What did Obiwan tell you about your father?" "He told me you killed him!" "No, I am your father" is a crazy claim that makes me want to know more and seems cool and mysterious. "What did Obiwan tell you about your father?" "He told me your killed him." "No, Luke, You killed him! Also, Jedi aren't real, and Obiwan is just some old man." Confusing, contradictory, makes no sense. It doesn't feel like the rest of the movie will explain these claims from Vader, it feels like the writer had a stroke.
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User #3122648 - 14 Apr 20 03:08
Thanks for clearing it up. You didn't have to. But it's nice to see Susan had the same reaction as a lot of us. lol
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User #930880 - 14 Apr 20 03:08
I'd want a tail only if it came with several other animal features. Otherwise, it'd feel out of place.
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User #164015 - 15 Apr 20 03:21
Um, but she's still filthy rich and has a ton of potions.
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User #168573 - 14 Apr 20 04:48
She's not the only one who wants a tail: https://tinyurl.com/sx4rfpr
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User #280829 - 14 Apr 20 03:28
Its wierd she had zero motivation to farm XP in the first place and was glad to get those from potions. How should she have ANY motivation now to farm stuff XP? She does not know who Grace is and she has a minion who already does the melee-clubbing-the-enemies work. In her case I'd just sit around and earn more money again....
Parable - 91 - HD
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2020-04-11T21:48:45+00:00
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I'm just going to run from all the torches and pitchforks now.

Sidenote - The next sketchbook is presently planned for Tuesday. I felt I’d be rushing it for Sunday, and based on what’s coming up next, I think Tuesday will be low stress to get done.

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I planned this without deciding on the explanation for how it was pulled off, and pretty much last minute settled on "cheats off" because it winds up with the simplest explanations. I can think of some other ways it could be explained, but they feel more convoluted and messy.

It's a fantastic feeling to have written something happening only for the explanation to be "insert technical explanation here". Made me feel like a writer on Star Trek.


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User #930880 - 11 Apr 20 21:51
Eh, I think she looks better this way. That said, I hope she's back to her RL figure rather than, oh, completely flat.
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User #3466246 - 11 Apr 20 22:17
Much better, yes. It's fun to play with other looks but she is who she really is
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User #3466246 - 11 Apr 20 22:18
Ok folks, hopefully everyone got the pitchforks I handed out last update. Best get them ready and cut off the escape.
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User #6528079 - 12 Apr 20 09:10
Hey, if cheats are off, does this mean that Slow Time will now actually allow Susan to catch the Mysterious Hooded Figure?
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User #2321462 - 12 Apr 20 09:28
Also, why does her shirt become looser?
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User #57720 - 12 Apr 20 10:35
No more boobs to push it out. Also her torso appears to be smaller
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User #2321462 - 12 Apr 20 18:50
that makes no sense, cause it's tighter below her breasts when they were bigger
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egscomics - 12 Apr 20 21:16
Huh. That is true. To be fair, it would be looser, but it IS looser than it should be.
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User #13630324 - 11 Apr 20 22:03
"Bend rules" or "cheat" - allee same same
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User #262384 - 11 Apr 20 22:32
So huh, "Cheats Off" is a cheat to turn buff potions off, right?
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User #57720 - 12 Apr 20 10:34
She only has cosmetic potions active. She's actually level 5 in all stats, and is using potions just to make herself not actually *look* like she's level 5 in everything.
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User #2628211 - 12 Apr 20 22:52
She said earlier that she had used potions to level up too (#50 in answer to 'how so strong', and 'why not Basketballs'), so it's possible that without the potion effects she only ever gained the one level. I guess she should have gained some XP in the last cave, but then again if she was 'maxed' I guess she couldn't level up any further.
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User #72702 - 12 Apr 20 02:57
This just turned down the darkest timeline.
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User #2321462 - 12 Apr 20 09:28
huh, but none of those changes were cheats. horns and hair was due to karma, and length and boobs due to level. In fact, she stated she used potions to reduce her breasts (because otherwise they would be beachballs). Seems more like a "reset to default".
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User #4342417 - 12 Apr 20 01:19
I’ve been watching a lot of D&D horror stories lately, and this reminds me of a railroad DM who’s annoyed at his players for not following his script to the letter, and then just forces them to do so.
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User #2700631 - 11 Apr 20 22:08
Read panel 2 right to left and everything is much better
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User #825158 - 11 Apr 20 22:20
"Potions aren't cheats, they're a part of-" "CHEATING CHEATER CHEATY FACE!"
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User #57720 - 12 Apr 20 10:37
I agree with a lot of commenters, here. You really failed to properly convey what's happening via "Cheats Off". Even *if* Susan had been cheating, which she wasn't, the only thing that's *like* cheating was her appearance potions. But turning those off would *not* have done what we see on this page.
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egscomics - 12 Apr 20 16:45
It's not intended to be clear yet. Susan herself will express confusion in the next strip. It's the eventual explanation that's relatively simple.
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User #279168 - 12 Apr 20 04:50
NOOOooo...
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User #296020 - 11 Apr 20 21:50
and there was a collective NOOOOO from the viewers
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User #3122648 - 11 Apr 20 21:52
Aw... I thought she just bent the rules. I didn't think she was cheating.
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User #802428 - 12 Apr 20 08:43
...She WASN'T. This makes no sense.
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User #57720 - 12 Apr 20 10:33
Agreed. Dan went too far toward "simplifying" the explanation. At the absolute worst, I can see "Potions Off" being a thing. But that'd just make her a super buff, super voluptuous amazon, rather than de-powering her, which seems to be what Dan is going for, here.
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User #3704968 - 17 Apr 20 03:51
She wasn't cheating, but someone was. And is no longer.
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User #184349 - 12 Apr 20 00:37
Yeah that doesn't make any sense at all. There's a big difference between an exploit and a cheat.
Parable - 90 - HD
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2020-04-10T01:23:11+00:00
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Oh ye gods there's some sort of actual plot to this nonsense, isn't there.

Well, retroactively.

Commentary

I feel this took me longer than it should have. Granted, most of the time was deciding exactly what I wanted to happen next, and then I got sidetracked by something really annoying and technical, and then I had a headache that I still have (fitting given this comic, but still), and...

Okay, looking at it from a certain behind the scenes perspective, it's not that mysterious, but it's still two closeups on Susan and what amounts to a blob with white eyes.

Oh. Right. The actual context of the comic. Um... Y'all gonna be mad at me okay bye


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User #3466246 - 10 Apr 20 02:38
Hmm... *Starts handing out the pitchforks* You know, in case there is hay in need of bailing...
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User #168573 - 10 Apr 20 04:08
Don't think about the forbidden thoughts.
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User #6005855 - 10 Apr 20 04:51
Shadow person reminds me of you Dan, (or your comic persona anyway) Maybe its the shape of the eyes, I haven't a clue.
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User #825158 - 10 Apr 20 02:04
I'M CONFUSED BUT IN A GOOD WAY.
Parable - 89 - HD
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2020-04-07T03:01:00+00:00
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Aw, they just want fun facts! Here's one: Grace thinks all purple things taste like grapes.

Commentary

I really was just planning to parody a video game series. I really was.

Then I wanted to see Rhoda go on a date, and then I got other ideas, and there was this duck... No, not that duck. Some actual duck. It was outside, and I was all like "cool. A duck."

Okay, I confess that the duck has nothing to do with this. I just wanted to talk about it, because it was cool to see a duck. It waddled and quacked and stuff. It was pretty neat.


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User #279168 - 7 Apr 20 06:50
Like actual grapes, not grape flavoring.
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User #13221362 - 8 Apr 20 04:38
That depends. If it's actual purple, actual grapes. If it's artificial purple coloring, then it's grape flavoring.
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User #13221362 - 8 Apr 20 04:38
That depends. If it's actual purple, actual grapes. If it's artificial purple coloring, then it's grape flavoring.
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User #13221362 - 9 Apr 20 04:22
You're right, Dan. That's me laughing maniacally. That's rather astute of you to notice. I thought you lived too far from where I do to possibly hear me. I mean, you think squirrels are supposed to be *brown*. The squirrels around here aren't that.
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User #930880 - 7 Apr 20 03:29
Grace is in for an unpleasant surprise when she bites into an eggplant.\
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User #13221362 - 8 Apr 20 04:48
That depends a great deal on how her taste buds work. I'd guess she's probably different enough from the typical human that I'd just be willing to bet she's in for a surprise.
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User #13221362 - 8 Apr 20 04:48
That depends a great deal on how her taste buds work. I'd guess she's probably different enough from the typical human that I'd just be willing to bet she's in for a surprise.
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User #3712862 - 7 Apr 20 18:20
Pretty sure this is the same guy from Dan MUD (just with a hair cut) https://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/2005-07-22
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User #221926 - 8 Apr 20 15:48
No, that was Noah. At least, I think it was; he has the "only one eye" thing going on. This is... someone else. Not sure who. I can't think of any known character whose response to Grace's casual nudity would be "She's a pervert?!" And he has both eyes. And he talks *way* too much, and way too crotchety, to be Noah.
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User #221926 - 8 Apr 20 15:48
No, that was Noah. At least, I think it was; he has the "only one eye" thing going on. This is... someone else. Not sure who. I can't think of any known character whose response to Grace's casual nudity would be "She's a pervert?!" And he has both eyes. And he talks *way* too much, and way too crotchety, to be Noah.
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User #296020 - 7 Apr 20 03:02
...so our mystery figure knows very little about Grace? I guess that rules Tedd out
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User #3466246 - 7 Apr 20 03:33
Noah and then Diane would seem to be the most likely of candidates.
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User #230507 - 7 Apr 20 13:08
Or, you know, it's a new character. Even in this NP story line The Dan introduced new characters.
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User #802428 - 7 Apr 20 03:17
So... he knows enough about this world to (supposedly) know that Grace created it, but knows next to nothing about Grace herself.
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User #13221362 - 8 Apr 20 04:44
Well, yes. High genre savvy, but she's a bit of a squirrelly recluse, so they've not really gotten to know her. This is, incidentally, the motivation for all of this: it's really frustrating to know all of this stuff about ones world, but then not know vital details to make any of that mean anything. I'm guessing the answer is, "Um, well, she invited me over and is letting me play on her computer. She's sitting right next to me watching me play and talking with me about it, though."
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User #13221362 - 8 Apr 20 04:44
Well, yes. High genre savvy, but she's a bit of a squirrelly recluse, so they've not really gotten to know her. This is, incidentally, the motivation for all of this: it's really frustrating to know all of this stuff about ones world, but then not know vital details to make any of that mean anything. I'm guessing the answer is, "Um, well, she invited me over and is letting me play on her computer. She's sitting right next to me watching me play and talking with me about it, though."
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User #13355967 - 8 Apr 20 16:10
Did you mention duck because it's been a while since Demonic Duck has made an appearance?
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User #7131461 - 7 Apr 20 03:15
Distracted by actual duck is like, the most quarantine/ADHD thing I can think of right now. Just remember, only bad guys play with ducks. Good kids don't engage in... fowl play.
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User #6005855 - 7 Apr 20 03:12
I'm having fun so far! Feel free to continue to get distracted if these are the results :D
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User #196538 - 7 Apr 20 13:50
How dare you call Grace a pervert! That's Tedd's job!
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User #330507 - 10 Apr 20 03:29
as a fellow nudist I still resent that its implied that im a pervert cause I dont like wearing clothes :D
Dan's Choice - A Second Cup of Tea
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2020-04-05T03:53:54+00:00
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I confess to having the idea of pants essentially turning into stockings instead of simply getting skimpier in more traditional ways with magic tea, and finally giving in to the impulse to draw it.

I mean, that's the context I intended, anyway. By my own beliefs, I don't get to demand how this be interpreted. Maybe in your mind, that's just the latest fashion trend.

Anyway, let's add this to the list of things that made me ask "is this too much?" before remembering everything I'd already drawn before, and how that ship was way out in the ocean somewhere already, if not in outer space.


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User #213390 - 5 Apr 20 15:05
Maybe the ship can carry that astronaut alien and shark to the moon.
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User #57720 - 5 Apr 20 04:22
Sarah looks *good* like this!
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User #57720 - 5 Apr 20 04:22 - revision 2
Sarah looks *good* like this! I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining, but this does seems slightly lower resolution than usual for your Patreon posts. Is that intended?
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User #9598307 - 5 Apr 20 04:14
Yeah, there’s little that would be too much for me.
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User #2559602 - 5 Apr 20 07:00
There's no such thing as too much
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User #6296072 - 5 Apr 20 14:10
"Because overkill is underrated."
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User #825158 - 5 Apr 20 04:19
This is super cute and Tea remains an absolute treasure. The proprietress of the shop, not the drink. Because I still blame/thank her for it all.
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User #279168 - 5 Apr 20 04:00
Always room for more tea
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User #750104 - 5 Apr 20 06:05
nett
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User #18487563 - 5 Apr 20 11:09
I find that, like everything else you have presented, this is handled well and (dare I say) tastefully. But yes, the fine ship EGS is far out among the stars. Just as we like it. And I second that this is a good look for Sarah. Just look at that smile!
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User #298410 - 5 Apr 20 08:15
Just so i see this correct, her legs are now constricted? She cant walk properly like this?
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User #222551 - 5 Apr 20 10:16
Agreed. And how would her pants-stockings hold itself up?
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User #6528079 - 5 Apr 20 11:34
Unless they've split in two. There's a reason it's called a _pair_ of trousers...
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egscomics - 5 Apr 20 18:55
They're split in two, and the waistbands are now like elastic around her thighs, holding them up.
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User #6005855 - 6 Apr 20 23:51
That's a shame... "Unfortunately for Sarah, her legging, jean, skirt, bottoms couldn't decide what they are, and fused together, locking her legs shut, this was amusing to the party goers when the tea made her need a restroom."
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User #3600975 - 5 Apr 20 03:59
Some people would call that "not enough" rather than "too much".
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User #840563 - 5 Apr 20 04:24
Is the almost trans pride colors intentional?
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User #930880 - 5 Apr 20 17:35
I was unaware of those colors. Never know what I'll learn around here.
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User #6453453 - 5 Apr 20 05:24
oh cute
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User #631247 - 5 Apr 20 05:27
Whenever you have to ask yourself "is this too much", just remember that most of us will take as much as you feel comfortable giving.
Parable - 88 - HD
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2020-04-04T21:41:48+00:00
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Whenever Grace isn't on panel, people should be asking "where's Grace?"

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Okay, I think I know what game this is from, now.

Objections, accusations, reasons to say "hold it"...

This is SO obviously an Ace Attorney parody!

...Right?


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User #344107 - 4 Apr 20 22:14
Plot Twist: Grace is playing the Villain.
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User #57720 - 4 Apr 20 22:13
Say what??
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User #8897149 - 5 Apr 20 00:54
Ever since she became the melee champ, i've been wondering if Dan had the hammers transferred to the monk, as monks in most RPG's i know of can wield flails, mauls, hammers, and staves in addition to hand-and-foot.
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User #221926 - 6 Apr 20 17:28
They could be confused. This could be a Final Fantasy parody, and Rhoda is not the "Hero of Melee", but a White Mage.
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User #61654 - 5 Apr 20 20:19
The complaint "where's Grace?!" becomes more meta the longer I think aboutit.... :)
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User #534846 - 4 Apr 20 21:58
Unexpected, but somehow hilarious. :)
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User #13630324 - 4 Apr 20 22:31
Bet he's got purple hair under that hood...
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User #373821 - 4 Apr 20 21:43
Grace Attorney?
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User #6005855 - 4 Apr 20 21:45
No just a squirrel wearing a necktie and a very convincing glare.
Parable - 87 - HD
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2020-04-03T04:55:07+00:00
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Boo-yah. Or something. I'm tired.

Commentary

Y'all ready for what was supposed to be a parody of a video game I like to get WEIRD?

"It already got weird."

... Weird... ER?

"GASP"

And yes, this is totally a Thursday comic it's just a little posted on a Friday depending on time zone it's still good it's still good!


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User #61654 - 3 Apr 20 18:34
"here. Drink this potion,"
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User #13355967 - 3 Apr 20 20:24
"You aren't you when you're hungry"
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User #57720 - 3 Apr 20 05:36
Is this guy going to be one of those guys who's intentionally written to misuse idioms? Because I like those.
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User #7707615 - 3 Apr 20 06:54
Still Thursday here.
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User #280829 - 3 Apr 20 06:43
She probably is the hero of economics, yet to be revealed. :D
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User #802428 - 3 Apr 20 13:18
"Better question: Why WOULD I be the Hero of Melee? Do you know something I don't?"
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egscomics - 3 Apr 20 17:08
This is the part where I laugh maniacally
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User #521488 - 3 Apr 20 10:15
"Because magic is much more broken!"
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User #3466246 - 3 Apr 20 18:58
You know, shadow person does raise a good point
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User #66215 - 3 Apr 20 21:26
"well, there was this cutscene where I couldn't actually use my abilities, so I assume that part of the story is on rails"
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User #3448782 - 3 Apr 20 05:18
Friday 12PM here :p. But it is not important, it's a thursday comic in our heart <3.
Parable - 86 - HD
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2020-03-31T03:22:18+00:00
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Angry cardio Susan.

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I've put all my skill points into hammers, and everything is a nail.

What do you mean there's an anti-hammer enemy? EVERYTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NAIL!

Huh. I'm suddenly reminded of boss fights in Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Later versions of the game had non-combat skill options for dealing with the bosses, but the original version had no such thing. You could be a master of being sneaky and chatty with no enhanced offense or defense, and just be completely without options beyond luck, VERY careful and slow strategy, and possibly adjusting the difficulty settings.

As much as Susan has a point about keeping players from relying too much on just one strategy, I suppose there is such a thing as making it seem like a specialized strategy will work, only to later wind up leaving the player without viable options.

Granted, Susan's technically got options for days, so that's not really what's happening here, but it is a counterpoint that just occurred to me while writing this commentary.


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User #6296072 - 31 Mar 20 13:03
Some of these tales are reminding me of a comic strip (_Fox Trot_, perhaps?) where the youngest was outraged that not only had his older sister used one of his saves, she had won a gave he couldn't. "How did you beat the final boss?!" "I just walked around him." "No, really, how did you beat the final boss?!"
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User #13221362 - 1 Apr 20 04:43
My vague memory is consistent with yours: I believe I read a Fox Trot like that, but I'm not 100% certain.
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User #354100 - 1 Apr 20 13:11
I remember that (though I don't think it was actually the final boss, just one he had been stuck at). I'm almost certain it was Fox Trot. (This was way back in 1999, around the same time as the Phantom Menace came out. The only reason I remember it as well as I do is I cut the strip out of the newspaper and stuck it in a scrapbook; unfortunately that scrapbook is not easily accessed right now.)
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User #3535699 - 31 Mar 20 10:16
I remember playing Oblivion; dumped all my stats into being a sneaky archer. Worked great for much of the game: shoot them before they see you, if they see you just hide, if they find you their pretty much already dead. And then I encountered my first Oblivion tower and suddenly I'm in close quarters with nowhere to hide: "shoot and hide" was impossible, there was no way to survive short of leaving, grinding up some defense and melee skills, and coming back later. I opted for cheat codes instead.
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User #4884084 - 1 Apr 20 16:52
Really? I went stealth archer as well, and while it was a slow process, I stealth-archered up the towers without too much issue (had to take corners very very carefully, and the occasional staggered retreat helped a lot too, but all in all it wasn't that rough?)
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User #279168 - 31 Mar 20 20:19
If I can, I like to become a jack of all trades so I can talk characters down OR punch their face in OR Shoot them from across the map before they even know I'm around OR sneak in, steal the clothes off their body & leave.
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User #6296072 - 31 Mar 20 13:04
What I want to know is how to do paragraphs without it thinking I'm ready to post. :-(
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User #578976 - 31 Mar 20 18:00
Shift-Enter allows you to enter a line break on Patreon as you are typing. Alternatively, type your post elsewhere and copy/paste it.
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User #6296072 - 31 Mar 20 22:44
Thanky!
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User #7131461 - 31 Mar 20 04:23
I didn't have much trouble with the DX bosses... I played the original, where I ran around with tranq darts, riot baton, pepper spray... and a shotgun loaded with slugs for when I ran into a bot. This also helped with going rogue in the plane to stop a murder on my 2nd run. And then for the really beefy guy, I led him into a pile of explosions... and in the sea base, epic sword duel! So going into DX, I kept the mindset of "nonlethal where permitted, but be prepared to escalate for bosses." If you severely outclass a foe, you do not have to resort to lethal options. It's one reason to avoid fair fights whenever possible. ;)
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User #930880 - 31 Mar 20 05:04
Yeah, but in my experience, DX:HR was a different animal. And not nearly as fun.
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User #57720 - 31 Mar 20 08:10
The disadvantage of that mentality is that DX:HR actually has achievements to earn by being completely non-lethal for the whole run. Except against those specific bosses. Which was very confusing at first.
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User #930880 - 31 Mar 20 05:05
Reminds me of "Okami," where most enemies froze when you got out the Celestial Brush, but a couple exceptions kept you on your toes.
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User #802428 - 31 Mar 20 11:27
and there's at least one boss who can also use the celestial brush, and will do so if you take too long with your own brushwork.
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User #4342417 - 31 Mar 20 05:09
This is why I love tabletop D&D. A good DM will have multiple options for beating enemies or completing objectives. And a good DM will know how to counter players coming up with that ‘one tactic to rule them all’ without breaking immersion.
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User #4884084 - 1 Apr 20 16:49
On this topic, never forget the power of simply having a conversation with the players. For example, Exalted 2e is infamous for the strategy of "perfect defence spam", where you basically wait out your enemy's essence reserves until they either stop trying or don't have enough motes left to meaningfully defend anymore. This is extremely effective against a huge variety of foes, but is boring AF to actually sit through. The solution is not to force the players to deal with enemies who have higher essence reserves than they do: the solution is to talk to your players about how yes that strategy wins, but it really ruins the fun and excitement of the battle and turns it into a slog waiting for someone to mess up, and can we all agree to not over-rely on perfect defenses so much?
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User #13221362 - 31 Mar 20 05:10
It still could be what's going on there. It's just that since she worked out an "infinite" source of money and a way to convert that to "infinite" experience, she covered her bases before she ran into this. I totally ran into this sort of situation with Daggerfall. I learned early on that a sorcerer build allowed one to fireball ones feet with nigh impunity repeatedly, basically as fast as you could cast it. And this worked great, up until I started running into Vampire Ancients and Fire Daedra. As far as I know, the Vampire Ancients weren't immune to fire, they were just incredibly fast and prone at casting spells at me while I was depending on being able to absorb my fireball. But of course, the Fire Daedra are completely immune to fire. Of course, since I had said I ran into *this* situation, that actually wasn't that much of a problem, because by the time this shit all happened, I'd upgraded from my fireball spell to a custom fire frost shock spell, doing insane amounts of damage per 5 seconds. I also had days worth of a regeneration spell that was giving me my full health every 5 seconds, ridiculous amounts of boosted stats, and I'd advanced my level far enough my MP bar was kind of insanely huge, and I mostly kept it near empty for exactly the sort of issue with the ancients. So, had I actually gone with my one trick pony, I'd have hit a damned hard wall, but as it was, I merely noticed the vampire ancient pack and noted that the fire daedra were on the list of immune to fire. (Technically, I noticed the vampire ancients quite a ways off, because their monster noise sounded very reminiscent of my post-stroke great uncle in his final few days. Given how overpowered I was from abusing game mechanics and how recently he had passed at the time, that was a far more profound impact on me than anything else with those guys.)
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User #633482 - 31 Mar 20 17:51
Fuckin Beyond Good and Evil. It was a nifty rpg that allowed clever sneaking options to beat everything. Except the goddamn final boss fight so I never found out how the game ended.
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User #57720 - 31 Mar 20 03:58
Oh man, I remember the extreme annoyance of the DX:HR bosses when building yourself as a non-lethal stealth master. They SUCKED. I actually had to reload an earlier save to collect some explosives to beat the first one. After that, though, I knew I'd need lethal options for the future bosses, so I started packing an assault rifle. One of those, fully upgraded, is pretty devastating to the two other forced-combat bosses. I'm definitely glad that the updated versions gave you non-combat means of defeating them.
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User #6761838 - 31 Mar 20 08:00
Random trivia - those boss fights in DX:HR were actually outsourced to an entirely different development studio.
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2020-03-28T03:01:02+00:00
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A predictable outcome.

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I didn't feel like drawing a proper background in panel one, so we wound up with... Whatever THAT is.

Sure are a lot of choices happening as a result of "but I don't WANNA draw that...!"

As for what this bit is commenting on, it's, um... Wait, I know I was parodying SOMETHING, but... Eh, it'll come back to me eventually.


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User #4342417 - 28 Mar 20 04:07
I like the background in first panel. It’s good to use visuals like that to indicate use of a spell that does not itself have visuals. And I like clocks.
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User #296020 - 28 Mar 20 03:18
Did Susan get more toned in the midsection or is it just me?
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egscomics - 28 Mar 20 03:26
The power of flexing!
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User #66215 - 29 Mar 20 18:57
A just-off-panel wizard did it :)
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User #80558 - 28 Mar 20 03:11
I'm a fan of stylistic clockspace background.
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User #25169818 - 28 Mar 20 09:57
Or they could be immune to the effects of Slow Time.
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User #13221362 - 30 Mar 20 23:01
Hu-MON is because Armin Shimerman. At least, he's the first one I know of who did it, and all of the other early ones I know of referenced his portrayal of Quark the Ferengi. For what it's worth, Quark was doing it to be deliberately antagonistic in a manner that would not justify a provoked response. Basically, he wanted the person he was addressing to be off his game a bit.
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User #21885563 - 2 Apr 20 00:18
I wasn't aware of the history per se, but it always struck me as a deliberately derogatory pronunciation, like a racial epithet.
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User #279168 - 28 Mar 20 09:45
If they're this fast when Slow Time is on, imagine how fast they are normally.
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2020-03-27T00:34:42+00:00
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Whu-ohs

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Because of my aversion to drawing close ups of hand holding, we got Rhoda and Catalina kissing, and then a second comic devoted to them actually holding hands, because I had THIS comic in mind before the comic they kissed in, and I wanted hand holding while walking witnessed from a distance.

A lot can happen because I don't want to draw close ups of hands being held.


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User #2498802 - 27 Mar 20 18:29
She left off the “Hell Naw”
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User #296020 - 27 Mar 20 00:46
and the plot resumes
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User #279168 - 27 Mar 20 02:40
"C'mon Dude, they're having a nice time, don't fudge with their steez!"
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User #7099701 - 27 Mar 20 16:50
Dun...Dun....DDDUUUNNN
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User #3248065 - 27 Mar 20 02:27
Hope that sinister being tfs them
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User #930880 - 27 Mar 20 02:34
To their advantage?
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User #3248065 - 27 Mar 20 23:02
Disadvantage
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User #930880 - 27 Mar 20 02:34
Hey, Cloakie could be reacting the same way you just did.
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2020-03-24T05:32:03+00:00
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CAKE

COMMENTARY

I WILL BOTH HAVE, AND EAT, ALL OF THE CAKES

ALL OF THEM

AND NOT DRAW CLOSE UPS OF HAND HOLDING

MWUH-HAHAHAHAHA


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User #7099701 - 24 Mar 20 10:39
Handholding!?!?! How lewd! Think of the children!
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User #279168 - 24 Mar 20 11:34
G A S P ! ! !
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User #448557 - 24 Mar 20 07:25
I'm looking forward to Susan finally catching up with them and going "there you are! what have you been doing this whole time?!" and then Rhoda responds "I have a girlfriend now! we kissed! ....they weren't exactly clear on this at the monastery, but does that mean I'm pregnant?"
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User #975232 - 24 Mar 20 16:52
So many reaction images I want to add for this. The succubus one about degenerates who like hand holding and the anime one where they censor the hand holding.
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User #262384 - 24 Mar 20 06:10
Like many farms and skeletons, the hand hold is conveniently just quite off frame. Well played!
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User #296020 - 24 Mar 20 12:43
So, would they be transformed because of the morality system in place like Susan was or?
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User #66215 - 25 Mar 20 17:14
Surprised the handholding isn't pixelated out :)
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User #2356961 - 24 Mar 20 05:38
That is an excellent illustration of hand holding, and an excellent fitting of it into the plot. Well done!
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User #57720 - 24 Mar 20 05:46
Awwww!
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User #224183 - 26 Mar 20 14:27
They're so cute and I'm glad they're happy. :>
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User #222551 - 24 Mar 20 08:56
It's a strange thing; nearly all artists I know have a problem with hands. I wonder why? :P
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User #930880 - 24 Mar 20 13:54
Probably because fingers are so thin. (Hair is thinner, but you can draw it as a single mass.)
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User #306173 - 25 Mar 20 01:22
Have you ever, like, LOOKED at your hands, man? No, but seriously, look at your hands. Every single part is curved. Often, like with fingers, they're curved on 2 separate axes. And no one practices hands the way they do something like faces, but people have the same "Wait, that's not right" reaction to a bad hand as a bad face. Just, never draw hands.
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User #222551 - 25 Mar 20 03:16
*sigh* I know it! 30 years ago I tried drawing hands - in high school. I made a tongue-in-cheek face after I said it, but noooo you couldn't understand it. You took it for granted that I couldn't fathom it. I know it well enough! Some people never get it even if you hold it up to their face. And this is why I never post here. Some people don't know when they are being obnoxious.
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User #13221362 - 25 Mar 20 12:18
I've actually known quite a few artists who had no problem with Hans, so keep looking, I'm sure you'll find some you can get along with. ;) On a more serious note, hands are difficult to draw, but most artists I know are better at hands than they think they are. They judge themselves on their worst hands, not on their typical hands. I feel like the biggest problem with hands is that even in frames with very little action, hands are frequently doing something. You can practice faces n times and get really good at drawing faces. You can practice drawing a particular pose of a hand n times and get really good at that, but that experience won't help you much for drawing a slightly different pose. It's not like a face where it's just the angle and expression that changes. The face has one pair of joints and everything else is just muscles moving skin a little. The hand has what seems like about 21 joints. Some of those joints can move independently, but for most people at least, others move dependently, and figuring out exactly how that's supposed to look can be rough. Especially if you're one of the artists whose hands work differently. (And there definitely are people who are different in that fashion.)
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egscomics - 25 Mar 20 16:10
Honestly, part of the issue for me is simply that I ink in Illustrator. That many lines in a confined space is difficult to keep smooth and looking well. My settings can be just fine for everything else, but then I have to draw a finger, and it's just "auuugh"
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2020-03-21T03:09:13+00:00
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There we go!

Commentary

I originally planned... Well, not the exact opposite of this. I'm not sure I even want to contemplate what exactly that would be. What I had originally planned, however, was intense looks culminating in simple adorable hand holding.

Then I realized the success of such an approach would hinge on my ability to draw hand holding of adequate quality, possibly while zooming in on it.

My fantabulous comic making vehicle of wonderment immediately stopped in its tracks and shifted direction.

Honestly, I'm not sure which version I would ultimately prefer. The grass might always be greener on the path not driven over by convoluted machinery.

All I know for certain is that there was less close up drawing of hands this way, and I choose to take comfort in that.


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User #57720 - 21 Mar 20 03:10
Kissy face! :)
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User #222551 - 21 Mar 20 07:40
Say it : D'awwww. ^^
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User #333204 - 21 Mar 20 03:16
Hm, have we ever seen them kiss in the main comic or "canon" NP comics?
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User #2878970 - 21 Mar 20 04:34
Awesome! Also Rob Liefeld would approve of this logic. TBH this is more dramatic/awesome.
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User #296020 - 21 Mar 20 03:23
and the shippers rejoice
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User #3248065 - 22 Mar 20 16:45
Hope they experiment with the potions next
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User #9598307 - 23 Mar 20 03:47
This is very good. I approve.
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User #279168 - 21 Mar 20 12:25
BAM ! Saving the lewd stuff for later I see.
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User #534846 - 21 Mar 20 03:17
Well, that escalated quickly. And adorably. :) I have to say, Rhoda taking hold of Catalina's hair and back while Catalina goes for the classic two-arm full-body grasp was a perfect way to do this. There's a lot of passion in that kiss.
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User #10473859 - 21 Mar 20 13:09
You really are quite the writer. Your commentary always gives me a chuckle
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User #825158 - 21 Mar 20 16:34
WHOLESOME AND ROMANTIC. this is super cute and you should feel good about it.
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2020-03-20T04:24:13+00:00
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Wait for it...

Commentary

D'AWWWWWW

Anyway, pardon me while I go and implement a rule in which I avoid conversing with people online or checking news prior to reaching at least a point in comic production in which I can effectively be on autopilot so as to not be derailed so thoroughly mentally that comics are forced to be completely late in the evening.

Autopilots can apply to trains, correct? They're not, like "auto-conductors" or something? Like, a car can have autopilot? Would that be "autodriver"? I guess people just say "self-driving", which seems silly. The car would have to be self-aware to have a "self", so that can't... be... Oh dear lord ARE SELF-DRIVING CARS SENTIENT?! WHAT HAVE WE DONE?! WHO WERE WE TO GIVE CARS LIFE?!

Yeah, you see how easily my brain goes places? It meanders like... A thing... That... Meanders. A tourist in a museum of art? That's not catchy, though. A comparison should be catchy.

Whatever. It's a date. D'aw.

Oh, and there will be a Saturday comic still. That's still a thing.

D'aw.


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User #6453453 - 20 Mar 20 05:42
GOOD!! we love them, omg,
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User #545809 - 20 Mar 20 04:49
They're SO gonna Hold hands
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User #2356961 - 20 Mar 20 06:17
Will they? Or will they just do "something non-specific" conveniently slightly off-panel? (Possibly they are already holding hands off-panel!)
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User #222551 - 20 Mar 20 08:01
Awwww! :D They are so CUTE!
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User #279168 - 21 Mar 20 12:09
SMOOOOOCH !
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User #4544942 - 20 Mar 20 08:28
Dawwww! Also FWIW, conductors don't drive trains, that's the job of a train driver. ("An engineer (American and Canadian), engine driver, loco pilot, motorman, train driver (British and Commonwealth English), is a person who drives a train." I think I prefer motorman, personally.)
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User #2356961 - 20 Mar 20 06:18
A friend of mine has a bumper sticker that says "Honk if you're a self-driving car!"
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egscomics - 20 Mar 20 06:26
They ever get honks?
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User #168573 - 20 Mar 20 06:18
I'm betting she never kissed before. Lots of practice will be required.
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User #57720 - 20 Mar 20 04:28
Hehehehe! Cuuuute. Also, Cars *can* have Autopilot. Look into Tesla's offering. It works almost exactly like autopilot on planes. And trains can have automated conductors, as well.
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User #3563157 - 20 Mar 20 04:36
Trains, especially ones pulled by steam locomotives are less likely to be automated than most other transportation methods however. Probably the only other one less likely to be automated is ships, probably something to do with the steel on steel (and minimal amounts) contact, and lack of brakes like on a conventional vehicle respectively.
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User #57720 - 20 Mar 20 05:07
Diesel locomotives are largely autonomous in Europe, or so I hear. I remember there being a story of a Spanish train (I think?) that made the news because it's autonomous system fucked up.
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User #2356961 - 20 Mar 20 06:16
I recently learned that steam locomotives are sufficiently difficult to automate that even making remote-controlled ones is difficult! The reason that the suitcase-sized model "live steam" locomotives generally are set up to have someone perched on the car behind them, rather than being remote controlled, is not just that riding behind a tiny steam locomotive is fun. It's also that, between making sure that the water level is right and the fire is right and the various other adjustments that one needs to make to keep it running, the remote control ones can only go for a few minutes before needing to be poked at by a human. By contrast, most diesel locomotives are capable of being remotely controlled. Large trains (at least in the U.S.) are usually pulled by several locomotives joined together, and only the front one of those has a driver. The others are just remotely controlled (by wires) from the front one.
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User #222551 - 20 Mar 20 08:00
In Denmark they are still controlled by loco-drivers. I know because I know one loco-driver. He must press a button with his foot all the time and if he doesn't the train stops. It's helps that Denmark is a small country. ;)
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2020-03-17T23:27:45+00:00
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The answer is clearly yes. The only time it's not a date is when outside of time itself.

Commentary

I had a bit of writer's block going into this.

Then I realized Rhoda's lack of experience could be weaponized with dangerous efficiency.


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User #373821 - 17 Mar 20 23:30
They're so adorkable!
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User #296020 - 17 Mar 20 23:33
First date awkwardness
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User #930880 - 18 Mar 20 13:19
Funny that the shier of the two should have the more revealing outfit.
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User #57720 - 18 Mar 20 01:31
OMG panel 2! Cute.
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User #534846 - 17 Mar 20 23:54
There are lots of things about Rhoda that can be weaponized right now. The sheer adorableness of that blush, for example.
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User #6453453 - 19 Mar 20 20:30
gosh, cuuute
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2020-03-14T01:12:10+00:00
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I'll leave what those three were doing up to all y'all.

Commentary

This was posted quite late on a Friday, and I will no doubt need to take extra care to make sure its existence is known on Monday.

After the week I'd had, however, I really, really wanted to have a Friday EGSNP. This was complicated by an emergency repair situation in my home that couldn't be put off (it involved gas).

Technically, the work being done didn't demand my full attention, or even much of it. Believe me, I TRIED telling my brain that.

And so we get a somewhat indulgent and unnecessary addition to the storyline that confirms, yes, Susan would love to see that, and yes, that tail wags.

I feel this is acceptable.


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User #930880 - 14 Mar 20 18:15
You'd think cats were the only tailed creatures who didn't wag when pleased.
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User #296020 - 14 Mar 20 01:21
Susan's clearly got some attraction
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User #298959 - 14 Mar 20 23:47
It's well established that she likes to watch. :D
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User #434371 - 14 Mar 20 01:29
I love that tail wag.
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User #333204 - 14 Mar 20 01:50
They were playing Parcheesi.
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User #57720 - 14 Mar 20 02:02
Yay, back to Susan looking sexy! :)
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User #221926 - 14 Mar 20 13:47
Susan always looks sexy to me.
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User #57720 - 14 Mar 20 17:47
Well, I mean, "back to Susan" and "she's looking sexy" as separate things. She hasn't stopped being sexy. :)
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User #7131461 - 14 Mar 20 04:08
Keep looking! At... for! For the melee hero. Yes.
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User #80558 - 14 Mar 20 01:15
Glad your house didn't explode 👍
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2020-03-12T22:37:30+00:00
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A wild party girl Elliot in a short skirt appears! She says "hi!" What do you do?

A - Say "hi" back.

B - Stutter while blushing

C - Hug hello!

D - Run


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User #4751367 - 12 Mar 20 22:38
B. Definitely B.
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User #9237038 - 12 Mar 20 22:46
A
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User #375613 - 12 Mar 20 23:05
A and B
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User #3600975 - 12 Mar 20 22:38
A
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User #12247662 - 12 Mar 20 22:38
D
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User #3803887 - 12 Mar 20 22:51
A mixed with B?
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User #4403591 - 12 Mar 20 22:57
C
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User #333204 - 12 Mar 20 22:52
I would hope for the courage to do C, but would probably do B. ;)
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User #512075 - 12 Mar 20 22:38
A
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User #13355967 - 12 Mar 20 23:00
D because although I'd normally hug people and say hi, I'd probably get a face full of boob or be slammed in the chest with boob. How do I know that second part? I've had someone who somehow is shorter than me with bigger boobs than me flop into a hug and wow the pressure from her boobs hurt.
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User #222551 - 12 Mar 20 23:02
F : Sweep her up in my arms and say "Hello, my precious." ;)
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User #534846 - 12 Mar 20 23:05
B. This couldn't go any other way.
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User #840563 - 12 Mar 20 22:43
C
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User #3563157 - 12 Mar 20 22:54
Is some combination of C and B possible?
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User #6453453 - 12 Mar 20 22:38
all 4?
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User #9091175 - 12 Mar 20 22:45
E - All of the above
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User #719581 - 12 Mar 20 22:49
B
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User #2966510 - 12 Mar 20 22:38
A
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User #3711785 - 12 Mar 20 22:39
C
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User #837753 - 12 Mar 20 22:42
I guess C is the closest? ;)
Parable - 78 - HD
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2020-03-11T23:26:30+00:00
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Not a Phantom Menace reference.

EDIT - Fixed a minor shadow error

Commentary

Sorry about the delay between comics. Between the clocks changing and technical difficulties, my brain effectively didn't function for comic creation for a bit. It felt like a brick wall in my brain.

Speaking of brick walls in the brain, I'm sure Catalina can relate right now.

I like to think this is less Rhoda being a bit overly forward, and more her not being entirely clear on how to talk to people in these situations, wanting to say something nice in context, and it winding up a bit Over The Top.

But with... Actually, I don't want to say "death of the author". I'm right here, darn it.

What with "who cares what the author says" (that's better), interpret Rhoda at subjective will.


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User #9598307 - 12 Mar 20 04:34
WARNING: CUTENESS OVERLOAD! SYSTEM CRASH!
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User #534846 - 11 Mar 20 23:36
NOW KISS. :)
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User #222551 - 11 Mar 20 23:33
I'm a bit like a lurker, but I read every strip. Keep up the good work even if there is a delay. Awww, Rhoda is red is the face. Actually, I like Rhoda that way, she is so cute when she is embassed. ^^
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User #4342417 - 11 Mar 20 23:34
“And now I see little love heart icons”. Have we moved into a dating sim?
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User #3122648 - 11 Mar 20 23:30
Aww! :D
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User #64330 - 11 Mar 20 23:29
awwww they're adorable
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User #279168 - 12 Mar 20 01:24
PUPPY LOVE WITH A KITTEN !
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User #55660 - 12 Mar 20 10:28
Rhoda isn't being forward as such, but she just had to say it!
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User #57720 - 11 Mar 20 23:48
Oh my gaaaaaawd that's cute.
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User #3448782 - 12 Mar 20 05:43
They are so cute <3. Whatever the dimension and the degree of canon, Rhoda and Catalina will always flirt, won't they? x)
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User #825158 - 12 Mar 20 00:34
SO. FLIPPIN. CUTE.
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User #545809 - 11 Mar 20 23:36
Smoooooth
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User #6453453 - 12 Mar 20 00:06
gay 💖
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User #2598489 - 11 Mar 20 23:36
"Catalina. exe has stopped working"
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2020-03-06T22:45:04+00:00
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In Fable 2, it's considered morally good to eat tofu. Imagine how it would be if angel icons appeared over people's heads every time they ate tofu in real life.

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Just imagining life with with this added quirk makes my head spin. The impact it would have on everything would be ENORMOUS.

But this is a silly game parody, so it's just a thing that happens sometime. Yay!

Tiny Writer's Block

I had a bit of writer's block leading up to this one on account of it not really mattering what they talk about so long as they bond while doing so. There are times when too many options makes it difficult to think of anything, and I found this to be one of them.

I decided the smart thing to do was to occupy myself with other things, and let my mind work in the background on it. This often works, but I don't think it's very effective without the mind being given something more specific, so it didn't really fix the problem.

Eventually, I decided "okay, I have to sit down and think of something somehow, even if I just wind up staring at a blank screen for it."

I figured out what to have them talk about and the whole of the conversation in maybe two minutes.

I mean... It's not always going to be that easy, but NEXT time, I need to remember to try writing even when it feels like I've got nothing. Maybe I do have something hidden that'll manifest once I'm looking at that accursed blank screen again.


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User #222551 - 6 Mar 20 23:23
Making something else usually does it for me too. :)
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2020-03-05T04:14:05+00:00
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I don't know why it was important to--Wait, I know exactly why I wanted them on a bridge. I needed Rhoda to lean on something while looking upward. NEVERMIND I though I had something interesting to say but NOOOOOOO

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I needed something decidedly not-heroic for Susan to be doing in the last panel, and I'd recently been experimenting with changing buttons around in Fallout New Vegas.

Write what you know! And what I know is accidentally hitting friendly non-player characters with sledge hammers. A slight variation, but applicable nonetheless.


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User #279168 - 5 Mar 20 05:49
#FabAbs
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User #930880 - 5 Mar 20 15:30
Reminds me of when I accidentally stole an ash yam in "Skyrim." What's especially ornery is that those are super cheap, but that didn't stop the shopkeepers from fighting me even after I dropped it. I saw no choice but to kill them and pay a guard a fine (for triple homicide). I missed being able to do business with them. All for an accidental click!
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User #221926 - 6 Mar 20 01:23
Should've killed the guard, too. Eliminate all witnesses. (In case you didn't already know, yes, that actually works.)
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I'm not sure if she's actually flying on a broom? She might just be in front of a green screen or something. Granted, she is holding a wand, but that's clearly not Kevin the wand, so who knows how magical it actually is.

And yes, those are dance shoes, which is my favorite part of this for some reason.


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User #57720 - 3 Mar 20 04:25
She is adorkable.
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User #930880 - 3 Mar 20 06:14
Not a tribute to Magical Witch Ashley from the Wario Ware series?
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User #12173777 - 3 Mar 20 06:08
As soon as you mentioned the dance shoes, I thought 'where's the soccer ball?' :)
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User #27442656 - 3 Mar 20 16:57
Such a lovely composition! Very classy & classical. She's ready to dance with the stars.
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User #825158 - 3 Mar 20 04:52
SUPER CUTE.
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User #219557 - 3 Mar 20 04:46
Is there a soccer ball attached to one end of that broomstick?
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User #7131461 - 3 Mar 20 03:51
I am picturing her sitting on a fence after a halloween party, with a friend taking a low-angle photo to give the illusion of flying broom.
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User #168573 - 3 Mar 20 05:24
I prefer the jet-powered vacuum cleaner for my magical midnight rides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT8QkEK0X8U
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User #3704968 - 3 Mar 20 20:10
I like Skuld's better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am6a3W_p6VU at about 1:09
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User #168573 - 3 Mar 20 21:57
As long as she doesn't have to resort to a dustbuster for her flying needs.
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User #3466246 - 3 Mar 20 04:31
Well... she is a ballerina, as I recall.
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User #6453453 - 3 Mar 20 04:09
CUTE
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User #296020 - 3 Mar 20 14:21
Almost like Bewitched's Samantha
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User #837753 - 3 Mar 20 03:50
Ashley the Dancing Witch, she'll make you do the cha cha, the can can, and the macarena!
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User #224183 - 4 Mar 20 19:44
She's *adorable*
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User #66215 - 3 Mar 20 20:36
What can I say? Elliot is a lucky boy :)
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DUN DUN DUN

And I mean DUN

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Cut scenes aren't REALLY your characters forgetting how to play the game they're in! They're just testing the other NPCs! And boy, do those NPCs often fall short, I tell you what. You give them the chance to shine, but no, they just DROP THE BALL right after you give it to them!

I've got nothing for when cut scenes increase your competence, however. That's just characters showing off to spite you.


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User #57720 - 2 Mar 20 23:50
Dan, I think your autocorrect decided to break "cutscene" into two words in the post description. I mention it because "cut scenes" are a completely different thing.
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User #534846 - 2 Mar 20 23:15
I think we've all had days like that, Catalina. :| And yes, Rhoda's silhouette looks amazing.
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User #296020 - 2 Mar 20 21:49
That curvy silhouette of Rhoda's.
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egscomics - 3 Mar 20 03:10
It's conceivable I intentionally exaggerated the movement in certain places. For the sake of plausible deniability, I will claim I mean her hair.
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User #61654 - 3 Mar 20 19:45
Silver "Hero of Melee" silhouettes start showing up on local wagon mudflaps... :)
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A BARD?! Taking LIBERTIES?! Perish the thought!

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Given the pop cultural timing of this, one may fairly assume that this take on bards is inspired by The Witcher, and the bard Dandelion /Jaskier (depending on what version of the stories you're familiar with). I say this is fair because the liberties the bard takes with his stories of the main protagonists adventures are a recurring thing, as are the points of why such liberties are taken.

(I've thus far enjoyed the books more than the show, but that's neither here nor there).

The truth, however, is that my fascination with the idea of a bard following a hero around for stories to tell goes way back to my childhood, and was inspired not by The Witcher, but by another classic of medieval fiction:

Monty Python And The Holy Grail.

Now, Sir Robin's minstrels aren't exactly 1:1 with Dandelion, but in the same stories Racnar (now Ragnar) came from was a bard who wanted to follow the hero around and tell of his adventures. I may or may not have actually referred to him as a bard, though it's possible? I can't recall. If I did, it was probably because there was a bard character in Final Fantasy IV (there was a rich tapestry of nerdy inspiration).

Either way, his role was the same, and it's now amusing to me just how similar he was to Dandelion, whom I only learned of after watching a bit of the Netflix series.

While it's possible I'm forgetting some other inspiration, I can't recall anything other than Monty Python that could have inspired such a character, so I assume I am recalling that correctly.


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User #13630324 - 29 Feb 20 05:12
You should check out my brother {David Weber} fantasy series {first book is Oath
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User #3704968 - 2 Mar 20 05:41
And that song was actually fairly accurate, IIRC, if embarrassing to Bahzell... Great. Now I have to set aside re-reading the Safehold series to re-read the War God series. Thanks, Fairportfan! ^_^
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User #13630324 - 2 Mar 20 06:41
As i was about to say when my phone upgeficket: "...the first is 'Oath of Swords'."
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User #13630324 - 2 Mar 20 06:42
Gotta do what i can for my rotten kid brother's sales...
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User #210424 - 29 Feb 20 04:30
Dragon Heart had a monk following Dennis Quaid's knight around embellishing his accomplishments. Not quite a bard, but...
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User #3704968 - 2 Mar 20 05:47
BTW, according to Google Translate, Jaskier = Buttercup. ^_^
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User #2653894 - 2 Mar 20 20:14
I'm seriously giggling right now. Those facial expressions are awesome.
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User #57720 - 29 Feb 20 01:47
OMG Panel 2 and 3 are the stuff of facial expression legend.
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User #142554 - 29 Feb 20 17:22
Okay in Final Fantasy XIV, there's this bard that has you 'listen to his great tales of you'. I.E. putting you into extremely hard versions of story line fights you have already completed. So that's a game with a long history of bard exaggeration. Oh also he's the lead dev's avatar in disguise.
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User #6528079 - 29 Feb 20 20:20
That sounds like a nice way to include "hard mode" bosses
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User #142554 - 2 Mar 20 14:02
There are generally 3 versions of any boss fight. Normal, then Hard, which is 'he comes back and is pissed'. Extreme, which is 'Tales of your exploits known throughout Eorzea'. Then there are the handful this specific bard does. orz
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User #3704968 - 2 Mar 20 06:30
Also, it's not Liberties, it's License, of the poetic variety. ^_^
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User #13221362 - 1 Mar 20 01:25
I feel like it's worth mentioning that she's picking up on this thing quicker than I had, relatively speaking. I mean, I didn't grow up in a monastery, so it really shouldn't have taken me nearly so long to figure out that newspaper and TV reporters weren't bound by strict vows of accuracy. And I didn't get the point about bards until I read of the Song of Roland when I was around 20.
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User #930880 - 29 Feb 20 01:14
Come on. If bards were bound by vows of accuracy, they'd all be out of business. :P
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User #55660 - 29 Feb 20 09:38
"She was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp, or to have her eyes plucked out, and her elbows broken!"
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Standard medieval city stuff.

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Wascally wabbit!

...That's all I've got.


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User #168573 - 27 Feb 20 03:42
Only the fifth bunny girl? Must be in the deserted section of the city.
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User #837753 - 27 Feb 20 10:47
there's probably at least 7, but 2 of them are off with Blacksmith Elliot.
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User #13221362 - 27 Feb 20 23:47
Considering we don't know how long they've been walking, nor how many have passed by without Rhoda noticing, it's hard to say if that's a lot or not. It could be that there's a whole flock of them just off panel behind them that Rhoda completely missed. And that's just for starters. Also, we didn't see them leave the tavern, so they could've just popped out the back while Susan was heading for the front, and she's just barely far enough for the back of the tavern to be off-panel in the first panel. Her words *sound* like they've travelled a while, but I think I've played an RPG in which the player has a companion that comments on how huge the (quite small for anything but a video game) city is after you're in the city with them for about 5 minutes. That's just long enough that someone doing their best to cover the distance can get all the way across to the other side. Or long enough for me to get distracted right by the entrance, such that the companion only took a few steps inside and then stopped and stood there for five minutes.
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User #168573 - 27 Feb 20 18:40
How about a few squirrel girls: https://www.collectedcurios.com/SA_1144_small.jpg
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User #930880 - 27 Feb 20 03:53
I've gotten my fill of bunny girls from "Dragon Quest XI" lately.
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User #57720 - 27 Feb 20 09:35
How could Jade alone possibly fulfill one's desire for bunnygirls? It's inconceivable!
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User #930880 - 27 Feb 20 14:49
She's hardly alone! Every town has at least one.
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User #296020 - 27 Feb 20 03:42
inb4 we see bunny girl Rhoda
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User #57720 - 27 Feb 20 09:34
Yes PLEASE!
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From EGSNP's Parable

Are those barrels of exposition? I bet they're barrels of exposition. Break them to learn how crafting works.

My apologies for messing up early access on the previous milestone image! Patreon used to ask you to select a minimum tier, and bam, you were set. More recently, if something is tier-locked, you have to select EVERY tier it's applicable to. I forgot that, and accidentally made it so $3 pledges, and ONLY those pledges, could see the previous one a day early. Sorry about that.


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User #57720 - 26 Feb 20 05:06
> Patreon used to ask you to select a minimum tier, and bam, you were set. Dude, they changed that like a year ago, lol. Old habits die hard, I guess.
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User #4544942 - 26 Feb 20 04:36
I'm just going to say that it's nice that we're seeing milestone images again. The gaps between them have been fairly long in the last year or so, and I do enjoy them a lot.
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User #837753 - 26 Feb 20 04:19
I'm suddenly picturing a Donkey Kong style game where she's in the role of Donkey Kong, but instead of being the villain, she's protecting the princess/prince/love interest/etc from kidnappers by chucking barrels at them.
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User #534846 - 26 Feb 20 04:22
I'd play that. I'd play the heck out of that. :)
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User #825158 - 26 Feb 20 06:18
It's a tower defense/physics game! Set up your tower with crazy barrel-ricocheting runs and let the booze fly to keep the (extremely niche royal title here) safe!
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User #837753 - 26 Feb 20 21:29
Alternatively the game could be just her protecting the tavern from rowdy drunks. "I said you're cut off! " ::chucks empty barrel::
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User #168573 - 27 Feb 20 05:09
She should team up with Elliot from Questionable Content.
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User #221926 - 28 Feb 20 02:05
Come to think of it, though she's probably taller, her body type reminds me of Tai in that strip where she and Elliot were comparing muscles.
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User #825158 - 26 Feb 20 06:19
I still seriously love her design.
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User #221926 - 28 Feb 20 02:05
She's seriously badass.
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"Also, chicken wings!"

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If I had to justify Susan agreeing to this (and I do, someone's bound to comment), this is another cut scene scenario. Susan began a conversation with the wrong NPC and inadvertently started a mini-game.

There is bartender mini-game in Fable 2, and I think it was just pressing a button at the right time to slide a drink? I'm not sure. I didn't care for it, much. Maybe it was more "realistic" than finding loot on every enemy, but from a gameplay perspective, it was a terrible idea, as things were set up so you likely had to play at least one of the mini-games to get your gold going, and that's so not what the core mechanics of the overall game are.

Whatever it is you're doing most often as gameplay, that's what should get you your rewards, however silly or unrealistic it might seem to nitpickers.


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User #221926 - 25 Feb 20 01:43
Eh, some of us enjoy those bits of the game. My favorite chapter of Dragon Quest 4 is chapter 3, the bit about Taloon, the weapons merchant. At the very beginning of the game, you can both get some gold as well as access to more powerful weapons than you would otherwise have access to by simply sitting behind the counter and saying "yes" over and over again (unless someone sells you this one kind of sword, the name of which I've forgotten, which you want to refuse to sell so it stays in the shop inventory and you ca buy it later). Most people just found it weird, but I like playing merchants in my RPGs.
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User #6453453 - 24 Feb 20 20:42
...Susan looks so good here....
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User #7131461 - 25 Feb 20 00:29
Being a longtime fan of RPGs... yes. Gameplay is great. Wolves dropping cash is just skipping the middle bit of harvesting fur and other bits and dragging them back to town and selling them. But... I do like having options. I'd love to just scare off the wolves and they'd find easier prey elsewhere. Slaughtering a hundred creatures on a trail to anywhere shouldn't be normal.
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User #434371 - 25 Feb 20 04:02
Never mind the complete nonsense that, after becoming a Hero Of Whatever, and building up your rep all over the place, you still get waylaid by random road bandits. You'd think at some point they'd realize that was stupid and go in search of easier prey. Just once, I'd love to see one or more of the bandits watch you completely decimate their co-bandits, and go "nope!" and run off or surrender. Elder Scrolls has the same problem: here you are clad in the *remains of dragons you have defeated*, famed throughout the land a the Dragonborn, a dragon-slayer, a weapon on your back bigger than *they* are, and these half-wits try to take your purse. It's like: "do you have any idea who I am?"
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User #7131461 - 25 Feb 20 10:27
Exactly! So many games that just fill up with suicidal idiots. Gods, when I got through punching like 20 cultists in Metro Exodus and the last handful just surrendered... my jaw dropped and my heart sang. I could just walk up to the rest, do non-lethal takedowns, rob them, and continue on my way... and major plot points would be like "well, he didn't kill us, so maybe we just let them GTFO?"
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User #13221362 - 25 Feb 20 14:04
Pardon me while I don't bother actually drawing that weapon because I can defeat you with one pinkie and it really doesn't like me getting the blood of the useless on it.
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User #306173 - 26 Feb 20 00:55
Pokemon SM iirc has a grunt watch you beat down the rest of the base and decide not to fight you, which was nice, given that he is the only one in the entire series to have the 2 braincells needed to make that decision.
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User #930880 - 24 Feb 20 19:38
Your last paragraph seems to be against mini-games in general. I don't begrudge a game some variety, provided it's not monotonous and unavoidable. Heck, the fishing in "Ocarina of Time" was more popular than other contemporary fishing sims.
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User #7131461 - 25 Feb 20 00:23
If they'd put that into Fable 2, this complaint wouldn't be a thing. :D
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User #802428 - 25 Feb 20 05:40
It's not so much "against mini-games" as it is "against being forced to play mini-games." See, in Fable 2, there are only three ways to make money: get a job, trading, and real estate. Two of these require that you have enough spare gold to actually DO that, so in the early game, your options are to either play a laggy mini-game for a really boring amount of time, or buy whatever cheap property you can (unlikely at that point), switch off the game and go do something else for a few days while the gold comes in. Eventually, you'll be invested in enough real estate that even with prices set to the lowest possible point, money is just a non-issue, but the problem is that first part - where you are FORCED to play a minigame, regardless of your feelings on minigames. They're not even very good minigames...
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User #57720 - 24 Feb 20 19:46
"Abs for days" :)
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"In my defense, your behavior put me in Favorite-Cool-Aunt-Mode."

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Image reuse?! I would never do such a thing! HOW DARE YOU

In all seriousness, it's something I should do more often when it makes sense to. It often doesn't work, but when it does, well... I has loooooots of comics to make o_o;

In any case, YES, SUSAN, THAT WAS A LAPSE IN JUDGEMENT.

BE SURE TO THANK CATALINA LATER.


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User #296020 - 21 Feb 20 19:53
Susan's outfit is nice
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User #224183 - 4 Mar 20 20:30
I am going to steal "Favorite Cool Aunt Mode", thx in advance
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User #57720 - 21 Feb 20 20:44
Star Trek Susan returns! :)
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Squee

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SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What? I'm allowed to get hyped about these two going on a first date in a non-canon scenario.

I'm not sure carriage-wrecks would really be a thing. I mean, surely they could happen, but as far as "with great enough frequency to used as an example in a sentence" is concerned, I'm sort of thinking not realistically? Maybe I'm underestimating the frequency of carriage-wrecks.


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User #21885563 - 20 Feb 20 05:22
"I'm not sure carriage-wrecks would really be a thing." Oh, they were, they were, judging from period works like The Count Of Monte Cristo. Rich young hotbloods have been street racing since streets and wheels were a thing.
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User #2429515 - 24 Feb 20 23:40
Probably even before that. Probably in nomadic tribes, the scions of the ruling families would run beasts of burden to exhaustion.
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User #333204 - 19 Feb 20 23:23
Rhoda looks especially puppy-like in panel 3.
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User #3466246 - 20 Feb 20 01:35
Dogs and cats, living together... mass hysteria!
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User #930880 - 19 Feb 20 23:11
I wonder what metaphor English speakers actually used before "train wreck."
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User #825158 - 19 Feb 20 23:13
"horse kerfuffle"?
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User #333204 - 19 Feb 20 23:24
Just plain "wreck"?
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User #6005855 - 19 Feb 20 23:43
They used to use words like catastrophe or cataclysm, (Glares at Dan for ignoring the pun potential)
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User #57720 - 19 Feb 20 23:00
Carriages were *incredibly* prone to wrecking. Remember how, in Oregon Trail, you needed to bring a bunch of extra axels, since yours would break so much? Before they had rubber wheels to absorb a lot of the roads' inconsistencies, the wooden wheels and axels would break often.
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User #930880 - 19 Feb 20 23:12
But were carriages prone to crashing into each other at high speed?
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User #4884084 - 19 Feb 20 23:52
Define "high speed". By our standards? certainly not. By carriage standards? I imagine so, given the general absence of traffic laws at the time (look at almost any footage of traffic from India for an idea of what happens when the drivers on the road are more interested in going places than sharing the road safely).
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User #7131461 - 20 Feb 20 04:54
About all you need for a collision is "some traffic" and "some idiot"... who may be inebriated. I think the modern drunk driving laws came about because of the increased lethality of motor vehicles.
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User #13221362 - 22 Feb 20 01:17
You don't *even* need "some idiot" to be on the road in any sense, and you don't need alcohol involved. Carriages are/were notably difficult to turn. I mean, they weren't harder to turn than they looked like they'd be, but stop on a dime and turn readily they did not. At around 3-5mph or so, their turn radius is similar to a car, as demonstrated by the horse drawn carriages around here navigating the streets. But that's not their top speed; they slow down to that speed or maybe a bit less to be able to turn. Note that these carriages are pretty much never in a real hurry; they're strictly a tourism thing. Add in to the mix impatient nobles, and you have carriages overdriving their visibility range, without the drivers necessarily realizing it. They're also making enough noise that they can't make out the noise of the other carriages.
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User #279168 - 20 Feb 20 01:24
D'awww !
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Susan didn't know if she actually needed to maintain her fitness in any way that didn't involve experience points and potions while in the game world, but she thought it might be a fun experience to do some heavy lifting either way.

This was voted on before Parable Susan went all "evil", but I figured plenty of people would also want to see evil Susan in color and working out, so I made an alternative version of it.


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User #825158 - 25 Feb 20 04:07
Susan abs and Canon color for the hair and horns - delights all around!
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User #6453453 - 25 Feb 20 07:45
*extremely gay for this..*
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User #57720 - 25 Feb 20 04:59
Hnnnngggggg.... (I am totally quoting Susan's own workout grunts, and not at all anything else)
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User #7131461 - 25 Feb 20 10:15
's weird how horns got associated with "evil". Considering species that grow them are vegetarian.
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User #6528079 - 25 Feb 20 13:21
Goats. Just... Goats. People think that Geese are bad, but "Untitled Goat Game" would have had you summoning Baphomet to devour innocent and guilty alike within the first level.
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User #3442860 - 25 Feb 20 14:05
James, that's a thing you can do in Goat Simulator.
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User #221926 - 26 Feb 20 00:45
I really wish it were somehow possible to find out how that whole thing got started. Sheep vs. Goats. I feel like there must have been two nations of herdsmen, one of which were sheep nomads, the other of which were goat nomads. They fought bitterly for generations over grazing and water rights in a common range, until the sheep nomads won, increased in population until they had little choice but to settle down, and retained an ancestral memory of the goat as the symbol of "the bad guys." Totally made that up, of course. Wish I could know the actual truth.
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User #4884084 - 26 Feb 20 23:31
Do not quote me on this, but I assume it comes from how having cloven hooves is one of the qualifiers for "unclean" animals that you're not supposed to eat.
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User #221926 - 26 Feb 20 00:41
Hoo! I missed this update somehow. ... wow. <3
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User #296020 - 25 Feb 20 13:59
Fantastic pics
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User #9598307 - 25 Feb 20 05:23
mmmmmm, very nice.
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User #930880 - 25 Feb 20 04:09
For me, this is about as hot as Susan gets. The non-evil version, I mean.
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Gluggity glug.

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Does anyone instantly like alcohol on their first try?

I know I didn't. Still don't. I only sorta like it when it's lime-flavored? I've also sort of enjoyed honey-flavored, but I'd have it "on the rocks", by which I mean I would drown it in ice.

Oh, and, um... Yes, this is totally still being a parody, because you can drink in games, and then weird stuff happens, and it's like "why did I do this".

Yes.


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User #61654 - 17 Feb 20 17:30
Two things that helped me get through life on little money were not drinking and not smoking. I'm sure my state misses the tax money....
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User #930880 - 17 Feb 20 15:04
Anyone thinking of the drunk incident in "Skyrim"?
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User #3402322 - 17 Feb 20 17:14
I did but I started with Long Islands
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User #222551 - 17 Feb 20 06:32
When I drank my first beer (a very light beer) I didn't like it. I think I was 13 or 14 at the time. It takes some getting used to like Catalina says. ^^
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User #262384 - 17 Feb 20 06:55
The problem with alcohol being somewhat of a social taboo is that people rarely get to explore their palate and learn what they like or not. It's kinda telling when people put "beer" or "wine" or "whiskey" in a catch-all category. There's a reason there's a bazillion kind of them around, and that learning can be somewhat done by getting a variety of samplers e.g. in a brewery. And also be honest with yourself -- first because your tastes change with age, so what you may like now may not be what you like later, and second, stand for yourself if you don't like or don't want to drink. Don't let people push you on that one.
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User #279168 - 17 Feb 20 08:07
I don't drink much anymore, never liked beer. My stuff is hard lemonade, cider, flavored vodkas or mixed drinks.
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User #802428 - 17 Feb 20 12:33
keep going, Rhoda! just keep thinking about all that delicious Melee XP you're getting! XD
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User #825158 - 17 Feb 20 04:34
I hated beer. Still do. On the flip side, my first drink of mead was a case of "ALL THE YES".
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User #57720 - 17 Feb 20 05:08
I liked spirits on my first try. Quite likely because my first drink ever was an AMF. Still hate beer, though. Much too bitter.
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User #4544942 - 17 Feb 20 05:23
This is not to say that you need to try anything you don't want to, but: Fwiw I tend to find that almost anyone can find a beer they really enjoy of they veer of the big standard stuff. Czech dark lagers, especially traditional 3.5-4% ones tend to be really quite sweet, and often suit the palates of people who don't like bitter drinks better. Weizens too are world's removed from average lagers. Out of the main categories of alcohol I've drunk, beer has the widest range, from super sweet to incredibly bitter, from strong intense aromas to flat near water, they can be sour, bitter, fruity, floral, earthy, creamy, almost anything, depending on how they're made. If they weren't all made basically of the same main ingredients and using the same basic process, I doubt many people would categorize them as the "same" drink. =)
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User #4544942 - 17 Feb 20 05:14
Tasting alcoholic drinks as a wee young nipper (small tastes from parents) I can't say I liked it. I did hold off from drinking until I hit 18, legal age here. And after that, I can honestly say I liked beer, especially dark beers at that time, and quickly developed a strong preference for weizens and IPAs (to the extent of brewing my own). I also really liked whisky at the beginning (though you need to get decent stuff, cheap whisky tends to just be plain bad), but after a while developed a gag reflex when even sniffing spirits. Was over 10 years before I could properly try them again. Thankfully it passed, and I fell back in love with whisky.
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User #229526 - 17 Feb 20 04:31
No, didn't care for beer especially. I tried 3 different types of beer when I was legally allowed, and hated all of them. Wine Coolers were OK, but inferior to most other flavored fruit drinks. The only alcohol beverages I've actually liked are Rum, and Galliano.
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User #12173777 - 17 Feb 20 05:02
Totally do not like alcohol. I'll take a Pepsi any day :)
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User #481846 - 17 Feb 20 17:24
I'm not much for beer, but fortunately come from a region which appreciates sweet and foxy wines.
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User #221926 - 17 Feb 20 16:00
I don't really get people who immediately chug a new beverage. On the one hand, you'd think caution was warranted. On the other, there are enough beverages that simply aren't meant to be chugged (hot coffee or tea, good whisky, wine, etc.) that one really shouldn't assume a new beverage is a gulping beverage.
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User #66215 - 17 Feb 20 20:50
Don't mind the occasional cider but not a fan of beer, and rarely drink.
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User #2997943 - 18 Feb 20 15:11
I immediately liked wine? I still dislike beer, and would rather drink water. Also, cocktails. There's a cocktail for everyone.
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User #283436 - 17 Feb 20 04:34
I don't drink, personally, but I can only really stomach coffee when I've mixed it half and half with hot chocolate, so I expect I'd have a similar reaction to alcohol
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User #8596918 - 17 Feb 20 04:52
My parents gave me a little of some sparkling fruit wine when I was.. maybe 5? And I loved it and was sad l couldn't have more. But I only like sugary things, whisky rum or vodka. No beer, rarely wine.
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User #17959241 - 17 Feb 20 07:56
Anyone else disappointed that there's nothing special for this magic number?
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User #930880 - 17 Feb 20 15:04
I'm sure Dan would never explicitly depict its namesake.
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User #17959241 - 17 Feb 20 07:55
My first experidrunkence was at an older neighbours birthday with something called Ambrosia, a red wine with honey and spices. I did taste beer before that but nothing I added took the disgusting taste away. I tried fanta, juice, water, cola and probably sugar. When I need a drink, I go for spiced wine, mead or hot cocoa with a shot of absinthe.
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It's probably for the best that Catalina is not an alchemist.

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This is a pretty chill, down-to-earth moment, but we can have those, right? Right?!

Look, if this is too mundane to you, just focus on how ridiculous Catalina's hair is for a bit, alright? Just stare at it for a bit and remember that everything is still ridiculous.

As for what they're talking about, I've been explained the SCIENCE! before, but ultimately all my memory seems to care about is "dehydration is a thing that can happen, drink some water".


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User #6453453 - 14 Feb 20 21:32
we love Catalina's hair so much tbh
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User #375613 - 14 Feb 20 19:58
Usually it's water, then beer.
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User #279168 - 15 Feb 20 00:36
Liquid Bread
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User #61654 - 15 Feb 20 01:19
Rhoda as a rowdy drunk. Film at 11. :)
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User #802428 - 14 Feb 20 20:53
Having looked up the SCIENCE: Ethanol tells your kidneys to make more pee, which uses up more water than usual, which is why you end up dehydrated after drinking booze. As well as needing to pee a lot.
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User #851263 - 14 Feb 20 21:14
IIRC what's actually happening is your body going on high alert and trying to flush the toxic substance out of your system as fast as possible. Because yeah, ethanol is actually toxic - it just has an exceptionally high LD50 compared to substances we usually think of as toxic.
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User #930880 - 14 Feb 20 21:36
Caffeinated drinks are bad for hydration as well.
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User #4884084 - 14 Feb 20 23:36
Probably for the same reason, but I'm no pharmacologist.
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User #57720 - 15 Feb 20 04:28
Actually, it's an myth that soda is a diuretic. It's just less hydrating than drinking the same amount of water.
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User #13221362 - 15 Feb 20 05:50
I recall in college coming across the chemical formula for how human bodies process alcohol. If I recall correctly, it uses seven water molecules for every alcohol molecule. I'm pretty sure most of what makes you pee a lot when you drink beer is other stuff in the beer. The one time I experimented with alcohol, I drank most of a fifth of whiskey, and I didn't really have to go to the bathroom a lot. I've not performed a similar experiment with beer because by the time I found a beer I could actually drink, I had already learned that I can drink roughly a tenth of whiskey over the course of a couple hours and barely feel it. That translates to more beer than I want to buy - especially since even the beer I can drink isn't really something I'd consider palatable.
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Urge... To fill empty space in... Panel three... RISING...

"But that's the whole point."

I KNOW BUT STILL

EDIT - Wrote "live" instead of "life"

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Rich and "Bad" Tom are potentially recognizable, but the woman in the background of panel two isn't based on anyone in particular. I wanted one of the people getting ideas to be a woman, but I haven't yet introduced anyone in canon I would want to put in that role, so I just drew someone with wildly asymmetrical hair for fun (as one does).

How Rhoda Met Catalina

Catalina was originally intended to be the Hero of Magic. There was just one problem: I had literally chosen her for no other reason than Rhoda being the Hero of Melee. I had no story in mind, no twists or anything specifically suited for her character, nothing. Zip.

Then I got an idea for another character taking on that role, and I liked the ideas I had for them a lot, but I still wanted this version of Rhoda to meet a version of Catalina.

So now this is happening.

Also, I gave Catalina way over-the-top cat-ear hair, because why not. I'm having fun with hair.


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User #8513564 - 13 Feb 20 04:07
Typo in panel two: "All my live" should be "all my life". Also, nice gag!
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User #2571364 - 13 Feb 20 04:40
The middle lady in panel two looks rather a lot like the barkeep from the previous page – slimmer build, but the arm position masks that a little, and the hair is quite similar if less shaved.
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User #13221362 - 13 Feb 20 22:31
I think it's the barkeep's daughter. Which is the only reason why she and her friends are still allowed in here.
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User #168573 - 13 Feb 20 05:05
In panel three you could put in "running away very fast" lines.
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User #930880 - 13 Feb 20 15:15
Or dust clouds.
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User #13221362 - 13 Feb 20 22:32
Or both.
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User #6471707 - 13 Feb 20 13:31
I feel like the last panel is missing a few movement air clouds to convey the fact everyone fled when she mentioned the hammer. Still very funny thought :3
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User #4544942 - 13 Feb 20 08:39
I know this is petty, but man that 's' at the end of 'kilos' is bothering me. To me it should work like with pounds, i.e. "this mallet weighs a hundred pounds" but also "this is a 100 pound mallet"... Maybe I'm just insane.
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User #55660 - 13 Feb 20 12:35
No, that's how the terminology usually works.
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User #9303407 - 13 Feb 20 20:41
That's what was bothering me about the sentence! Something felt off about it to me but I didn't put my finger on it until I saw your comment.
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User #4342417 - 13 Feb 20 05:23
Wait, those cat ears are hair? Why? This is fantasy! Don’t tell me there isn’t some kind of cat person race.
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User #13221362 - 13 Feb 20 22:33
Just because there are fantasy cat races doesn't mean there can't also be humans who go to ridiculous lengths to manage their hair in order to resemble those other races that they so much would rather be.
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User #4342417 - 15 Feb 20 04:08
Yeah, but seriously, why would you NOT take the opportunity in a fantasy story to make Catalina a cat person?
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User #825158 - 13 Feb 20 15:17
Unseen Cat thought bubble in panel 3: "...Badass."
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User #332703 - 13 Feb 20 05:31
Kinda expected clouds of smoke and speed lines. Maybe one of them with the "That's my fetish!" grin.
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User #262384 - 13 Feb 20 05:54
On second thought, a naive uneducated hero who can swing a heavy mallet... that could come in handy. Maybe these characters from panel 2 should stick around a bit longer. They can think of something.
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User #12173247 - 13 Feb 20 06:53
Shouldnt rhoda be level 5 in strength if she's the hero of melee?
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User #13221362 - 13 Feb 20 22:36
OMG, not right away! It's like you haven't played these games at all! To be fair, I've not played Fable at all, but if the level cap is only 5, I'd assume the hero of each specialty comes in at level 1 or maybe level 2 at most. However, since there's a visual appearance to the level, they'll physically appear about two levels past what they currently are - which explains Rhoda's abs.
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User #262384 - 13 Feb 20 05:51
I was also expecting some speed lines or a left over dust in panel 3. At first I was totally change-blind and mentally filled the void with the characters from panel 2 as it almost felt like the panel was not finished.
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User #2598489 - 13 Feb 20 04:59
Well, if your not having Catalina be the hero of Magic, maybe she could be the party rogue or thief? Every good adventuring party needs a rogue to disable traps and unlock locks. The hero of slight of hand! ...or something.. Although that might not fit the theme to well, cuz the only Fable mechanic for dealing with traps that I can remember was to just walk over them.
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User #332703 - 13 Feb 20 16:49
Also - maybe instead of blank space, they could all be striking nonchalant poses instead while sweating? Reminded of a bit from one of the Discworld books. Wherein Carrot (a ~7 foot tall man raised by Dwarves, so he's ~350-400 pounds of pure muscle) was walking from the Dwarven country to Ankh-Morpork, he kept running into roughly dressed men who would jump out behind rocks and trees and go "Oh, sorry, wrong person." Because 7 foot tall 350 pounds of muscle travelers don't get mugged, they have very uneventful trips with lots of people mistaking them for someone else over and over again. ;)
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User #28268858 - 17 Feb 20 05:10
Slight nitpic. Carrot is 6' 6", not 7'. His Dwarven name translates to "Head Banger."
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User #13355967 - 13 Feb 20 07:09
If it bothers you enough, you *could* draw a star-like thing to showcase something *will* be there eventually.
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User #802428 - 13 Feb 20 12:20
plus, whiskey gives ranged XP, not melee. You want beer for that. I am absolutely serious, alcoholic drinks in Fable 2 give bonus XP just like potions do. Beer gives Melee, Spirits give Ranged, and Wine gives Magic.
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User #4342417 - 13 Feb 20 08:36
I'm an idiot. It took me this long to figure out the empty space in panel 3 was because everyone had left. Guess I don't consider a super strong naïve former priestess a threat... Maybe you could have put outlines to highlight that everyone had left?
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User #55660 - 13 Feb 20 12:34
Some dust clouds might have helped.
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In which the former monk can only recall the name of the most recent drink she's heard of.

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A WILD CATALINA APPEARS!

It is of no importance whatsoever to the plot, but in my mind, that bartender has gotten into fights with bandits, and that scar on her left arm is from blocking a blade with her left arm, which was immediately followed by punching out the bandit with her right arm.

I have nothing so specific regarding the scars on her scalp and eyebrow, and that missing part of her left ear. Those could just be from pub brawls.

Anyway, don't start trouble in her pub.

Note: That "technically" is nothing sinister. She's just referring to the alcohol itself.


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User #5563192 - 11 Feb 20 09:21
I'm not suggesting transformation beer but....
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User #930880 - 10 Feb 20 18:59
What, you DON'T want her drunk?
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User #11197541 - 10 Feb 20 20:54
There's a world of difference between dead drunk and just plain dead…
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User #168573 - 10 Feb 20 18:37
True story! https://imgur.com/FclGPF1
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User #173229 - 10 Feb 20 18:49
Beefy Barkeep is my new favorite character
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User #293238 - 10 Feb 20 19:40
Agreed, I want her in main story
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User #173229 - 10 Feb 20 20:06
I mean, LOOK at her. Her scars already tell such a story that Dan couldn't help but mention them in the commentary
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User #57720 - 10 Feb 20 18:31
Hahaha, a pitcher of whiskey!!
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User #5321667 - 10 Feb 20 22:31
their meeting each other is consistent throughout every universe.
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User #534846 - 10 Feb 20 23:23
I foresee many suggestions for the bartender in future sketchbooks. :)
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User #221926 - 12 Feb 20 19:36
Or even introducing her to the story comic as a *fifth* recurring adult character. (The other four I can think of being Edward, Adrian, and the Dunkels.)
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User #221926 - 12 Feb 20 19:35
> Note: That "technically" is nothing sinister. She's just referring to the alcohol itself. The fact that a disclaimer like this is necessary is one of the things that makes me weep for the species.
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User #57395 - 10 Feb 20 19:00
That bartender is a pretty great new design, I approve.
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User #442324 - 10 Feb 20 17:51
This bartender needs hugs. She's cool.
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User #13221362 - 11 Feb 20 22:08
This bartender looks a lot like a bartender I knew back in the day who was very explicit about not needing hugs. Just saying, so you know.
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User #442324 - 11 Feb 20 22:14
That's totally fair, and there would be asking before any hugs were provided - or not provided as the case may be.
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User #442324 - 11 Feb 20 22:15
(I stand by her being cool, as that's pure opinion.)
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User #545809 - 10 Feb 20 17:52
Oh Rhoda you sweet summer child. I'll have that pitcher.
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User #296020 - 10 Feb 20 17:50
And commence the AUCatalinaxRhoda shipping
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User #825158 - 10 Feb 20 17:51
OH MY GAWD BEEFY BARKEEP IS AWESOME.
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