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Blog Post: IWI (and IMI) Jericho 941F SAO pistol
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After Israel became a state post WWII, they needed small arms to equip their fledgling military. They used a number of different firearms during these early years ranging from former German WWII 98K Mausers to FN-FAL's. Many of the guns they procured were either given to them as aid or were purchased second hand, including a bunch of Browning Hi-Powers.

Eventually Israel would develop its own indigenous small arms like the famous Uzi, Galil and the Jericho 941 handgun. Guns like the Galil and 941 were more or less clones of well established service weapons developed in other countries. In the case of the Galil, it is a variant of the Russian AK-47 but is a near perfect copy of the Finnish RK62 (which is based on the AK-47 but is more refined). The Jericho 941 is a near perfect clone of the Czech made CZ-75 right down to the fact they use the same magazine.

The CZ-75 is easily one of the worlds most successful 9mm pistols. It was developed in Czechoslovakia in the 1970's during the Cold War. I remember to this day when I read about them in Soldier of Fortune magazine. Robert K. Brown's crew had found one in Afghanistan and did an article about it. I was fascinated by it.

I have to get this out of the way. I'm a HUGE fan of the CZ75. I have actually held, in my very own hands, the very first (serial number 00001) CZ-75 produced.

Ok, ok... Let's take a step back and talk about the pistol featured in this post; the Israeli made Jericho 941F. The "F" in the model designation denotes a frame mounted safety. You will find Jericho 941's without the F designation which have the frame mounted safety as you can see on this recent import from IWI US (pictured below).

I've also toured the IWI factory in Israel and was told the IDF and internal Security Forces only used the frame mounted safety guns. The slide mounted decocker safety guns were developed for commercial sales and were sold in the US by Magnum Research as the "Baby Eagle". These may be found with an assortment of markings, but here's an example with IWI grips and "Desert Eagle" roll marked on the frame.

Here's where things get interesting. Most gun collectors don't know that the IWI Jericho 941 had a version that was Single Action Only (SAO). Most believe only a Double Action/Single Action (DA/SA) was produced. You can spend hours Googling "single action only Jericho 941" and you'll get an assortment of posts from people across countless forums. The general consensus is that such a gun doesn't exist or most people have never heard of one.

I think by now you know the SAO 941F does in fact exist, but why does it exist you may ask?

That's a fair question. I don't know that I can answer "why" both a DA/SA and SAO only version exist vs. simply one or the other. But I can answer why guns used by internal Security Forces (including police) exists with only the single action functionality.

When Israel was using the Browning Hi-Power there really wasn't a safe way to carry the gun loaded and ready to fire like we commonly carry handguns today. Even during my time in the Marine Corps we never carried our 1911's with a round chambered and the safety on (cocked and locked). We carried them with a full magazine inserted with an empty chamber and the hammer down. Carrying a pistol with an empty chamber was a common practice for many of the worlds militaries since the invention of self loading handguns.

I know some of you will ask, "Why did you have 1911's, didn't you serve when the M9 was being issued?" A long story short: many Marine units continued to use 1911's when the rest of the Fleet used M9's. I served in Marine Corps Security Forces (MCSF) which used MEU(SOC) pistols that came about starting in 1985. The M45A1 was the last MEU(SOC) pistol to be adopted.

The Israeli's couldn't carry the Hi-Powers with a round in the chamber with the hammer down safely as the guns don't have a firing pin safety. They didn't feel they could carry them safely with a round in the chamber and the hammer back with the manual safety on because the safeties didn't have positive detents. The 1911 has a very positive click when going from either fire or safe and the detent keeps the safety lever securely in place. The Hi-Power doesn't have this detent system. So, they carried them with an empty chamber and a full magazine inserted.

The Israeli's came up with the famous "Israeli method" of drawing, loading and shooting their pistols. You can see this being demonstrated in my video from 2013 when I toured IWI. If you click here it will take you to the video and the part where the IDF operator uses the famous method with his 941 pistol.

What I found curious was why they were still using this system of carry and deployment. The original 941 was purposely designed as a DA/SA pistol which means it is safe to carry with the chamber loaded and the hammer down. The only thing the IDF version of the 941 lacks is a decocker (which the Baby Eagle does have).

Initially the Security Forces that wanted the SAO option were obviously using the "Israeli method" of carry and saw no use for the DA option therefore sought to disable it for their troops. Armorers initially took standard DA/SA 941's and converted them to SAO. Later IWI would make guns that were SAO right out of the factory. The armorer conversion guns can be identified by an extra roll pin just in front of the trigger pivot pin that is used as a stop to prevent the trigger from returning all the way forward to its DA position.

The gun I have is a factory SAO made gun. It also bares the Star of David on the right side of the frame. This means it was likely used by Police.

With the exception of the SAO trigger, the gun shares every part with the standard 941.

Just like the CZ-75 it borrows so heavily from, the Jericho 941 uses full length inverted slide rails and the original has steel upper and lower assemblies making it a very heavy, but robust, service pistol. A polymer frame 941 is also available on the US market.

Actually, the 941 has even more rail than the CZ-75 because it extends to the muzzle whereas the CZ-75's stops about 1.5" before the end of the barrel. You can see the two pistols side by side in this next photo (CZ-75 right, Jericho 941F left).

Disassembly of the 941 is identical to the CZ-75 and incredibly simple. The only thing more simple is a modern day gun like a Glock which lacks the cross pin borrowed from John Browning's designs (1911 and Hi-Power). As you can see, the parts are big, well made and well suited for a conscript Army.

You'll also note that the gun I have wears the IWI (Israeli Weapons Industries) emblem while you will also find SAO 941's with the IMI (Israeli Military Industries) emblem. What's the difference? All small arms manufactured for IDF and Security Forces used in Israel were originally made by IMI. That's why you'll see IMI marked pre-89 guns like the Uzi, Galil, 941, etc. In 2005 the Israeli government decided to split their small arms manufacturing away from IMI and privatize it. IMI still exists but builds everything except small arms (tank guns, missiles, anti-tank weapons, vehicles, etc.) and is a state owned company.

What's neat is that I found this 941F recently on the Classic Firearms site. I got the email and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Until this point I hadn't seen a SAO 941 on the market. I know they've come in previously in small shipments, but they're so rare that as I mentioned above, many people don't know they exist.

If you're a military collector, here's a chance to own a relatively rare variant of the 941. The gun I have here is likely a nicer specimen than what you might get if you were to order one. I placed the order like anyone else would, and selected the "hand select" option for $25 extra. In full disclosure, Classic saw my order, recognized my name and refunded my money. As you know, I don't go around asking companies for free stuff.

The fact they refunded my money won't change what my opinion of the firearm is, or if I manage to break it that I won't show the failure on video. You know I will.

Stay tuned for the video! If you have any questions or if you know more about the history of this gun, please post below. I love the fact many of you know more about various things than I do and it really helps me when it comes time to make videos.

(NOTE: Patreon is broken right now so this blog post is available to everyone! :D It gives folks an idea of what some of the extra content is as a perk.)

Tim


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User #5956849 - 12 Jan 20 18:47
Thanks Tim just ordered one from C F.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 23:54
Enjoy, I hope they send you a nice one.
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User #10513535 - 12 Jan 20 08:32
the 941f was my first pistol. it was my edc for 17 years. it fed any kind of emmo. and was very accurate. the israeli police replaced the jericho 941 with glock 19. but still in a shooting competitions a lot of israeli policeman prefer the jericho. (i live in israel..)
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 16:38
I would prefer the Jericho in shooting competitions too.
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User #5647051 - 12 Jan 20 02:48
that's the 2nd gun I ever personally bought!
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:37
One of the SAO guns? I think it's a very cool variant.
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User #10514066 - 12 Jan 20 03:37
Do not own a CZ. Guess I will have to go get one.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 04:07
If you collect military handguns, or if you're just looking for something other than a polymer striker fired gun that's super ergonomic, is affordable and you'll find you likely shoot better than most other guns you try, nab a CZ-75 or one of its variants. :D
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User #6401075 - 12 Jan 20 02:26
You've sold me on an SA 941, but I just got one of their Euro LE trade-in West German made SIG P226... Can't swing another firearm, especially since I'm saving for an M1.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:48
I know man... So many guns and so little money. If I were a billionaire I would have the worlds largest playground for gun enthusiasts.
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User #6425982 - 12 Jan 20 02:39
My Desert Eagle is IMI stamped. It's a "never sell" ...
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:40
That means it was made before 2005, which is awesome! I have an old IMI I'll break out soon that is a kit with .41AE and 9mm... and I have some .41AE rounds. The .41AE was such a cool round, it's a shame it disappeared. It had the power of a 10mm in several factory loads and was a drop in conversion for a few 9mm pistols like the Hi-Power. You replaced the barrel, recoil spring and magazine and you had a 10mm. I wish it would come back.
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User #14936047 - 12 Jan 20 02:36
Stuff like this is exactly why I started watching your channel Tim.
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User #14936047 - 12 Jan 20 02:36
Does the Jericho have the ridiculously long SA trigger pull like the CZ 75?
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:50
It has a short travel for the break but a lot of over travel (for the DA/SA 941). The SAO has a bit shorter distance to break and less over travel. It has a really nice trigger on the SAO.
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User #5828101 - 12 Jan 20 01:44
my friend got one of the service pistols with IMI on it. 9mm $350. i almost traded him my glock 17 gen 4 with 6 mags (around $650 invested in my carry gun) FOR his $350 jericho because i could shoot 30yard torse EVERY! SINGLE! SHOT! he couldnt shoot it as well as me (because out eye sight is derpy). every hit i made with it i said SORRY!! i felt SOOO bad i was shooting this thing like i was a competition shooter! IT FIT ME PERFECTLY! only reason i didnt do the trade was be wasnt interested and it only had 2 mags. thanks buddy!
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:41
The 941 is even more ergonomic in my large hands than the CZ-75. That hump at the bottom of the grip looks goofy, but it really makes an improvement in the ergo's for me.
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User #5828101 - 12 Jan 20 03:58
100%. big long fingery hands. hell i loved the feel of a 10mm. just like thick handled pistols!
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User #3293492 - 12 Jan 20 14:03
I wish CZ would make a retro model of that early variant with the scant/slim slide! The 941 is akin to if a Desert Eagle and CZ-75 had a baby - has some Desert Eagle styling to it and CZ mechanics. If you are a fan of either - get one. they don't make them like this often anymore - It was made when people feared polymer guns were perceived as cheap plastic.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 17:00
They did many years ago. I had the chance to buy one but didn't have the money. There were only 100 made.
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User #14843187 - 12 Jan 20 13:25
so sexy pistol
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User #8478266 - 12 Jan 20 02:27
Dang it Tim...
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User #12294116 - 12 Jan 20 08:19
My friend has got one, I'd say its an amazingly accurate and low recoil handgun. Love me some CZs
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 16:38
They earned their reputation for good reason. :D I love them as much as 1911's.
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User #6339929 - 12 Jan 20 03:41
I ordered one from Classic and picked it up yesterday! I love unique LEO surplus guns.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 04:06
They had both the DA/SA and the SAO, which did you get? Did you get one of the nickel guns or the parked gun like mine?
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User #6339929 - 12 Jan 20 04:44
I went with a parked SAO with police star. I stayed with just the “good” and no hand select because I wanted one with more character from being carried.
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User #2483995 - 12 Jan 20 19:13
Hey Tim do you know if the "Brushed Steel" model they are selling is actually stainless steel or is that just a surface finish? I've been trying to get an answer to that but have yet to find one.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 23:55
I've read they used a nickel finish, but I've not held one. If you see any signs of flaking around the edges, that would indicate nickel. If it's not nickel I highly doubt they "brushed" carbon steel as it would almost instantly rust without any finish.
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User #2483995 - 13 Jan 20 01:12
I thought maybe that was the case too, but the nickel finish one has a separate page and the blued & brushed steel selections are on a separate single page. So I'm not sure.
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User #7872084 - 13 Jan 20 05:30
I bought the "Satin Nickel" 941F a few months ago and it is PHENOMENAL. I actually spent some time cleaning it up over Christmas because it was an Israeli police trade-in and had some wear on it. When I was finished, my brother was blown away - he said it looked brand new (even though I still have some more work to do on it with some Flitz). It is an AWESOME shooter. Smooth as butter, extremely accurate, and the trigger is 2.5 - 3 pounds...
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User #7360622 - 12 Jan 20 02:33
This content is some of the best Tim! I love how you delve into history of firearms and how it relates to your life. I know blog post likes these probably take just as long as a video if not longer but to me they are GOLD!
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:49
Thanks man, and you're right. It took a couple of hours to pull it all together.
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User #10009233 - 12 Jan 20 01:48
Borrows heavily? The Chinese would be hard pressed to make such a close rip-off ...er.....I mean copy.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:42
Haha, well, externally it's quite different. You won't be swapping slides or barrels on them. But yeah, it's a CZ-75 by another name.
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User #10009233 - 12 Jan 20 03:43
Yes 👍👍for the SP-01
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User #8319094 - 12 Jan 20 04:31
I've wanted one of these for a while, but I ended up getting a CZ-75. If classic has these for 350 bucks I may have to get one anyway, especially if it will share mags with my 75
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User #6060168 - 12 Jan 20 07:14
Great article!
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 16:37
Thank you.
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User #5632539 - 12 Jan 20 02:28
I wanted one of these, but the SAO turned me off. I own two Jericho 941s and two CZ-75s, I love all of them, I will be looking forward to your review.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:49
Because it's kind of rare and it's a legit service pistol, I really couldn't believe I got one. I know they're odd but if you already have a 941 and a CZ75 this would be a cool addition just for the novelty of it.
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User #23345996 - 12 Jan 20 01:50
Great read, very informative and insightful for me to learn this history. I am also a CZ-75 lover.
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militaryarms - 12 Jan 20 03:43
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Can you believe I got to handle the first CZ75 ever made? That is a memory I'll never forget.
This is the stuff that really yanks at your heart strings
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The man in the article above is a viewer of our channel. He contacted me through our public email address and I just found it this morning. It takes me a while to sort through the public emails and I only do it when I have time. I prioritize Patreon emails and messages above all others.

This man went to the clinic for what he thought was the flu and found out he had ARDS, or scaring of the lungs. If you read the article, it states that most of the time when you hear of a otherwise healthy person dying from the flu, it's because they have ARDS and didn't know it. Roughly 43% of those with the condition die from it.

He contact me to say thank you for our videos as they helped him through is months long recovery.

Just like the story I shared with you about Cory, the man suffering from Sarcoma that we went to spend time with recently, this story yanks on my heart strings.

When you make YouTube videos it's hard to imagine that literally 3 million + people watch our videos every month. When you hear stories like this it really humbles you and helps to put things into perspective. I wish I could visit with everyone suffering through everything from depression to battling for their lives because of some illness.

Deep personal story to follow.

When I was 8 years old my father died of lymphatic cancer. He likely got it from decades of smoking and drinking (one of the many reasons I do not drink alcohol or smoke). I didn't even know my dad until I was 5 years old because he and my mom divorced when I was 2. My mom decided when I was 5 that I could go visit my dad in California. I only got 3 trips before he became seriously ill. The doctors took half of his jaw in a failed effort to stop the cancer. In the end my dad didn't want to see me because he was so self conscious about the way he looked. He didn't know that I didn't care about how he looked, I just wanted to be with him.

Some 40+ years later just typing the above story brought a tear to my eye.

I'm happy this story seems to end happily as he appears to be making a full recovery.

We couldn't continue to make our videos with out you, our Patreons. Thank you so very much for making what we do possible.

From me and my wife and three boys, I hope you have a very Merry Christmas tomorrow.

Tim


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User #5010588 - 24 Dec 19 16:57
Merry Christmas!
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User #7180299 - 24 Dec 19 16:28
Merry Christmas, everyone!
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User #3436483 - 24 Dec 19 17:10
Tim, I can relate. My father passed from mesothelioma when I was 8. But, sad stuff aside, merry Christmas to you all!
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:19
Cancer has touched all of our lives. When we came home from our honeymoon, my wife learned her mother had pancreatic and liver cancer. She lived for 2 years after her diagnosis. She lived long enough to see one of her grandsons. Life is strange, painful, and full of curve balls. But life is good. Merry Christmas all.
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User #10397726 - 24 Dec 19 16:29
Merry Christmas, ya’ll!
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User #7463851 - 24 Dec 19 16:49
Dang it Tim, I didn't need to get all teary eyed today lol! Thanks for sharing, it's crazy to imagine that everyone you'll ever see is living a life at least as complicated as your own, stories like these just make it seem crazier.
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:15
Agreed. I teared up thinking about what could have been if my life had my dad in it. I wish he could see his grandsons... My father passed in December and for 20 some years I refused to celebrate Christmas. Then a wonderful women came into my life and everything changed. Now I have a family, I quit drinking and I have so much to live for. Every day on this planet is a blessing. Merry Christmas everyone.
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User #5649166 - 24 Dec 19 16:36
Merry Christmas, Tim and Jason! Enjoy the season and hug your families tightly.
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:13
Agreed, never lose sight of whats truly important, our loved ones. Merry Christmas to all!
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User #9397599 - 24 Dec 19 17:06
Merry Christmas and God bless Tim, your family, and Jason and his family.
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User #6796421 - 24 Dec 19 16:44
Is there some way we can help or contribute to this dude and his family ?
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:13
He didn't mention anything in his email, he was very humble and just said "Thank you for helping me pass time while I recovered."
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User #7376729 - 24 Dec 19 17:01
Merry Christmas to you and family. Your strength of character shows through in your work. Your boys are watching and learning. Strong work.
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:17
Thank you, JC. It means a lot. Thank you for supporting our families and our work. It means the world to us. Merry Christmas to all!
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User #5640739 - 24 Dec 19 17:04
Merry Christmas to all and thanks for sharing all these stories. Look forward to your next videos.
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User #9278475 - 24 Dec 19 16:44
Merry Christmas to you and your family members and friends
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User #6097334 - 24 Dec 19 17:13
Thanks Tim & Jason, I hope the Patreon income has stabilized for you. I increased my contribution about a buck awhile ago. I would really hate to see your channel fade away because of lack of support. Merry Christmas, hopefully support from our community grows as time goes on.
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:20
Sadly it hasn't stabilized yet. I pray every night it will. I don't even ask for growth, just stabilization. Hopefully we will find that soon. Thank you all for supporting us in our work. It means everything to us and our families. Merry Christmas.
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User #10370566 - 24 Dec 19 16:49
Merry Christmas Tim and Jason. To your familys, your friends, your friends, loved ones, and patreons. God bless everyone.
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:16
Same to you, brother. Merry Christmas to all.
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User #9260126 - 24 Dec 19 16:51
Merry Christmas for everyone
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User #9425474 - 24 Dec 19 16:32
Love you, Tim. God bless you and yours and I hope you have a very blessed Christmas!
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:12
Thank you, we love you all right back. Merry Christmas!
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User #11596813 - 24 Dec 19 16:56
Yes, stories like this pull at the heart strings. I think it's Great that he seems to be making a full recovery. Thank you for sharing part of your personal life story with us. Merry Christmas Everyone.
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:17
You all are part of our family. Without you we couldn't make the content we do, or fight for our 2A rights, or even feed our families. Without our Patreons, MAC would be a memory and we would be homeless. We really can't thank you all enough. Merry Christmas!
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User #7872084 - 24 Dec 19 16:29
Merry Christmas, Tim! Thank you for all that you do!
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militaryarms - 25 Dec 19 01:12
Thank you, and all of our Patreons, for allowing us to do what we do. Merry Christmas!
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User #8983972 - 24 Dec 19 16:44
These stories, as well as memories of my parents, bring tears to my eyes, also.
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User #12240550 - 24 Dec 19 16:31
Merry Christmas to you and your families. Love you all.
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User #6356517 - 24 Dec 19 16:48
Merry Christmas!
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Here's where we stand on the current bump stock lawsuit that I'm part of. We're suing the government because of their reinterpretation of the NFA law and how they applied it to bump stocks.

I'm not sure where this will end, but so far it not looking very good. If we lose here, we will appeal and take it to the SCOTUS.

I'm traveling today but I'll try to answer any questions that I can.

Thank you all for the support.

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User #7511821 - 12 Dec 19 17:47
VA county video that made bump stocks legal in their county. It's an instagram link. listen 1/2 way thru roughly on what cant be made illegal in this county. Bump stocks are on the list. https://www.instagram.com/p/B5npHRapEcQ/
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User #13187477 - 12 Dec 19 17:32
All I ask is to fight we our a force stand strong have chin held high your represent all of us and together we are unbreakable unmovable unstoppable we are all with you United we stand divided we fall
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User #7511821 - 12 Dec 19 19:09
I wish a lawer would comment on this law as read: https://www.instagram.com/p/B5npHRapEcQ/ because he also says they (state and federal) can't limit hand grips and stocks. Does this mean these guys can just have sbr's? He mentions supressor also. Might be time to move to VA actually.
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User #7511821 - 12 Dec 19 15:59
Tim have you noted that some of the VA counties passing sanctuary 2A laws have made bump stocks legal? Just an interesting part of what’s going on in VA. Not sure how it might impact ur case
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militaryarms - 12 Dec 19 16:06
I didn't know this.
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User #5613568 - 12 Dec 19 16:09
That is totally cool. Even if it may not mean much it’s friggen awesome civil disobedience!!!
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User #7511821 - 12 Dec 19 16:40
I saw it in an IG video. One county said bump stocks are legal to possess and use. So it looks like they r standing up to the state and the feds. I don’t know how many counties included this. It’s over 70 now all writing their own laws so it would be interesting to see how they are all worded.
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User #7511821 - 12 Dec 19 17:46
Tim here is the link to bumpstock law as read by someone with the county in VA. https://www.instagram.com/p/B5npHRapEcQ/ About 1/2 thru he lists a bunch of accessories and mag capacity and at the tail end he says bumpstocks.
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User #5630712 - 12 Dec 19 15:53
Sadly if they can read the constitution, the legal argument for the judges should be simple.
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User #14083887 - 12 Dec 19 16:46
Good luck...
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User #11596813 - 12 Dec 19 16:03
Thank you for the update. Have a safe and fun trip.
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User #9416611 - 12 Dec 19 15:56
Give'em nothing and take everything back! If they put you on the stand, I'm sure you got this! Just be polite and minimize your crotchety old man moments ;)
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militaryarms - 12 Dec 19 16:07
Haha, I would be very calm... I would do my best anyway. :)
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User #9416611 - 12 Dec 19 16:41
Anyone else think we need to get some meme magic going? I'm thinking a guntuber-Jacob's Ladder kinda thing with Tim reaching for a supressed Uzi on one side, and Ian reaching for a Maxim gun on the other. Maybe Mr Gunsngear with two AKs?
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User #8891528 - 12 Dec 19 15:53
Thanks for the update, hope everyone has fun on their hunt!
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User #3282243 - 12 Dec 19 15:54
And that's hoping SCOTUS will even hear the appeal if you end up having to. Which from past record I don't think they will.
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militaryarms - 12 Dec 19 16:07
All we can do is try... but we won't give up.
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User #3282243 - 12 Dec 19 16:23
I know and thank you for doing this.
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User #6246473 - 12 Dec 19 16:11
Hang in, we are behind you
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User #5613568 - 12 Dec 19 16:07
Tim, Thanks a ton for all of your and The teams work on this case. And thanks for keeping us informed. When the very bureaucracy that changed their interpretation by order of the president admits that they broke the law by doing this, how can you not win this case? Are the lawyers not allowed to argue that even the ATF knows they were wrong and don’t have the authority to do what they did?
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User #10342523 - 12 Dec 19 15:55
So much for the rule of law, huh?
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militaryarms - 12 Dec 19 16:07
It's selectively enforced. The state rarely rules against itself in such matters.
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User #4824606 - 12 Dec 19 15:57
Question: if you were to rewrite the definition of a machine gun, MAC, what would it be? I ask because the current definition is obviously nebulous, evidenced by the opportunity for different interpretations that convince judges that I'm assuming aren't stupid or simple minded.
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militaryarms - 12 Dec 19 16:09
The original definition seems fitting, however I wouldn't change anything other than repealing the NFA. All firearms should be legal and not require a tax and approval from the government to buy. But you know where I stand. :)
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User #9260126 - 12 Dec 19 16:14
Have fun!
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User #12240550 - 12 Dec 19 16:18
Safe travels. Have fun out there.
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User #5658141 - 12 Dec 19 18:00
Why in the world, do anyone have a need for something this "stupid". Are we getting attack my the "Mau, Mau" ??My son-in-law which is from there assured me that's not the case. Ground squirrels taking over in your household/??? Being a history major MA at my undergraduate level, I feel that I have the knowledge as to "why, why does anyone other the 101st Infantry Div have to have one. Everyone, this type of stupid gun toy is why the Liberals have grounds to ask, WHY!!!!
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User #7511821 - 12 Dec 19 18:54
Are you asking why have a bump stock? Why not is the question. When the amendment was written civilians had miltary grade weapons. Technology does not change the meaning of the constitution. Ask the poor people in Venezula recently being run over by APC's if gun control is good. The 2nd is to give the people the ability to over throw a tyranical government. Hard to do that if you are out gunned and the framers of the constitution knew that.
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User #10352084 - 12 Dec 19 16:19
It’s a sad day when our judges are selecting what laws they want to uphold and are infringing on our rights. Kinda makes a person feel like a subject and not a free man. Thanks for the update and all the hard work! Good luck on your hunt Jason and have fun filming Tim.
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User #12294116 - 12 Dec 19 19:54
I sure hope there won't be any negative impact on this and it doesn't pass(probably not), but that'll mean more restrictions and less freedoms- and who in their right minds would be against that?
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User #9592518 - 12 Dec 19 16:18
I'm glad to have you in our corner Tim, I know you'll do everything in your power to stand in their way. Good luck on your hunt, guys. 👍
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In a recent video I discovered an issue with the Grand Power Stribog SP9A1. After testing on both sides of the pond it was determined some guns may have overly heavy springs intended for +P+ ammo.

Global Ordnance (the importer) will take care of any customer having issues with their SP9A1 gun using an A3 (single rod) buffer system. Here's their official press release.

Talk about two amazing companies. Bravo to them for acting so quickly to test, determine the issue, admit the issue and get it resolved in less than a week.

Other companies could learn a few things from Grand Power and Global Ordnance. These are companies consumers should feel comfortable buying from.

Sig, are you listening?

Thanks for the support everyone. You make such honesty in our videos possible which in turn benefits the community as a whole.


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User #9346661 - 13 Nov 19 16:23
I am impressed by the affirmative response by the company. I would ALSO like to point out that it's probable that your reputation greatly increased their sensitivity to your report; you are KNOWN to speak the truth, even when it's uncomfortable. This is not only a good moment for Global/Grand Power, but for you as well. And it's double good for those of us who must make tough decisions about where our dollars go.
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User #7511821 - 13 Nov 19 20:38
I'm impressed. I feel even better about buying mine.
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User #8141388 - 13 Nov 19 16:05
Mac crew, I am sure sometimes you feel beaten by the hate you get from fanboys and trolls, but THIS is one of the reasons you keep going everyday! Thanks!
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User #6170279 - 13 Nov 19 18:13
Well done Tim! We appreciate YOUR transparency on these issues, it is great insight. On a personal note, how satisfying is it for you to see your efforts pay off with real product improvements?
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User #5188890 - 13 Nov 19 15:57
It's honestly impressive that your video got them to start a recall. Props to them for admitting to it, making it clear why it happened, and offering a fix.
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User #7733610 - 13 Nov 19 21:20
This EXACTLY one of the reasons why I support Tim & Jason ! No bullshit,no taking money from the manufacturers just the plain truth.rock on brothers! ;)
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militaryarms - 14 Nov 19 14:53
Thank you. We strive to be consumer advocates vs. industry advocates. Being supported by consumers allows us to share raw honesty and not water down our videos so as not to bite the hand that feeds us (if we were supported by gun maker money). We hope to be able to continue this model for as long as we can. If Patreon falls apart on us, our biggest fear is being forced into doing paid reviews as so many of our peers have been. It’s because of good people like you, and our other Patreons, that we can continue to effect positive change in products through honesty that ultimately benefits our entire community. All of our Patreons should give themselves a pat on the back for things like the Stribog and the AKV9.
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User #7439518 - 13 Nov 19 19:02
This is an awesome turn of events. Mechanical devices will have issues now and again, but to see a company admit engineering issues and be proactive in correcting them earns a lot of respect with me. When I go to pick up a PCC, which is on the short list, it will very likely earn some coin as well.
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militaryarms - 14 Nov 19 14:45
I agree. I’m so used to companies like Century Arms or Sig trash talking me for my honest vs. taking the information and doing something with it. Well, Century doesn’t do anything but Sig does. They listen to what people like me say, but deny there are problems while they work behind the scenes to fix them.
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User #5641846 - 13 Nov 19 16:08
What about the mag issues you are having?
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User #6246473 - 13 Nov 19 17:00
Oil/lubrication
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User #8141388 - 13 Nov 19 16:01
I wonder what wouldve happened if a consumer with zero influence called.. I am glad you aren't bought by companies and test for us, the consumers. (Kinda like how policians should be lol)
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User #6246473 - 13 Nov 19 16:59
I am not a supporter of the company yet, but I will be when the A3 releases. Bravo, Bravo!!!!!!
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User #5794365 - 13 Nov 19 16:30
The A3 version will be on my shopping list. Heard rumors of it over a year ago when GP was coming in through Eagle Imports. Of course I'll be waiting for a MAC video on it before buying...hint hint. Nice to know they will stand behind their products.
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User #3947639 - 13 Nov 19 17:43
I'm glad their taking responsibility. It's just mind-boggling that they would sell a +P+ product and not make a notation in the manuel. It's like selling a 10mm 1911 and having everyone believe it's chambered in 45acp. Thank goodness for you, MAC. Otherwise we wouldn't know about any of this. 👍
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User #11596813 - 13 Nov 19 16:04
Yes, kudos to both companies for finding resolution for the problem so quickly.
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User #20854129 - 13 Nov 19 16:25
I am definitely going to get one one these, I like it when they listen to the consumer the problem is though I fill if you wouldn't have had the problems with yours and showed it on you tube they might not have listen to the poeple with the problems as soon as they did or maybe at all. So I fill if it wasn't for you being and advocate for us and getting upset at them the gunmakers like you do we wouldn't get the results that we are getting so bravo to you mac for doing what you do.
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User #23069596 - 13 Nov 19 16:37
Can’t wait for the Stribog era to be over. Not a diss.
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User #13963617 - 13 Nov 19 17:20
I absolutely love being a part if a patreon group that is so active and engaged. Thanks again MAC. I'm still waiting for the A3 before I buy though.
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User #12741344 - 13 Nov 19 16:01
Absolutely awesome when companies respond this way. Good on them. It's companies like Grand Power and PSA that stand behind their products that makes you want to support these companies. I'm excited to see the roller guns. :-) hopefully they aren't too spendy.
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User #5276197 - 13 Nov 19 15:56
Outstanding. Glad they immediately troubleshooted and came up with a root cause.
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User #7773901 - 13 Nov 19 17:24
They seem like fantastic companies. Now I definitely want a Stribog. Should I wait for the A3?
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User #10352084 - 13 Nov 19 21:43
Very nice!👍
MeWe - A place for freedom of speech 2019-10-27T14:17:17+00:00

I've had many people ask me to create a MeWe page. I've noticed some of my friends and peers creating their pages on MeWe. I've had a personal account for quite some time, but today I made a Military Arms Channel page.

https://mewe.com/p/militaryarmschannel

MeWe doesn't discriminate based on your political views or because you are a 2A advocate. They are a freedom of speech platform that is an alternative to the far too powerful Facebook which clearly discriminates against people like us by refusing to allow us to grow (squash us), refusing to allow us to even boost our posts (pay to reach our viewers), and outright banning us from time to time.

We need more freedom oriented platforms without political agendas. It's up to us, as a community (as Americans not just 2A advocates) to grow these new platforms.

Please swing by MeWe and follow our new page. If you don't have an account, consider making one. It's not like Facebook who uses your information for nefarious purposes.

Also give MrGunsnGear a follow there: https://mewe.com/p/mrgunsngear

If you know of any other GunTubers or bloggers who have MeWe pages, please post about them below so we can all follow them!

Thanks everyone!

Tim

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User #8357240 - 27 Oct 19 14:20
Good morning Tim
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User #8024430 - 27 Oct 19 18:12
Tim - Thanks. I'll check it out, as I agree that Patriots need a place to share ideas without oversight by the liberal overlords. On that note, I got a tweet yesterday from Rob Pincus re. Savethe2A.org - are ou aware of what those guys are doing? I looked their site over yesterday and really think that they should be a group that you'd want to consider aligning with and promoting here and on other channels, as they are committed to turning the NRA around and are actually taking action via petition drives, etc. As Patriots, gun owners, brothers and sisters of the pewpew nation, etc. we all need to become activists and do everything we can to stem the tide of the liberal BS that constantly floods the media, our statehouses and courts. Thought I'd mention it because you have the attention of a lot of us, and your voice matters.
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User #7170863 - 27 Oct 19 14:20
I’ve been on there for a little bit. Hopefully the platform grows and can compete with the big boys.
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User #829206 - 27 Oct 19 14:42
I tried to sign up to WeMe to promote any site that's a competitor to evil Facebook, even though I'm not into the social media thing. WeMe took my personal information, asked me to verify by clicking on arrows to roll a ball upright. The arrows did nothing in my browser. No way to complete the account sign up procedure, and no way to contact WeMe to let them know. Like most of the big tech companies, they want my data and my participation on their platform but they offer no customer service. They do not want to hear from me. I guess they want me to install their app and use my phone to use their site? No thanks. I'd love to see an alternative to Facebook, but I don't have a Facebook account and it's hard to miss a place you've never been.
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User #9283588 - 28 Oct 19 03:43
Signed up and following MAC and Mrgunsngear!
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User #18571962 - 28 Oct 19 20:53
Me to. Both of them
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User #4010795 - 28 Oct 19 00:46
I like styxs approach to social media, he has spread himself to a bunch of alt tech sites making censoring him almost impossible. I do highly recommend you start using bitchute MAC if you haven't
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User #3947639 - 27 Oct 19 14:26
Like I commented to Mrgunsngear, never heard of it but the more sites the better. 👍
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User #10352084 - 27 Oct 19 14:23
Just signed up.
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User #8852050 - 30 Oct 19 04:25
Im there.
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User #5713747 - 27 Oct 19 17:12
I've been on MeWe since early 2018. It's a great idea, but it's a dead end. They claim "no BS. No ads. No spyware." What they don't bother to mention is no content and no activity. The sad thing is, some of the things people complain about most regarding FB are the very things that draw people there. I've been hanging in at MeWe, hoping it might take off, but I have little confidence that it will. It will likely go the way of MySpace.
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User #10669738 - 1 Nov 19 20:20
❤️
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User #6246473 - 27 Oct 19 19:16
I'm in
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User #12555011 - 27 Oct 19 18:13
Signed up, and following. Thanks for leading the way Tim!
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User #5654665 - 27 Oct 19 23:08
I’m in
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User #5641190 - 27 Oct 19 14:41
Just signed up yesterday with MRgunsngears post as well. Hopefully the platform will grow in the right direction. I have never even heard of it till yesterday. I need to learn to navigate it and hope it’ll be something I go to regularly.
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User #5647051 - 27 Oct 19 19:44
thanks!
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User #5805647 - 27 Oct 19 14:38
I've been part of me we for a couple of years
On the Sebastian Gorka show
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I had a busy night tonight! I did a livestream with GOA and Erich Pratt, then jumped right over to the Sebastian Gorka show. Here's my interview with Mr. Gorka.

Our activism is working. Our voices are being heard. Erich talks about how successful our campaign against red flag laws has been so far and how we brought pressure to Rep. Dan Crenshaw, among several others, through grassroots activism. We must continue the fight, but it's important you know that your voices ARE heard and they DO matter.

Thank you for the support.

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User #6432264 - 5 Oct 19 01:59
Great job Tim! 👍👏
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User #20272834 - 5 Oct 19 01:54
Hope you gave Gorka a free Patreon account. If not, I'll pay his monthly subscription. Add it to my account....
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User #5720070 - 5 Oct 19 01:04
Good going, Tim.
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User #14936047 - 5 Oct 19 01:46
Good to know the struggle is working in the rest of America. Here behind enemy lines it's getting worse.
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User #10128663 - 6 Oct 19 01:54
if he comes shoot with you please make it a Patreon only video
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User #12433753 - 5 Oct 19 03:17
Smart Second Amendment activism is what separates this channel from the rest for me. Thank you for all you do Tim!
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User #16811196 - 5 Oct 19 12:21
Harris can go piss up a rope! it's like your neighbor who thinks you have too many kids so he gets a vasectomy!!!
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User #3947639 - 5 Oct 19 00:44
I think it is working. I haven't heard the president talk about red flags or suppressors lately. 👍
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User #5880838 - 5 Oct 19 18:13
Awesome! 🇺🇸
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User #7812047 - 5 Oct 19 01:11
No, THANK YOU! Our voices may not be heard without you delivering our message. If only we could ALL come together in the firearms community to fight together. The impact would be undeniable and effective!
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User #23789786 - 5 Oct 19 23:07
Thank you for being an excellent 2A advocate! While most of us are strong supporters, our lifestyles, employment, family obligations, prevent us from taking a higher profile. I encourage everyone to routinely contact their representatives. Vote! Join groups like GOA and the NRA. Your opinion matters, but apathy will be our undoing. Semper Fi Brother and keep up the fight!
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User #23283469 - 6 Oct 19 01:34
Thank you Tim
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User #18214104 - 5 Oct 19 09:15
Thank you for fighting so hard for our second ammendment rights Tim. I have alot of respect for you and hope to someday shake your hand.
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User #5676232 - 5 Oct 19 00:46
I appreciate your post. Sometimes it feels like it's never ending bad news for the 2A. Its nice to hear some positive information once in a while and encouragement that our calls an emails to elected officials are being heard. We appreciate you!
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User #10009233 - 5 Oct 19 00:49
Did he end up buying a 9mm gatling gun from copper?
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militaryarms - 5 Oct 19 01:24
We're still talking about it. :D
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User #9397599 - 5 Oct 19 16:23
Extremely well spoken Tim. Myself and so many others are damn glad to have your voice on this vitally important topic. Thank you!
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User #8288336 - 5 Oct 19 04:19
Tim this interview is great. The last 2 1/2 minutes about Crenshaw is a relief to hear. Our Reps and Senators have to know there are repercussions and we will react. More people need to know about this. Not to shame Chrenshaw (I think his heart was in the right place) but to show people that WE CAN make a difference if we just ACT!
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User #6433843 - 5 Oct 19 13:04
Awesome job 👍🇱🇷
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User #7897563 - 5 Oct 19 00:56
Tim, I know you talk to Gorka, Gorka also talks to Trump, do you think it matters? I guess Im asking if your words are making to Trump? I know Sean Hannity speaks with Trump too.
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militaryarms - 5 Oct 19 01:26
I don't really want to delve into that. I will say that Gorka is 100% on our side and he does have Trump's ear. How much Trump values his input, I can't say. Trump has a lot of people who advise him. His daughter has his ear the most, and she is horribly anti-gun. That's what concerns me most.
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User #10352084 - 5 Oct 19 03:06
Good interview. I hope that someday all the phone calls and emails will pay off even more and the bill of Wright’s will not be attached by politicians on a daily bases. Tell that day comes I will keep doing my part. Thanks for all you do!
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Just a reminder, we have a private group for our Patreons on FB. One of our Patreons gave me the idea and it's turned out to be a real success. Folks are sharing pictures, chatting and even helping each other move from one state to another and even helping each other find jobs!

It's been a real success! I'm so happy that folks are using it.

When you follow the link, I will ask you two questions that you must answer. If you don't answer or if you supply incorrect information, I won't allow you access to the group. It's information that only I see and the questions are; "What's you user name and email address you used to sign up on Patreon?" I use this to check the Patreon database to confirm you're one of our supporters.

We've had a rash of people applying for access that are not providing answers to the questions or are giving information that doesn't match any Patreon supporter account so they're being denied. People can find the group by searching which is why I'm seeing so many applications to grant access.

If you are a Patreon and you've been denied, it's probably because you didn't answer the questions. :)

So far we have almost 600 people active using the FB group. We would love to have you join us!

On another note, I have 3 videos I'm currently editing. We're cranking them out faster than I can edit them. I have one Patreon only video I'm going to quickly put together (I hope tonight) and get it up for you. We have some really cool content coming very soon!

Keep in mind that special content will only be posted here to Patreon and not to the FB group. The FB group is purely for social interaction between our Patreons.

Thank you all for the continued support.

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User #8190693 - 2 Oct 19 00:21
Thanks!
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User #9701629 - 2 Oct 19 00:25
No Facebook here also.
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User #5666553 - 2 Oct 19 00:20
Heck yeah! Thanks Tim.
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User #6025962 - 2 Oct 19 00:23
Sweet
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User #8288336 - 2 Oct 19 01:07
I also was only asked the email question. I think the private FB group sounds like an awesome idea.
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User #8957195 - 2 Oct 19 00:21
Only commenting to know what my username is
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User #2807286 - 2 Oct 19 00:27
Nice
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User #7374900 - 2 Oct 19 00:38
I tried answering your questions but for some reason it would not let me submit the request at the end. Somentype of error.
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User #9239398 - 2 Oct 19 00:56
The FB group was a great idea. I hope to post progress on my Colt Canada/Diemaco clones in the future with pictures! Unfortunately I blew the budget on some radios thanks to the FCC deadline.
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User #14698943 - 2 Oct 19 00:34
I can’t get onto Facebook anymore. Something about being mean and hurt feelings.
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User #6246473 - 2 Oct 19 00:42
I think I submitted but with only my email address
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User #7727910 - 2 Oct 19 00:18
Are you posting deals there for copper or are you still looking for ways go get those offers to us without breaking the rules
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User #8093535 - 2 Oct 19 01:11
Thanks Tim
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User #5188259 - 2 Oct 19 00:18
I don’t do social media other than discussion boards and Patreon.
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User #772038 - 2 Oct 19 00:19
Thanks for doing this!
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User #4987201 - 2 Oct 19 00:24
That's really cool but I don't have and will never recreate another facebook account. I am curious though, would anyone be interested in joining an unofficial MAC pateron Discord?
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User #9247711 - 2 Oct 19 02:22
I would!
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User #5634762 - 2 Oct 19 00:40
Cool
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User #2646058 - 2 Oct 19 00:45
I only got one question, my email.... I put it in and it said under review.... not sure why it only asked one question...
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User #2291575 - 2 Oct 19 00:38
Awesome.
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User #3027092 - 2 Oct 19 00:33
I'm an admin on a private Jeep group and a gun group and always deny people who don't answer the questions. I would keep with that policy for this group!
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This article is amazing. The BATF admitted in a court filing that it lacked the rule making authority under the NFA to issue a rule banning bumpstocks. They KNEW they couldn't do it, but they did it anyway because Trump told them to (that part isn't in their admission of guilt).

From the article:

"This case is not about whether gun control is a good idea. Rather, Mr. Aposhian’s appeal raises key issues about how an agency may create such a ban—that is, whether agency regulations may contradict a statute passed by Congress. The appeal also challenges the notion that a mere interpretive rule can bind third parties, such as owners of bump stocks."

This is exactly what we've argued from the beginning. The ATF cannot do an end run around Congress. It doesn't have the authority, nor does any other alphabet agency. They can't make laws out of thin air.

Hang in there everyone, we are going to win the Gun Owners of America lawsuit to which I am a party. The BATF and Trump WAY over stepped their bounds and set a very dangerous precedent.

Thank you for your continued support.

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Congress has not prohibited bump stocks, but the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) has made them illegal with a Final Rule issued without statutory authority. In a noteworthy development, ATF's latest court filing admits that it lacked rulemaking authority under the Gun Control

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User #6433843 - 22 Sep 19 14:44
I posted about it in the MAC Facebook group and was hoping it was true 👍
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User #2807399 - 22 Sep 19 15:55
Our government has been completely out of control for quite a while. While I applaud the impending small victory, I fear we may still lose the war.
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User #6394380 - 22 Sep 19 15:23
Now if we could get the Supreme Court to declare assault weapons bans unconstitutional.
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User #5758861 - 22 Sep 19 16:36
I’m glad to hear the outlook is good for many in other states. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them banned anyway legislatively by a handful of weak republicans in the senate a few weeks from now. As These stocks were already unconstitutionally banned by a few swing states and oh these states never offered any restitution either. Once these rights are gone in these states the senators are not burdened with having to defend the 2A as the state has already eradicated support for this accessory. It’s something to carefully consider unless the state bans get overturned....
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User #5599221 - 22 Sep 19 14:37
Cool beans! We need keep the fight up!
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User #10413472 - 22 Sep 19 16:23
I dont know....seems to me Trump knew this but did it to troll the ATF and the anti gun to prove a point?? And now after the gift the Beto gave us that seems to be backfiring is now caused a movement that has the antigun reeling?? Not sure what to think right now. At any rate non compliance is the order of the day.
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User #311547 - 22 Sep 19 14:33
Yet the judge nor the Supreme Court would allow an injunction to take effect. Seems like the law has been politicized by both parties....
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User #13963617 - 22 Sep 19 14:39
Forward progress 👍
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User #8924713 - 22 Sep 19 15:28
Great New, but the legal system already failed us when the Supreme Court refused to issue an injunction, knowing GOA and others had a good case that had a chance to prevail. Instead they allowed an illegal overreach to proceed and hundreds of thousands of Americans list property because of it Net result - Trump gets credit for illegal gun control, aggravating his base and winning him nothing with the gun control crowd. So sad. I wonder if the Court will forced the government to reimburse those who lost their property to the illegal order?
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User #17687163 - 22 Sep 19 14:52
The ATF needs to be abolished.
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User #6432264 - 22 Sep 19 14:35
Let's keep the momentum up 2A community! 👍🇺🇲
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User #8079679 - 22 Sep 19 14:55
Would this set precedent for getting other atf bs tossed?
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User #311547 - 23 Sep 19 19:08
As far as I'm aware, no this would not get ATF bs tossed unless they tried to rewrite and reinterpret established law
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User #9397599 - 22 Sep 19 14:54
Great news indeed! Sad part is all of the resources that were spun up to fight this. Not to mention those who destroyed their property and/or inventory. Some folks won't be made whole once the dust settles.
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User #4447395 - 22 Sep 19 15:35
Wonder if there is a way to sue the president or if we have to wait until he is out of office to try to recoup the losses. As I've said before, it should be him that pays, not the government as that is my money and that regulation wasn't legal.
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User #6652665 - 22 Sep 19 15:43
I somehow think despite the actions taken by the President, we need to stick together to fight a common more dangerous enemy.
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User #9397599 - 22 Sep 19 16:32
I too agree that now having an active 2A crowd we must stay at the forefront given all the liberals who'd take our rights in a heartbeat.
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User #2370479 - 22 Sep 19 15:08
Every rare now and then our legal system actually protects the innocent and law abiding.
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User #15395393 - 22 Sep 19 16:28
Even Feinstein said this BS wasn't legal and would never stick! Tim I'm headed over to the Gun Rights Convention and I sure wish you could have made it!
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User #7981645 - 22 Sep 19 15:19
They are saying this now because it has been long time goal of trump administration to have supreme court overrule chevron doctrine. There is a case at supreme court regarding this that is the firearm policy coalition case. I have yet to see the response to writ of certiori filed by firearm polict coalition. The response would be ATF justification for why the writ of certiori should be denied.
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User #4447395 - 22 Sep 19 15:36
I don't understand any of what you mentioned and it sounds like something I need to understand.
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User #7981645 - 22 Sep 19 15:49
Look at this. https://www.axios.com/white-house-counsel-don-mcgahn-trump-mueller-republican-lunch-7b687a07-4acf-4578-ac32-f0c421c74070.html Trump wants to change a longstanding deference. He has nominated judges that might do so. Now that the firearm policy coalition case at supreme court the solicitor general might ask the supreme court to take up the case to clarify chevron doctrine. Chevron doctrine is basically the idea that federal agencies are the best one to intepret ambeigious law and make their own understanding of it.
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User #7981645 - 22 Sep 19 15:49
The trump administration hasnt filed a response yet to the case. And the lawyers for firearm policy coalition are arguing that chevron deference needs to be more restricted.
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User #7981645 - 22 Sep 19 15:52
In a case in the past term at supreme court 4 of the conservative justices wanted to overrule a similar precedent but chief justice sides with the liberals. And rather than overturn it made it more strict. The supreme court usually grants writ of certiori when 4 justices want to hear the case. This writ of ceritiori might be one that thomas, alito, gorsuch and kavanaugh want to hear. Because they were the ones that wanted to overrule a similar precedent last term.
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User #7981645 - 22 Sep 19 16:00
Now I am not sure even if the ATF admited in thia case that it didnt the authority to do this regulation change. How it would affect the case at the supreme court. I am not sure if it has thia information there. Or if this has to make its way through 10th circuit court of appeals and then to supreme court.
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User #13057726 - 22 Sep 19 16:00
Facts it’s seems are still stubborn things. Thank you for dedicating your time and resources to this fight the way you have. It seems that if we are willing to fight and press our leaders too seriously consider the fact that many of us will no longer accept this type of over reach and that we will resist any form of gun control. We have the power to right the ship so to speak. Keep up the pressure on your elected officials.
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User #13187477 - 22 Sep 19 14:35
Mac your a hero to all us and give a thanks to GOA on our behalf
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User #23789786 - 22 Sep 19 14:42
Outstanding News!
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User #545458 - 22 Sep 19 14:48
Excuse me while I warm up my 3d printer for the sudden demand.
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If you carry a firearm defensively you should consider getting protection from being sued or worse, having to defend yourself in criminal court from an over zealous prosecutor. For the last year I've been a member of USCCA and from all my research they have an outstanding rating from people who have needed their services. Other services exist, and I won't discourage you from looking into them, but I use USCCA.

https://tracking.deltadefense.com/aff_c?offer_id=94&aff_id=18652

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Thanks for the continued support everyone!

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User #6090841 - 17 Sep 19 20:28
Joined bout a month ago through your link
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:23
Thank you.
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User #5281656 - 17 Sep 19 21:59
Your post amount a month ago finally convinced me to stop procrastinating and sign up.
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:24
Thank you!
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User #9684556 - 17 Sep 19 20:23
Link worked fine for me.
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User #8019732 - 17 Sep 19 20:57
Unfortunately my state attorney General has determined it is illegal to obtain USCCA insurance because it's "paying for protection when I commit a crime."
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User #14936047 - 17 Sep 19 22:56
What state do you live in?
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User #5614679 - 17 Sep 19 20:51
Hey Tim, are you still planning to do a Q&A or videochat with the USCCA guys?
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:19
Yup!
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User #5614679 - 17 Sep 19 22:20
Thank you! Looking forward to it!
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User #7511821 - 17 Sep 19 20:26
Joined today. Thanks Tim.
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:23
Thank you.
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User #10995940 - 17 Sep 19 23:14
NY state administration under governor Andy Cuomo will Not allow USCCA to sell their services in NY state. I tried to purchase the Elite package and was told by the USCCA representative that their service was deemed illegal in NY. The representative told me their service was called “ Murder Insurance” by those in Albany.
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User #22326109 - 18 Sep 19 01:45
Wow, no way.
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User #10995940 - 18 Sep 19 01:57
USCCA representative said “They’re fighting to get the law overturned but currently have no end in sight” IMO as long as andy Cuomo is governor of NY there won’t even be a hearing about it.
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User #5648016 - 17 Sep 19 22:25
I've been with USCCA insurance over a year now and it just auto-renewed. Wondering if there's a way to renew next time so you get credit.
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User #7539712 - 17 Sep 19 21:18
I signed up in April with the Elite Membership. Best choice I made. I never had insurance before, and looking back at it, im glad nothing happened because I would have been screwed big time. I will continue to be an Elite Member for now on.
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:24
It's affordable peace of mind when you carry a gun every day... at least for me.
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User #9935393 - 17 Sep 19 20:11
I’m having issues with the link. Is it just me?
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:23
Did you click the image or the link in the post? https://tracking.deltadefense.com/aff_c?offer_id=94&aff_id=18652
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User #5601238 - 17 Sep 19 22:45
I have US Law Shield because Cooper Custom had a workshop and said they were good
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User #6246473 - 17 Sep 19 21:46
Someone put out a chart showing the different well known companies that offer coverage and they differences. I can't find it right now. Anyone else have this chart?
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User #545458 - 17 Sep 19 20:28
I've been a member of USCCA for four years now. Haven't needed their help yet but they have some great discounts on other products. I also really enjoy their magazine.
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:23
I agree, the magazine is very good.
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User #8557604 - 17 Sep 19 22:48
Question: I have been a USCCA member for several years. Is there a way I can renew my membership and have it benefit MAC?
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User #5401209 - 17 Sep 19 20:11
I use USCCA as well. Great people
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User #17944133 - 17 Sep 19 20:12
I signed up the other day from Tactical Toolboxes channel. Good protection to have.
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User #20746729 - 17 Sep 19 20:59
Will they even insure folks in my neck of the commie (bad commie, not cool self-contained farming commune commie) woods? I know the pathetic excuse for an Irishman resting his ass in the governor's chair got his lapdog AG to go after the providers of a similar service, and stole over a million government-printed copies of George Washington's face in the process.
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User #14936047 - 17 Sep 19 22:57
Looks like we are both in CA. Can you link or describe the story you are referring to?
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User #20746729 - 17 Sep 19 23:03
Actually I'm in the People's Republik of NJ- Just as bad if not worse. It was rough before, with a governor constantly butting heads with rest of the state .gov, but This Murphy is the guy Heinlein talked about. He really thinks he's right with god (Or whoever, because 1A rocks too) in all this. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/nj-gov-gun-makers-banks-gun-control/?unapproved=253104&moderation-hash=b9b4e474dfdc414b4801a94c7e1c94a4#comment-253104
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User #6055875 - 17 Sep 19 20:17
Link is broken Tim.
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:23
Did you click the image or the link in the post? https://tracking.deltadefense.com/aff_c?offer_id=94&aff_id=18652
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User #5880838 - 17 Sep 19 20:45
Will be looking into it Tim thank you. 🇺🇸
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User #10387132 - 17 Sep 19 20:31
I have had USCCA for going on four years. Been a big comfort to know I have some actual protection should the worst occur. And I can confirm that those give aways we all see? Yes. They are legit. I won a G19 give away about 6 mos back. Used the money to pick up a used 1911 and the rest in training. Point is, these guys are great. When I call, I get a person. When I message, I get a reply. It is worth it everyday.
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militaryarms - 17 Sep 19 22:24
Agreed. I can't believe I carried for so long without such protection.
Patreon Preview: EOTech + Magnifier - my thoughts
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I've had a number of inquiries about my thoughts on magnifiers as used with red dot sights or holographic sights like the EOTech. I haven't gotten as many inquiries about my thoughts around the new EOTech line of sights. I figure that's because people already either love them or hate them based on their history.

We did a test on the new EOTech XPS3 where we zeroed it at 50 yards in 16 degree temps. Then I wanted to shoot it this summer to see if the issue of zero shift occurred. I talk about that in this video as well.

Thanks everyone and I hope you're having a good week.

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User #5647051 - 6 Sep 19 18:27
I just ordered a G33 and EXPS3-4. You're always one step ahead of me 😂
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User #18071738 - 6 Sep 19 23:59
Woah, cool to see you on here man! Can’t wait to see your PSA 11.5 upper review. I just got mine in today and love it so far.
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User #8128495 - 6 Sep 19 21:49
This battery life thing that everybody seems to have boggles my mind. I can’t see the need to keep the sight on all the time unless you are in a combat zone ( like Chicago LOL). I can take the fraction of a second to hit the button to turn on the sight. The cost of a cr123 battery twice a year won’t break me. You’re playing to the arm chair warriors. In real life the battery “issue” isn’t , unless you’re too dame lazy to turn your optic off. Of course this rant is a reflection of my experience as a tactical Grandfather. Carry on...
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militaryarms - 9 Sep 19 00:54
For me it's a matter of turning it on for day or night use. The EOTech remembers the last setting. So if that was at night, in daylight it won't be bright enough. In the sunlight, and in the dark it's blooming bright. If you run a white light for night, then quick adjustment is also hindered as compared to a dial. As with most everything, it's personal preference. If I have a rifle with iron sights, I don't leave them folded down until I need them, I leave them up. With my defensive rifle, I don't leave my sight off, I leave it on so I don't have to worry about it under stress and then I change the battery every 3 years. As with all things, do what works for you. There's no single right answer.
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User #4364926 - 6 Sep 19 13:25
They're heavy and bulky. Personally I don't see where they're better than a comparablely priced alternative.
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militaryarms - 6 Sep 19 13:55
I agree 100%.
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User #8128495 - 6 Sep 19 21:56
Again... Between my Son And I we have and use three EOTech sights and two magnifiers. Never any problems of any kind and love the reticule. Although I have gravitated to 1-4 illuminated scopes on a few of my “ combat” rifles. None of those have battery life counted in years either. I’ve managed to never have a dead battery when I needed them. Go figure.
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User #8288336 - 7 Sep 19 02:30
But those illuminated scopes probably have etched reticles. Better than nothing if the battery dies.
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militaryarms - 9 Sep 19 00:55
I much prefer etched reticles that are illuminated for that very reason.
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User #5643779 - 6 Sep 19 17:09
“I don’t have any combat experience with these sights...” because we’re old bastards! Iron sights, BABY!
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User #23789786 - 6 Sep 19 14:21
Once again, thank you for another great review. My experience is I never had the time to add it to the weapon. If I anticipated needing it, I switched to a Vortex 1-6 optic and had better more consistent hits. I had teammates that loved them. Again thanks for reviewing gear like this. Information is key, especially when considering an optics purchase. Semper Fidelis!
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militaryarms - 6 Sep 19 14:26
Semper Fi brother.
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User #20854129 - 6 Sep 19 13:43
I am going to have to do a little more research, I was going to buy one for my red dot but now not so sure but that is why mac is here to give his view and to be objective which what we need.
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militaryarms - 6 Sep 19 13:56
Research is key. What I like or dislike doesn't mean you will agree with me. I share my perspective and the reasons for either liking or disliking something. I alway tell folks, "Never buy something because I like it and definitely never sell something because I dislike it."
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User #20272834 - 6 Sep 19 13:56
Save your money. Just bought one and returned it without every trying it on the range.
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User #18071738 - 7 Sep 19 00:01
Tim is usually right for me, just look at my conceal carry rotation, it’s a P-01, G43x and a LTT Elite..... all because of Tim!
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User #5601238 - 6 Sep 19 21:25
Get that Massada video out so I can decide if I'm buying it or not. Lol
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User #2902361 - 6 Sep 19 22:00
Based on other reviews I've seen, your buying one.
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User #9416611 - 6 Sep 19 17:08
What's the steel ring coming out of the ground? Well?
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User #8129090 - 6 Sep 19 19:12
I got a EoTech EXPS3 earlier this year for $495.03 from optics planet. If you hunt for a sale you can get a killer deal. I was gonna go with T2 but couldn't pass up the Eo Tech price and I've always been bi-curious with the EoTech. Prior to Eo Tech have a MRO on another rifle, but I'm really digging the EoTech lately. It's like my two kids, I can't choose which one I love more, love em both. Eo Tech is married to a ADM 12.5 pistol (boner alert).
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User #5614676 - 6 Sep 19 20:22
I run the EOTech because of astigmatism, nice clean dot. All red dots I have tried shows some distortion, some more than others. I have used and continue to use a magnifier (Vortex, EOTech is a bit overpriced for me) in competition. It's very helpful with the rules and course design, no equipment changes, ranges from muzzle contact to 200 yards, and small complex targets at range. Having the magnification helps with target identification (no-shoots).
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User #5672482 - 6 Sep 19 21:49
Hey Tim how do I email you? Are there PM's on here?
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militaryarms - 9 Sep 19 00:52
PM sent.
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User #7707557 - 6 Sep 19 13:46
So... I have very similar feelings in re to the G33 and magnifiers in general. They do add flexibility...but I keep my one and only in my kit not on the rifle/pistol. I have found that the only real role for it in my inventory has been to refine the zero of the RD sights across the various systems. Obviously this is just one opinion of many.
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militaryarms - 6 Sep 19 13:57
Your opinion is every bit as valid as mine is!
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User #6219324 - 6 Sep 19 17:32
Can we get a comparison of the EOTech to the Meprolight Tru-Dot, Leupold LCO, and Holosun 510? We’ve seen a million comparisons of Aimpoints and their clones, I’m interested in seeing a comparison of all the large-window, square optics on the market.
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User #20272834 - 6 Sep 19 13:16
Most of us do not have the time or resources to do the independent testing you do. You have become the Patreon's "Consumer Reports" of all things firearms. Thank you for all you do!
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militaryarms - 6 Sep 19 13:55
Thank you for the support!
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User #20854129 - 6 Sep 19 15:29
It is like you said in the video why would need to magnify your red dot out to 250 yards for self defence i sure wouldn't, and i don't think i will be using my red dots passed 50 yards anyway and i can definitely hit what i am aiming at out that far i have scopes for anything farther.
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User #4612564 - 6 Sep 19 19:31
Speaking of scopes, did you guys catch this story?! https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/09/06/exclusive-feds-order-apple-and-google-to-hand-over-names-of-10000-users-of-a-gun-scope-app/
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militaryarms - 9 Sep 19 00:48
I saw it but haven't had time to read it yet it. I'll go do it now.
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militaryarms - 9 Sep 19 00:51
It will be interesting to see how the courts rule.
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User #8354123 - 6 Sep 19 16:58
I love the exps-3, the magnifier i could take or leave, its nice to id targets from extended range. people also forget aimpoints are using 30 year old tech basically its just a tiny LED projecting on glass, hence the battery life anyone can do this and your seeing it from optics such as holosun. Holograms are newer tech using lasers not leds which is why the battery life isn't as good but the sight picture is superior, you could also smash out the front glass of an EoTech and your sight still works perfectly fine.
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User #9416611 - 6 Sep 19 17:07
I think it's a good compromise, Have and not need etc. It makes the rifle more versatile sure, and that might be the right fit for somebody. I have a fair amount of vision issues, in home defense I'm grabbing a red carbine, and holding my fort. If I'm going to the range to hunt paper I'm taking a 4-14 scoped Dmr. I can't see a fair amount of stuff within 6ft of me from overlapping blind spots, those blind spots get smaller with distance. Play to your strengths I guess. Different tools, different rules.
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User #10352084 - 6 Sep 19 14:32
I tried a magnifier and a red dot on my blackout pistol I use for hunting. I did not like it. I got the vortex 3x prisum scope . It’s enough to help identify my intended targets and not to much when in the woods. Thanks again for another great video!
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I got this text message from my friends at GOA today. It was some very good news. To all those who joined the GOA using my link that is posted in every video description, THANK YOU for willing to put skin in the game to preserve and restore our rights. Many have joined not using the link but because I asked them to and THANK YOU as well. This total doesn't count the other donations I make to them.

But this is a GREAT start.

Let's DOUBLE it!

If you're not a member, please consider becoming one. Come this next Congressional session we're going to need all hands on deck to fight the anti-gun laws coming our way. PLEASE share this link.

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User #504438 - 29 Aug 19 05:37
Am I the only one who was hoping this was "Good News" about something else entirely? Glad to join the GOA (wife is a long time member, I should have been too) however!
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User #11111204 - 29 Aug 19 06:49
Very cool Tim. Because of your recommendation I am a GOA life member and just dropped some of their postcards off at the mailbox today, addressed to the Commander in Chief himself. I didn't use your link, I did this over a year ago. So there's probably a bit more on top of that number already!
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:33
Outstanding.
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User #5613568 - 29 Aug 19 11:37
Guys we need to keep trying to get our friends and family signed up to GOA. At $20 a year, that’s so cheap even I can afford it. I’m very proud of the fact that I have personally gotten 14 new people signed up in the last three weeks. I’m not going to stop. Also, anyone willing to sign up to GOA, hit em up to sign up to SAF and FPC. All three are doing amazing work at the grassroots and local legislative levels all over the country.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:41
Outstanding!!!!
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User #4612564 - 29 Aug 19 05:49
I donate to the GOA and FPC on a regular basis, that is awesome!
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:40
Awesome!
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User #12433753 - 29 Aug 19 03:53
I'm NRA + GOA. MAC is the only channel I'm subscribed to through Patreon. It's only $1 a month, but since Tim is close to GOA & active supporter of #2A in social media, I count the expense as the extension of GOA membership dues. When I renew GOA membership, I'll try to remember to use the MAC channel link.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:38
Thank you brother.
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User #7360622 - 29 Aug 19 04:28
Fuck me running I wish I knew about that link the other day Haha. I just donated on a whim because I felt like I needed to.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:33
It doesn't matter really, I don't earn any royalties from it. Thank you for joining!
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User #4451683 - 29 Aug 19 04:02
Done. Just joined using your link, a bit embarrassed that I just now joined but I was a little gun shy after what the NRA has turned into. I’m a lifetime member but not so proudly anymore.
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User #4451683 - 29 Aug 19 04:03
Honestly if it hadn’t been for you pushing the GOA I never would’ve looked into them.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:40
Thanks brother!
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User #11596813 - 29 Aug 19 04:21
That is awesome news. I don't remember if I used a link to join GOA or not. I just know that I'm glad I did.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:40
I'm just glad to have you as a member!
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User #8054496 - 29 Aug 19 04:05
Heck yeah! Let’s keep it up and give the freedom haters a fight they’ll never forget!
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:40
Exactly!
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User #5676232 - 29 Aug 19 03:44
That's awesome. Lifetime member here!
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User #11796215 - 29 Aug 19 10:31
You were one of the reasons I joined GOA. But, I didn't even think about your link :-(
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:34
Thank you for joining. The link doens't really matter as I don't earn royalties. They know just as many people, or more, join because I encourage them to and don't use the link. It's not about me, it's about the cause. :D
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User #11796215 - 29 Aug 19 13:06
exactly
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User #5654665 - 29 Aug 19 10:16
Awesome
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User #9260126 - 29 Aug 19 14:29
I also belong to those who started to displace GOA thanks to you Tim and your channel.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 22:39
Thank you.
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User #9048877 - 29 Aug 19 03:55
That doesn't count those of us that donate directly to GOA, but were introduced to them by MAC. I know a good handful of people like that, myself included.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:39
They know that and mentioned it in a call. Their are just as many people, or more, who have joined because of my support of them. It really doesn't matter if my link was used or not as I'm not pay for it being used. Thank you (all of you) for supporting them.
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User #5613568 - 29 Aug 19 04:59
That is so cool Tim! I’m a longtime member of GOA, FPC, and 2nd Amendment Foundation. Hope the doc went well brother!
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:33
Awesome brother!
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User #2807399 - 29 Aug 19 12:10
I've been a GOA member since before I discovered MAC. I truly appreciate the effort you put in. I'm also gonna add a plug for the Second Amendment Foundation, who has been working for our rights in the courts. Use their affiliate link, https://saf.org/amazon, to go to Amazon and the SAF gets a percentage for your purchases at absolutely no cost to you.
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 22:38
SAF is a good group too. I work closely with GOA because they make the effort to work with me. They're transparent and I know they have a long proven history of zero compromise. But SAF and FPC are groups I also support.
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User #7142382 - 29 Aug 19 13:39
I hope that all went well with the doc. As for GOA, I’ve been a life member of GOA and SAF for a decade or so, but GOA started something recently, or at least I didn’t see it until recently, a monthly donation that is automatically debited. It’s a great idea! I signed up and since I don’t have to call or do anything to make it it’s super easy. SAF should do that as well.
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User #5828101 - 29 Aug 19 04:37
hey i was thinking. if youtube and patreon dont like links to freedom deals... what about an email "newsletter" with stuff?? keep going buddy!!
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militaryarms - 29 Aug 19 11:33
Yup, we're looking into that. I'll keep you posted.
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User #5031383 - 29 Aug 19 04:51
GOA rules.
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User #14843187 - 29 Aug 19 11:59
hey, im looking for a really "big gun"
Live on the Sebastian Gorka show.
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I just finished up a live segment on the Sebastian Gorka show. He's a long time viewer of MAC and a strong 2A and pro-liberty voice in the media.

When the stream is over you'll be able to watch it later, or you can scrub back in the timeline now to 26:38 to hear my interview.

Thanks for the support everyone, we couldn't do it without you!

Tim


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User #12932111 - 23 Aug 19 09:12
Thanks Mac keep doing what you’re doing it’s obviously having an affect that’s why the digital goulage that is google and you tube are working around the clock to try and shut you down.
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User #10659837 - 16 Aug 19 22:28
Great interview.
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User #3947639 - 16 Aug 19 21:56
👍👍👍👍
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User #7716809 - 17 Aug 19 04:00
Did you take a breath at all during that interview???? Lots to say and little time to say it. You did a great job!
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militaryarms - 17 Aug 19 15:55
I've done interviews with him before and broadcast shows give you very little time to say things. So I tried to cram as much as I could into the interview.
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User #6432264 - 16 Aug 19 22:25
Good job 👍
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User #3915277 - 17 Aug 19 02:27
starts at 2:17:00
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User #9485637 - 16 Aug 19 21:56
Thanks for doing these interviews Tim. Bill Maher next!😎
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militaryarms - 17 Aug 19 15:56
I don't know that Bill would even consider me for an interview. :)
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User #9485637 - 17 Aug 19 16:47
You probably have to much logic for his viewers.🤫
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User #7142382 - 16 Aug 19 22:24
Thanks for be willing to take the time to do interviews like this one.
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User #20854129 - 17 Aug 19 14:14
I wonder why the gun manufactures are not more vocal about there product and the 2 amendment if they were then we would have more back bone in congress, With them and us the gun owners we might gave a fighting chance against the gun grabbers. Also the gun parts distribtors with all of together we could win the battle against thew
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User #4830414 - 18 Aug 19 19:40
Thank you for speaking with Sebastian! He is helping get out the message. So many people have impressions of gun owners and guns that are wrong. The more we have this forum the less ignorance will allow acceptance of "reasonable" gun control.
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militaryarms - 19 Aug 19 03:01
He’s a great guy and the more I get to know him the more I really like him. Stay tuned for more, we’ve been talking about doing some great things collaboratively.
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User #10009233 - 17 Aug 19 02:23
That's awesome he wants to purchase one of the Tippman's! Great interview
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User #3838796 - 16 Aug 19 22:09
Thanks!
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User #5880838 - 16 Aug 19 23:09
It won’t let me watch it says video unavailable.. 😞
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militaryarms - 17 Aug 19 15:55
Give it a try again. It may have been processing after the stream ended. I just hit play and it worked again.
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User #5880838 - 17 Aug 19 17:45
Thanks Tim!
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User #5880838 - 17 Aug 19 17:46
It still won’t work for me. Darn.
Livestream with Eric Pratt of GOA today at 3pm CST
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Hey all,

I am doing a livestream with Erich Pratt today at 3pm CST. This link will go live then.

We will be discussing pending legislation and possible executive action regarding the 2nd Amendment. Well, in the case of red flag laws and the TAPS Act we're talking about violations of the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments.

Erich will share some ideas on how we can be most effective in this coming fight for our constitutionally protected rights.

Also, on Friday I will be on the Sebastian Gorka show again discussing our rights and the continued fight to preserve and restore them.

Thanks for the support everyone.

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User #10354808 - 15 Aug 19 06:50
When you do state of the 2nd it would be cool to upload them as a podcast also. I like to listen to them as so at work but kills my battery keeping he screen on in my pocket and press buttons.
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User #8304617 - 14 Aug 19 20:30
I was also disappointed with Ben's comments. He has also leaned sort of close to full-auto bans.
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User #13187477 - 14 Aug 19 15:04
Today is my birthday please give me some good news brother
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militaryarms - 14 Aug 19 15:54
Happy birthday!
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User #5709375 - 14 Aug 19 23:30
I think we are screwed. Our only hope is the Supreme Court and/or the Senate. Barr is a gun grabber, and I have little faith in Donald, maybe Don Junior might help. And Dems, we all know what they would love to do.
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User #6947880 - 14 Aug 19 15:20
Awesome! Great discussion on our rights. We need to make sure that people are aware how wrong it is to allow such far reaching actions in the name of “safety” We cannot allow the government continue eroding our rights with these acts. The National Security Act of 1947 and the Patriot Act of 2001 have very far reaching implications that lead us towards a tyrannical government.
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militaryarms - 14 Aug 19 15:55
Agreed. We continue to give more and more power to the government in ways we should never allow. Under the TAPS Act we would give the government power to spy on us without a warrant for example.
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User #6947880 - 14 Aug 19 18:03
F Dat noise!
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User #10061342 - 14 Aug 19 16:21
Tim, would it be possible to write a short summary. Due to different time zones 😎 there is some problem to tune in to Your talks. Keep up excellent work!
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militaryarms - 14 Aug 19 16:24
It will be saved on our YouTube channel for listening or watching at anytime after the livestream.
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User #10196384 - 14 Aug 19 15:14
Will the video be uploaded for viewing later?
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militaryarms - 14 Aug 19 15:53
Yes, it will be available for replay on the YouTube channel.
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User #12932111 - 16 Aug 19 08:52
To Tim and Eric thanks you for keeping up the pressure and the fight to get rid of all these crazy laws take it from us Aussies down under we have seen it all all ready it’s never going to be enough they want it all keep fighting hard and stay strong mate and keep your rights when we had our ludicrous laws passed in 1996 our crime rate in the first year jumped by 50% and in subsequent years it’s had gone up by 80% so we know this crazy stuff doesn’t work and needs to be removed
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militaryarms - 16 Aug 19 19:15
I'm sorry about the state of affairs with our brothers and sisters down under. You're absolutely right, those that think they can appease the anti-gun/anti-liberty forces by surrendering bits and pieces of our rights are setting us up for a complete collapse of our Republic and our liberties. The very definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over again yet each time expecting a different result. The anti-gun/anti-freedom forces have proved many times over they cannot be appeased. They want it all.
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User #10354808 - 15 Aug 19 07:53
I need to be in the habit of carrying more. I do often but am not aloud to carry into or while working so after work my carry often gets left in the car if I run errands. Also my work set to have our security staff be trained and to carry which I approve. It’s weird hearing workers complaining about it yet it’s a huge push towards making places commonly targeted for shootings safer instead of gun control. A lot of the people I hear are pro gun and gun owners. One of those “you cant make anyone happy” moments i suppose.
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User #5613568 - 14 Aug 19 15:55
Brother I love to see you getting on these shows and getting our message of peace and safety through strength out to the public. Please take every sensible opportunity to do so. You know you come off well when you’re preaching to the choir but it’s the congregation out in the pews and standing in the back that need to hear what we have to say. We especially need to get in the ears of anyone on the fence when it comes to things like red flag laws. You wouldn’t believe how many people don’t know that they violate due process. Because of my medical situation, I come in contact with a lot of non gun types and when I explain that red flag laws allow for ex parte hearings and punishment before the crime, nearly all good, thinking people cringe. Lastly, the mention of the idea that these laws are just rife with the potential of abuse and potentially very costly to the defendant whether deemed a danger or not as being forced to retain legal counsel to help you wade through the always intentionally complex legal jargon could financially devastate even the well prepared. We must stop this crap from becoming law.
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militaryarms - 14 Aug 19 16:26
Thank you and I agree. That's why I'm accepting offers to do national shows like Mr. Gorka's. I've declined some interview offers with outlets like CNN but I've done them with Reuters and even NPR.
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User #5613568 - 14 Aug 19 17:52
Good for you, Tim. I wouldn’t give CNN the privilege of your knowledge and experience. The only benefit I can see is that you might reach people that you normally wouldn’t. They would just try to twist everything you say into a negative.
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User #10164098 - 14 Aug 19 23:31
When are Tim and Larry going to realize that the Republicans are not on our side? The Libertarian Party is the only political party in the US that actually believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
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militaryarms - 16 Aug 19 01:11
The entire steam we said that the Republicans can't be trusted and they've passed more gun control in my lifetime than the Democrats have. :)
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User #10164098 - 16 Aug 19 13:53
But your proposed solution was to threaten current Republicans with the possibility of replacing them with ... wait for it ... more unprincipled spineless Republicans. I hate to say it, but I am reminded of one of the definitions of insanity. I am a Patreon because I think you (Tim) are the most passionate, dedicated, heartfelt, and well-spoken defender of the 2A I have ever seen. Same goes for Erich. I contribute to MAC and GOA every month. But I really have to question your collective wisdom on the long-term political strategy.
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User #11596813 - 14 Aug 19 16:08
I start work at 3 pm cst so I will have to watch it on replay.
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User #20272834 - 14 Aug 19 15:33
Girls is someone we need to exploit or empower to speak for the gun community. He may still have the ear of the President directly or indirectly. Not sure how to motivate him to act, but he is part of big media!
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User #8054496 - 15 Aug 19 21:50
Thanks Erich & Tim. Lots of good info.
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militaryarms - 16 Aug 19 01:12
Thank you, Tyler.
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User #6941731 - 15 Aug 19 13:27
Here is a perfect example of Redflag laws in action! This will be used against anyone that steps out of line. The Gestapo! https://truepundit.com/video-police-bomb-squad-there-were-snipers-on-the-rooftops/
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User #23111999 - 15 Aug 19 01:02
Jesus, I'm gonna have to Vote for John McAfee. But then again after a Reality TV Host, is it so strange?
Livestream with Erich Pratt of GOA
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Wednesday the 14th at 3pm CST I will be going live with my friend Erich Pratt of GOA to discuss pending legislation and how we can organize a national resistance to any infringements on our rights.

Right now it looks like the Republicans and Democrats are supporting "red flag laws" or "risk protection orders". These are HIGHLY dangerous laws that allow a judge, in complete secrecy, to issue a warrant to strip you of your rights and property thus deeming you guilty of being unworthy of your liberty. Now it's up to you to prove your innocence by challenging the order in court. This costs a lot of money and time, something most of us don't have. It's another incremental step towards tyranny.

Worse, because this is done in secrecy and the victim has no idea the police are storming their house to strip them of their property, victims who believe they've done nothing wrong may think they're being assaulted and respond accordingly. This has gotten people killed already in states that have such laws.

We can't sit idly by while our government enacts unconstitutional laws that deny us our basic human rights such as the presumption of innocence. Even the UN acknowledges the presumption of innocence as a basic human right. We can't let these politicians dismantle the Constitution like this.

Worse, let's say the red flag law takes the guns from an actual would-be killer. Great, now the guns are in jail but the lunatic is still wandering the streets. The threat is still there and the law did nothing to change the potential outcome.

We'll talk about this, and more in greater detail in our livestream. I'm going to ask the GOA if they will back my desire to call for marches on all state capitals in protest of these new unconstitutional bills being proposed.

I'm spinning up to fight again out of necessity. It's time we set aside our differences as a community and fight along side each other in defense of liberty.

Tim


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User #5654665 - 7 Aug 19 17:11
Patreon only or YT stream??????????
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 18:08
It’s a YouTube stream so we can reach more people.
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User #5654665 - 7 Aug 19 18:14
Excellent
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User #4612564 - 7 Aug 19 18:10
I'm going to be at work, so I hope that you upload it to your channel!
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User #9239398 - 7 Aug 19 16:06
I’m doing what I can to spread the word on such laws. Unfortunately a lot of idiotic conservative/Trump supporters are buying into the lies that these laws prevent mass shootings. I can’t wait for the livestream.
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User #5672439 - 7 Aug 19 19:07
Same in my neck of the woods... it’s frustrating
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User #8024430 - 7 Aug 19 20:59
Tim and MAC Followers: I received yet another solicitation from Uncle Wayne at the NRA today via email. I responded by following to the "Contact us" link on the email and submitted the following email. I suggest every NRA (especially LIFE members) do the same.
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User #8024430 - 7 Aug 19 21:01
Sent today to the NRA: I have been solicited by Wayne LaPierre to upgrade my Life Membership to the Benefactor level, as I have for previous upgrades. Given the current turmoil within the organization and Wayne's refusal to submit the NRA to an independent financial audit (among many other things) I will not contribute one more dime to the NRA until Wayne and the current management and board all step down. The life members need to have the power to elect a new board and install new officers, or the NRA will burn to the ground. I continue to support other organizations including GOA, SAF and a few others with my hard-earned cash every month - but the NRA has failed it's membership, and the current "leadership" needs to resign and step away from any involvement with the organization. Respectfully submitted, Tom Danner NRA Patron Life Member NRA Range Safety Officer
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User #10418753 - 7 Aug 19 16:07
Count me in.
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User #21868633 - 7 Aug 19 19:59
Insanity even lindsay Graham is reported to be supporting these Red Flag Laws. Insane. Our founding fathers would be rolling over in thier graves if they knew how badly our political system has been compromised
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User #13187477 - 7 Aug 19 16:12
I believe United we stand divided we fall but let's be careful to not have sell outs in our ranks
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 18:12
If someone is an outright sellout (supports any type of tyrannical law) then I agree.
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User #5654665 - 7 Aug 19 17:11
I’m inviting my whole neighborhood and all my coworkers
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User #3947639 - 7 Aug 19 16:47
If I heard Sen. Graham correctly his bill says a hearing will convene in 7 days and the state will have the burden of proof. During this 7 days the subject will keep hold of his guns until a final decision is made. This is my understanding but I could be wrong.
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User #5880838 - 7 Aug 19 16:08
Let’s do this I’m behind you.
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User #4927226 - 7 Aug 19 16:26
Tim... I ask that you stop even your grudging support for Trump. I am almost to the point where Trump support is like support of the NRA. We must not support the enablers of tyranny. A Trump victory in 2020 sets us back at least four years of trying to fix the GOP. We must create a 1992 situation where Trump loses because of a third party (hopefully Amash) candidate. We cannot afford four more years of this New York Democrat moulding the GOP in his image.
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User #9384604 - 7 Aug 19 16:30
I agree with this, so long as Republicans can hold the Senate. Not that I'm a huge fan of Republicans, but if the Democrats control the House, Senate, and The White House, then we're screwed. We're not getting any rights back.
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User #4927226 - 7 Aug 19 17:16
With Republicans like Graham, Rubio, Scott, Romney, Murkowski, Collins, Hawley, Toomey, and Roberts, who needs Democrats?
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User #5633296 - 7 Aug 19 16:56
One thing I have not heard anyone talk about is misuse of this red flag law. For instance, a neighbor gets pissed of at the guy next door because his dog barks, he sees him leave for the range with guns, calls the cops and says the guy waves guns and makes threats. Boom the poor bastard is in the sights of this red flag law.
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 18:10
We’ve talked about it and will again in this stream.
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User #5632855 - 7 Aug 19 16:06
Let's do this!
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User #6430857 - 7 Aug 19 17:33
Can you have Erich provide easy to consume data on the documented abuses of red flag laws on the books? I think Republicans are not thinking deep enough into the devil in the details and will otherwise get on board with a seemingly harmless law that have bipartisan support. I would like to be able to forward my legislators data and not talking points and concerns.
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User #12240550 - 7 Aug 19 16:09
If GOA does a march in my state you best believe I'll be there as long as I can get away from work. Would be really nice it it was a weekend.
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User #6182951 - 7 Aug 19 16:46
I just became a lifetime member of the GOA!!! It is time to march and to have our voices heard. We need to write our congressional representatives and tell them to uphold the constitution and not give in to the emotional arguments of folks screaming gun control. The narrative has far too long been controlled by one side! I am tired of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and the main stream media silencing law abiding citizens discussing our God given right to protect ourselves. Tim, I will back you 100 percent!
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User #6393403 - 7 Aug 19 20:11
Tim, I absolutely agree with your last statement about putting aside our differences and fighting together. That’s why I feel that you and others who have been hammering away at the NRA and cancelling your memberships are playing right into the anti-gunner's hands......divide and conquer. First of all, nothing has been proven, only alleged, and due process is one of our mantras, especially with regards to Red-Flag Laws. Let’s practice what we preach. Secondly, over the years the NRA has not only worked on advancing our cause, but also been responsible for training on a large scale and sponsoring and fostering competition. Third and probably most importantly, if they succeed in bringing down the NRA then GOA, 2AF and all of the others will be targeted and ultimately brought down next. So let’s unite and continue to support the NRA (at least for now) and all of the pro-gun groups and maybe we can ultimately win the fight.
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 21:34
I am in touch with others inside the NRA who support our efforts out there in social media. They need the pressure to unroot the corruption that will NOT help us in our current fight. Under Wayne, you will have the NRA supporting a AWB in back channels just as they did in 1994. They'll tell their membership they're fighting against it, but they will allow it to move forward in exchange for money and power. I didn't start out on the warpath with the NRA haphazardly. We need them in the fight. There are still good men and women there, but they're fighting an uphill battle against a corrupt leadership that will sell us out time and time again just as they recently did on bumpstocks and as they're currently doing on red flag laws. Please try to understand the NRA isn't your salvation, that's Ackerman McQueen propaganda.
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 21:35
"They" won't bring down the GOA, SAF or FPC because they're not corrupt to their very core and actively working against us.
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User #7348815 - 7 Aug 19 16:54
“We can't sit idly by while our government enacts unconstitutional laws...” Agreed, but we can’t sit idly by while scores of innocent people are getting senselessly mowed down either. As a daily carrier, Dayton and Vegas scare me because it shows the limits of what CCW holders carrying little single stack pistols can do frankly. I’m interested in getting the most effective policies, and while we may not agree on these laws in the end I’ll be very curious to hear you and Erich’s thoughts. Thanks again!
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User #5633296 - 7 Aug 19 17:00
Oh and milsurp mike, you have your head in your ass about the election if you think one of the radical leftists on the democratic side is a better choice. With an attitude like that what are you even doing here?
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User #4927226 - 7 Aug 19 17:33
With Trump, Graham, Rubio, Scott, Toomey, Romney, Hawley, Roberts, Collins, Murkowski, King (NY), and Chenshaw, who needs Democrats? We have got to stop the GOP slide left and it seems the only way to do that is to take a loss due to a third candidate. There would have been no 94 landslide without Perot in 92. There would have been no Tea Party without the 08 election. Trump is moulding the GOP in his image and it will take years to undo the damage unless it is stopped. We can survive two years (or if they go too far, at least we are still armed and still have spirit). What we cannot survive is the GOP slowly giving away our rights while people still support them because "the other side is worse" or "he pisses liberals off".
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 18:09
Let’s not attack each other, please. We are all friends here. Let’s talk through our options. We don’t need allies fighting right now. 👍
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User #5654665 - 7 Aug 19 18:21
I understand where both of you are coming from completely. Allan yes economically and general policy issues a bunch of democrats would be terrible for our culture and regulatory laws on everyday life. Therefore I completely agree with you that voting for them is a terrible idea! Yet I also understand what mike is saying. On the Constitutional front at least we would be able to easily identify our enemies and clearly determine a tipping point before we get regulated into oblivion by 1,000 paper cuts. The only problem is that it requires a fight much sooner. So there you have it both valid point but different paths to get there. I am praying We have a great spiritual awakening and turn this country around peacefully however the good lord may have given our country over to its depraved mind. So truth is none of us know exactly what to do but I will say this as a first step a million of us on the national mall with strict expectations of courtesy and professionalism could not hurt it would only help so let’s try that first.
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User #8907965 - 7 Aug 19 18:19
I posted a little bit ago on another thread, but supporting the leosa reform act can be a good start for opening up gun free zones. It has support from just about all police agencies.
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I have gotten a number of emails and PM's asking if we were going to have a new t-shirt store. The answer is yes! We've partnered up with BallisticInk and our new store is now live. You can find it here:

https://ballisticink.com/collections/military-arms-channel

Use the code "MAC10" at checkout for 10% off!

Thanks for the continued support!

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User #14612193 - 5 Aug 19 04:33
Thank God, because I wanted to get that Mrgunsngear shirt that said "dialing scares me" but drama happened...
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User #5604268 - 5 Aug 19 00:33
Do you make any money off the shirts? And if no, why not?!?!? Great designs Tim!
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User #2807399 - 5 Aug 19 13:26
Still no tall sizes... For tall people these are "belly shirts". :(
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militaryarms - 7 Aug 19 01:05
How tall are ya? I'm of goofy proportions and these fit me.
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User #2807399 - 7 Aug 19 12:37
6'3", but have a long torso. Only t-shirts that will stay tucked in when I move are Lands End XLT. Hate having to tuck my shirt in 100 times a day.
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User #8370195 - 5 Aug 19 03:08
Can we get the story about what happened with “forged from freedom”?
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User #5799577 - 7 Aug 19 17:25
Thanks Tim, I needed a few new “anti commie” tee’s & yours are classics. Love the “tools of trade”. :)
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User #8891528 - 5 Aug 19 00:32
For those asking what happened to the old store, I'll just direct you to Hank Strange's channel
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User #6425982 - 5 Aug 19 00:40
Go to The Yankee Marshal or NeverEnufAmmo channels, and listen to the other side of the story.
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User #8891528 - 5 Aug 19 00:43
I agree, listen to all sides and form your own opinion. I should have mentioned that as well. I'm personally not a fan of Hank Strange, but I'll be honest, when all of this stuff went down...I lost a lot of respect for all parties involved, they all handled it very unprofessionally, mainly FFF and Hank though
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User #12240550 - 5 Aug 19 00:51
Can I get a TL;DR of the story?
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User #8891528 - 5 Aug 19 00:54
FFF didn't pay Hank and a bunch of other people, Hank had a hissy fit on internet. Yankee Marshal, FFF, and NeverEnuffAmmo all basically said Hank was a liar. Hank tried defending himself, shots were fired by all parties, and it was a huge shit show. As a result, it appears that MAC and Mr. GunsnGear pulled their products from FFF.
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User #4927848 - 5 Aug 19 01:02
This sums up about a weeks worth of “content”
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User #8891528 - 5 Aug 19 01:04
Tyler, yeah, I'm just sick of it at this point. Like I said, I've distanced myself from all parties because of how juvenile they all acted. Were wrong and inappropriate things done? Oh hell yeah, but don't act like a child about it and settle your matters privately instead of turning all of your social media platforms into a massive bashing spree.
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User #6895194 - 7 Aug 19 00:27
I unsubed Hank after that, the whole public shaming of FFF for not paying up was off putting...he is obviously going thru financial problems. Business matters are private matters. That being said, what broke the camels back was when Hank publicly outed Yankee’s sexual orientation. That was just a low blow!
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User #8891528 - 7 Aug 19 00:30
I'm still not sure if that last one is even completely true, I always thought he had a wife and just adopted his kids...not that it matters. Hank did act inappropriately with the content he had, especially that last video you spoke of. But FFF isn't free from blame either, they were screwing over the people they sponsored, all around shit show.
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User #8891528 - 15 Sep 19 02:55
After years of watching MAC, I've finally bought a MAC shirt to show off my favorite GunTuber. Hope Ballistic Ink is here to stay, they say they work with veterans so that's a huge plus in my mind.
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User #6929560 - 5 Aug 19 00:31
What happened to the other store?
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User #7101862 - 5 Aug 19 00:30
What happened to the old T-shirt store?
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User #12940693 - 5 Aug 19 16:45
No talls?
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militaryarms - 13 Aug 19 03:39
I don’t think the printer has them in stock. I’m really tall and the XL’s fit me perfectly.
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User #16540110 - 5 Aug 19 00:31
Are they available at the copper customs?
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User #5676232 - 5 Aug 19 00:59
In for a black camo hat. Thanks for code!
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User #7142382 - 5 Aug 19 01:26
Totally cool! And a special thank you for having women’s shirts.
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User #6432264 - 5 Aug 19 00:52
Awesome 👍👍
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User #7703812 - 5 Aug 19 02:25
I thought for sure you'd go with Bunker Branding.
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User #6375638 - 5 Aug 19 01:15
Had to read the other comments because I must have missed MAC not working with FFF anymore.
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Hey all,

Thanks to your overwhelming approval, we've moved forward with establishing a relationship with USCCA. This is our affiliate link:

https://tracking.deltadefense.com/aff_c?offer_id=94&aff_id=18652

Here in the future we will do a livestream with a USCCA representative to explain how being a member benefits anyone who carries a firearm for defensive purposes.

Thank you again for supporting MAC and supporting our growth! We will soon have our own range (God willing) which will allow us to seriously crank up the volume of videos. The plan right now is to close at the end of August. That means September should be a breakout month for us in terms of video content creation. We couldn't do it without you and your support!

Tim

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User #6433843 - 30 Jul 19 23:31
Thanks Tim me and wife were just looking into it!!
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User #835251 - 30 Jul 19 23:53
I have been a member for a few years now. Just since I turned 21 and got my CHL.
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User #7307354 - 30 Jul 19 23:34
Like you and Jason they seem to be good people. Maybe you can arrange a visit to their HQ, it is about 30 min from where I live.
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User #5644396 - 30 Jul 19 23:54
Welcome to USCCA! I believe this will be a beneficial arrangement.
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User #15041217 - 30 Jul 19 23:42
Congratulations and looking forward to your future content
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User #5656411 - 30 Jul 19 23:32
I think Tim Schmidt himself should make an appearance on your channel.
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User #6991928 - 30 Jul 19 23:42
Not sure if the link is active yet, I’m only getting “The requested URL /aff_c was not found on this server.” I’m very interested so thanks for this Tim!
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User #5747617 - 30 Jul 19 23:51
Good on you MAC
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User #9048877 - 30 Jul 19 23:53
That's great news! Carry insurance is absolutely essential, and no one does it better than USCCA. John Lovell has a really great video with an attorney who specializes in gun cases, talking about how expensive it can be to defend yourself in a legitimate self-defense situation. Get insurance.
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User #7142382 - 30 Jul 19 23:32
I’m already a USCCA member, but I assume that I can renew when my membership is up through your portal. If you don’t mind could you cover that I’m the video or by PM? 👍
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User #5633296 - 30 Jul 19 23:41
Sounds great Tim! Looking forward to more great vids. I think you should put it to a pol about getting sponsorship for your tried and true gear. That gear only, like CZ. I started buying CZ because of your glowing reports and vids on them and i now own a scorpion and two pistols I love. Doing this is not the same as "whoring" yourself out to every dildo that waves a check at you.
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User #5630712 - 30 Jul 19 23:29
Think it’s a good choice. They are great people.
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User #17918009 - 30 Jul 19 23:36
Tim, I will do my own research on their site before I pull the trigger and pick it up for my family. But I’d love for Tim Schmidt himself time come on and discuss WHY USCCA is better than other insurances. The “What makes us different than other companies in our field?” is what I’m truly after. Maybe a history of oddball cases that they’ve wrangled out of prosecutors hands and gotten members back home not charged that otherwise wouldn’t have because of xxx or yyyy... those types of differentiators
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militaryarms - 31 Jul 19 00:01
I think a chat with a representative from USCCA will go a long way in answering such questions. I personally chose them a year ago because of their reputation from people who have used their services. Making such a decision isn't something one should take lightly.
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User #18252402 - 30 Jul 19 23:48
Awesome, my wife and I have been members for a few years now. I love the extra security they provide.
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User #829206 - 30 Jul 19 23:34
Onward and upward!
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User #7463851 - 30 Jul 19 23:30
Hopefully this will seriously help offset your losses in Patreon support, keep up the good work guys!
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User #8983972 - 30 Jul 19 23:48
Carry on, good sir!!
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User #6880645 - 30 Jul 19 23:32
I’m already an Elite member but I guess when it’s time for me to renew I can go through your affiliate link. Whatever I can do to support y’all!
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User #9940374 - 30 Jul 19 23:35
Maybe you should provide options with a similar relationship with https://armedcitizensnetwork.org
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User #7562646 - 30 Jul 19 23:34
Signed the wife and I up last month!
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It's funny to see how many people have mimicked, to some degree, my "gauntlet test". At 8:30 in this video you will see the new P365 XL struggle through the mud test they've duplicated from my testing. I guess I don't need to do it now. :D

I have one of the XL's on the way! I found one on gunbroker. We'll see if it resolves any of the issues I've had with the P365. I'm hearing the striker drag is considerably reduced from a buddy. We shall see.

Tim


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User #20272834 - 14 Jul 19 00:02
Saw you in a vid at CZ's European YouTuber and press function. Looked like a awesome event. Hope did you like the Scorpion rifle?
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User #5605812 - 13 Jul 19 22:30
Want to trade one if those 365s for an m&p compact 9 2.0? I'm looking for something smaller. I will even trade for a broken one. 👍
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User #5613568 - 13 Jul 19 23:49
I found another gun tuber I WONT be subbing.
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User #5634858 - 13 Jul 19 22:33
No one can do the gauntlet like you Tim, great to see more people doing tests like that but these guys are obviously far from impartial, they have to sell those at the end of the day. Also watching him shoot with his eyes closed made me cringe 😖
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User #5643779 - 13 Jul 19 22:35
When the sig reps can’t get their own pistols to function on a plagiarized gauntlet test. Hahahahha
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User #7728384 - 13 Jul 19 22:29
The only Sig I would even consider buying now is one made before they started building them here, preferably a West German version.
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User #12447614 - 13 Jul 19 22:52
Why in THE HECK would you do that test indoors???
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User #10411670 - 14 Jul 19 01:38
I thought the same thing, but not everyone has the luxury of an outdoor range.
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User #7806417 - 13 Jul 19 22:22
Frogbones is where I do most of my shooting. I am defiantly going to check out the 365XL there. Looks like they did their testing and shooting on the small range. No wonder it was closed.
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User #11012356 - 13 Jul 19 22:43
We got one in in the shop, lasted a day on the shelf, apparently we were lucky to get that one cause they’ve all been allocated, it felt nice in the hand but I still just can’t trust em, I’ll stick with my CZ and glocks
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User #7255516 - 13 Jul 19 22:39
They showed the gun. They shot the gun. They mud tested the gun. They shot the gun again. They never showed an impact on a target. They could have been shooting at the wall for all I know. Can they really shoot or are they just salesmen? How accurate was it for them?
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User #5680957 - 13 Jul 19 23:51
Even a camera man named Jason. Have you ever seen the movie Single White Female? Better watch out? 😂. They might have wanted to replicate your face mask and poncho too though...
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User #5599221 - 13 Jul 19 22:24
The best form of compliment is imitation I suppose... lol
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User #6055875 - 14 Jul 19 00:46
After watching MAC and Paul Harrell, most other gun content online is nothing but boring and cringe and this was no exception.
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User #7168884 - 13 Jul 19 22:35
Looking at their ceiling, I don't know if I would be comfortable shooting there....
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User #9684556 - 13 Jul 19 22:39
Lol, that's what happens when you shoot with your eyes closed
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User #8983972 - 13 Jul 19 22:39
Imitation is the sincerest form of envy. They could at least have given MAC some shout-out, Tim!
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User #9251056 - 14 Jul 19 00:41
that was no test if they had not so wet and shock it so hard i would not watched if they would filled the packed mud in the chamber.
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User #7376729 - 14 Jul 19 00:46
No surprise in the result. Light could be seen through the gap between the slide and the frame when they held the gun up. That's a recipe for junk getting into the action. Tim, I'd love to see a 3rd generation Smith & Wesson run through the gauntlet. Maybe a police trade in 5906 or 6904. They are sealed up pretty well and crazy reliable.
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User #7511821 - 14 Jul 19 00:48
I have one on order at my lgs. They told me a Sig rep said last week thousands go out this week to distributors but we will see.
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User #13057726 - 13 Jul 19 23:03
It would have been nice to see a group size with the hollow points but it is what it is. Still not really that impressed with this platform overall. I have shot the 365 at my local dealer and just wasn’t that impressed. Admittedly though I’m not a striker fired fan in general. Grew up on DA revolvers and still prefer DA guns in both pistols and revolvers. Hope the new gun works out for you Tim. Your luck has to turn around at some point.
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User #6930562 - 13 Jul 19 23:10
Why was he flinching with every shot? If he is afraid of the gun he shouldn't be making videos. Sounds like an absolute idiot.
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Independence Day is one of my favorite non-Hallmark Holiday celebrations. Why? Because it marks the founding of our great nation where all people, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc. all live free. It's a celebration of not just our liberty, but also our diversity as a nation, something that gives us great strength.

I know a lot of folks will be cooking out, drinking and shooting off fireworks today. Have fun, be safe, and never forget that we live in the greatest nation on earth!

Thank you for the continued support! We couldn't exist without it.

Tim & Jason

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User #4934320 - 4 Jul 19 16:18
Long live the Republic!!
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User #6432264 - 4 Jul 19 14:41
Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸 to all
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User #5880838 - 4 Jul 19 14:39
Happy Birthday America! 🇺🇸 Everyone have a fun and safe Independence Day!
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User #11596813 - 4 Jul 19 14:51
Happy Independence Day Everyone. We all need to remember that is what is really being celebrated today. We are celebrating the beginning of our fight for independence from a tyrannical government. That seems to be lost in this day and age.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 15:00
A lot of our history is obscured, mostly for political reasons. It’s something we should strive to reverse because those that don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 15:00
A lot of our history is obscured, mostly for political reasons. It’s something we should strive to reverse because those that don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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User #11596813 - 4 Jul 19 15:09
Absolutely
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User #11596813 - 4 Jul 19 15:09
Absolutely
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User #10128402 - 4 Jul 19 15:49
Hey Tim, are you the same Tim Allen from last man standing? The show that was yanked by liberals, or just some real sensitive folk. Till he found a different channel to run his new episodes on. Happy 4th to you all. Be safe and enjoy. Thanks MAC for all you do. SFMFs . Carry On
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User #10128402 - 4 Jul 19 15:49
Hey Tim, are you the same Tim Allen from last man standing? The show that was yanked by liberals, or just some real sensitive folk. Till he found a different channel to run his new episodes on. Happy 4th to you all. Be safe and enjoy. Thanks MAC for all you do. SFMFs . Carry On
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User #11596813 - 4 Jul 19 16:24
No, I am not that Tim Allen. We just happen to have the same name.
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User #11596813 - 4 Jul 19 16:24
No, I am not that Tim Allen. We just happen to have the same name.
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User #8148271 - 4 Jul 19 14:38
Happy 4th to everyone at MAC. God bless
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User #5595459 - 4 Jul 19 14:36
Sorry but diversity being our strength is one of the greatest lies we’re told. If it was true, it would be self evident not need repeated over and over without a single shred of proof.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 14:58
I’m the son of a second generation immigrant. Do you believe I don’t contribute to the country? My legal name is Tim, not Timothy. That’s because my name was handed down from my fathers father. He picked an Anerican sounding name and didn’t know that Timothy was the proper name. So he became Tim, as did my father and then me.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 14:58
I’m the son of a second generation immigrant. Do you believe I don’t contribute to the country? My legal name is Tim, not Timothy. That’s because my name was handed down from my fathers father. He picked an Anerican sounding name and didn’t know that Timothy was the proper name. So he became Tim, as did my father and then me.
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User #5595459 - 4 Jul 19 15:17
I never said that nor implied it. The diversity we are supposed to celebrate has taken identity politics to astronomical levels that are putting the first and second amendment under pressure. “Hate speech” laws protecting certain groups, while others can be slandered without end. Voting habits of first generation immigrants as well show there’s little support for the 2nd amendment( I won’t get into the Republicans sucking, just based on voting at state and federal level). The next amnesty will make Texas blue, given they have the same demographics that California did in the 1980s. California is a cesspool for gun rights, as everyone knows. If you’re fighting for the second amendment and don’t recognize the uphill battle it faces because of demographics shifting, the I just don’t think you’re being honest with yourself. We’re never going to rid of the awful gun control passed previously, yet alone fend off more gun control from the federal level once states like Georgia, Texas, North Carolina and Florida turn permanently blue. That’s my 2 cents. Happy Independence Day!
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User #5595459 - 4 Jul 19 15:17
I never said that nor implied it. The diversity we are supposed to celebrate has taken identity politics to astronomical levels that are putting the first and second amendment under pressure. “Hate speech” laws protecting certain groups, while others can be slandered without end. Voting habits of first generation immigrants as well show there’s little support for the 2nd amendment( I won’t get into the Republicans sucking, just based on voting at state and federal level). The next amnesty will make Texas blue, given they have the same demographics that California did in the 1980s. California is a cesspool for gun rights, as everyone knows. If you’re fighting for the second amendment and don’t recognize the uphill battle it faces because of demographics shifting, the I just don’t think you’re being honest with yourself. We’re never going to rid of the awful gun control passed previously, yet alone fend off more gun control from the federal level once states like Georgia, Texas, North Carolina and Florida turn permanently blue. That’s my 2 cents. Happy Independence Day!
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User #12374854 - 4 Jul 19 18:42
Hey Troy, I’m one of those CA residents suffering the “diversity is our strength” lie. Even if race had nothing to do with it, the voting habits of people of certain cultures is absolutely hurting my family. We are trying to relocate, but I’d be lying if I said I thought it would matter. Texas is my first choice, but I’m dreading it being CA#2. My husband works in the semiconductor industry, so he has to work near San Jose. Houses down there are all over $1 million, so our 4 kids (who I have to homeschool because the ghetto schools suck) and I live in Sacramento and he just comes home on the weekend. Sac is ghetto, so is San Jose, but at least Sac is cheap. Quality of life right now is pretty bad, I mean, I’m sure it’s better than Haiti, but it still sucks. It takes him 4 hours to get home when he does come home so when the homeless black dude was drinking from my hose and rummaging in my trash cans last Tuesday night, and I open the door (not the security door—kept that closed) to ask if he was okay, and he says, “I got a Glock 30, don’t come out here,” well, I’m on my own... I had my Glock, too, but I’m not getting in a shootout over water with my kids sleeping inside, so I told him to have as much water as he needed. Anyway, what does diversity have to do with why we can’t afford a million dollar house in San Jose? Well, the only people buying houses down there are Chinese, as in, from China. A lot of them are either getting money from their government or rich relatives (all that cheap junk we bought made them pretty rich—actually, I don’t buy much “slow boat from China” stuff, and I restrict what the grandparents are allowed to buy the kids). The Bay Area, really looks like a third world country in a lot of ways now. Mexicans and Southeast Asians living 15 deep in single-family homes. People living in garages. Tent cities. California is just a fucking mess. Apparently the state is very wealthy, too, so why is it like this? Could it be all the different people all fighting for their own interests, some of which are in direct conflict with some other groups’ interests? Oh, and just so y’all know I’m not just some evil racist, I hate the White leftists the most. They voted for this shit. Ted Kennedy can kiss my feet...
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User #12374854 - 4 Jul 19 18:42
Hey Troy, I’m one of those CA residents suffering the “diversity is our strength” lie. Even if race had nothing to do with it, the voting habits of people of certain cultures is absolutely hurting my family. We are trying to relocate, but I’d be lying if I said I thought it would matter. Texas is my first choice, but I’m dreading it being CA#2. My husband works in the semiconductor industry, so he has to work near San Jose. Houses down there are all over $1 million, so our 4 kids (who I have to homeschool because the ghetto schools suck) and I live in Sacramento and he just comes home on the weekend. Sac is ghetto, so is San Jose, but at least Sac is cheap. Quality of life right now is pretty bad, I mean, I’m sure it’s better than Haiti, but it still sucks. It takes him 4 hours to get home when he does come home so when the homeless black dude was drinking from my hose and rummaging in my trash cans last Tuesday night, and I open the door (not the security door—kept that closed) to ask if he was okay, and he says, “I got a Glock 30, don’t come out here,” well, I’m on my own... I had my Glock, too, but I’m not getting in a shootout over water with my kids sleeping inside, so I told him to have as much water as he needed. Anyway, what does diversity have to do with why we can’t afford a million dollar house in San Jose? Well, the only people buying houses down there are Chinese, as in, from China. A lot of them are either getting money from their government or rich relatives (all that cheap junk we bought made them pretty rich—actually, I don’t buy much “slow boat from China” stuff, and I restrict what the grandparents are allowed to buy the kids). The Bay Area, really looks like a third world country in a lot of ways now. Mexicans and Southeast Asians living 15 deep in single-family homes. People living in garages. Tent cities. California is just a fucking mess. Apparently the state is very wealthy, too, so why is it like this? Could it be all the different people all fighting for their own interests, some of which are in direct conflict with some other groups’ interests? Oh, and just so y’all know I’m not just some evil racist, I hate the White leftists the most. They voted for this shit. Ted Kennedy can kiss my feet...
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User #12374854 - 4 Jul 19 19:26
Tim, did you really think anything Troy said implied he believes you don’t contribute? Surely, you can see he wasn’t implying a family like yours is the issue. Follow up question, why do you believe diversity is one of our greatest strengths? The word itself isn’t bad. I like my local gun store because they have a “diverse” selection. Actually, for Commiefornia, I have a pretty sweet LGS. Anyway, I guess I’m just curious if you actually believe that line “diversity is one of our greatest strengths,” or if you put that to be more appealing to a broader audience. A lot of people hear “gun owner” and think “racist White guy,” so I can see wanting to shed that stereotype. Part of me thinks you’re maybe not as aware of just how many crazies are on the other side. You know those whack jobs who post weird comments on your videos, like they want to stick your gun up your butt because you hunted a deer? Yeah, I went to school with “winners” like that. I bet over 50% of the negative comments you get are from the Bay Area. Anyway, Happy Independence Day! Gonna bump fire today?
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User #12374854 - 4 Jul 19 19:26
Tim, did you really think anything Troy said implied he believes you don’t contribute? Surely, you can see he wasn’t implying a family like yours is the issue. Follow up question, why do you believe diversity is one of our greatest strengths? The word itself isn’t bad. I like my local gun store because they have a “diverse” selection. Actually, for Commiefornia, I have a pretty sweet LGS. Anyway, I guess I’m just curious if you actually believe that line “diversity is one of our greatest strengths,” or if you put that to be more appealing to a broader audience. A lot of people hear “gun owner” and think “racist White guy,” so I can see wanting to shed that stereotype. Part of me thinks you’re maybe not as aware of just how many crazies are on the other side. You know those whack jobs who post weird comments on your videos, like they want to stick your gun up your butt because you hunted a deer? Yeah, I went to school with “winners” like that. I bet over 50% of the negative comments you get are from the Bay Area. Anyway, Happy Independence Day! Gonna bump fire today?
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 23:12
I get what you're saying but you're assuming the shift in politics here in the US is somehow tied to other cultures and didn't, or wasn't, able to grow here on its own. I think it is home grown and has been slowly growing since the 1960's. I don't believe immigrants brought about this political paradigm shift. I think our own home grown politicians are responsible, not another other culture. This nation was built on immigrants from all over the world. I really do believe our diversity is a strength. I came to this conclusion while in the military. I grew up in a small town that wasn't diverse. As a young man going into the military and dropped into a very diverse group of people, it was a bit of a culture shock for me. It honestly made me a far better man. America only has one indigenous group of people that were here long before the rest of us, that would be Native Americans. Outside of that, the vast majority of Americans are from other places around the world. It's because our Founders were aware America would be a beacon of hope and pospertiry for others who wished to flee their native homes to come here and build a better life for themselves and their families. I don't see how that is a bad thing. I am, however, open to what others have to say. I'm not claiming to be right, but I do honestly believe what I said.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 23:12
I get what you're saying but you're assuming the shift in politics here in the US is somehow tied to other cultures and didn't, or wasn't, able to grow here on its own. I think it is home grown and has been slowly growing since the 1960's. I don't believe immigrants brought about this political paradigm shift. I think our own home grown politicians are responsible, not another other culture. This nation was built on immigrants from all over the world. I really do believe our diversity is a strength. I came to this conclusion while in the military. I grew up in a small town that wasn't diverse. As a young man going into the military and dropped into a very diverse group of people, it was a bit of a culture shock for me. It honestly made me a far better man. America only has one indigenous group of people that were here long before the rest of us, that would be Native Americans. Outside of that, the vast majority of Americans are from other places around the world. It's because our Founders were aware America would be a beacon of hope and pospertiry for others who wished to flee their native homes to come here and build a better life for themselves and their families. I don't see how that is a bad thing. I am, however, open to what others have to say. I'm not claiming to be right, but I do honestly believe what I said.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 23:23
Also, I don't think the race of the man who was drinking from your water hose and threatened you has anything to do with his actions. I also don't think the fact his ancestors came here from another country generations ago motivated him to threaten you. I'm not saying you're a racist for bringing up his color. What I am saying is that his ancestry likely had absolutely nothing to do with his life choices or his behavior. I would agree there is a cultural problem that exists in the United States in places like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, etc. However, I believe the culture of violence that plagues many of our major cities is something that originated right here, not in another country. I believe our own culture has taught people that violence is cool or is the way to solve your problems. I believe that is the result of a number of internal problems, none of which I would attribute to an external culture. If we're going to address the culture of violence in our major cities, I think we need to look inward, not outward, for the source of the problems.
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 23:23
Also, I don't think the race of the man who was drinking from your water hose and threatened you has anything to do with his actions. I also don't think the fact his ancestors came here from another country generations ago motivated him to threaten you. I'm not saying you're a racist for bringing up his color. What I am saying is that his ancestry likely had absolutely nothing to do with his life choices or his behavior. I would agree there is a cultural problem that exists in the United States in places like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, etc. However, I believe the culture of violence that plagues many of our major cities is something that originated right here, not in another country. I believe our own culture has taught people that violence is cool or is the way to solve your problems. I believe that is the result of a number of internal problems, none of which I would attribute to an external culture. If we're going to address the culture of violence in our major cities, I think we need to look inward, not outward, for the source of the problems.
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User #12374854 - 6 Jul 19 00:09
Oh, I absolutely agree we (Americans) have internal problems that need to be fixed. People need to stop voting against their best interests. Unchecked illegal immigration (at least in CA) is a huge drain on the system. It hurts American families. Immigration itself is not the problem. My husband’s grandfather came here from Portugal, joined the Army (worked on rebuilding airstrips the Germans bombed), then was a productive member of society, you know, normal American stuff, didn’t speak his native tongue, didn’t ask everyone else to change their ways, same, I’m assuming, as your grandpa, and thousands of other immigrants. Being a nation of immigrants and their descendants is fine, but that’s not what’s going on here in CA, not anymore anyway. Anyway, I didn’t mean to be so long winded about it, but I wanted to make sure you knew I didn’t hate immigrants. I’m very happy my husband’s grandparents were able to come here otherwise I wouldn’t have him! And, of course, I am reasonable enough to admit there’s bad in all races. Hell, my oldest brother is a complete waste of space. Unfortunately, I don’t have the luxury to be completely color blind. It’s just not safe. It’s not something I really dwell on, but repeated experiences leave an impression and when I called the sheriff to let them know (in case he went to my neighbor’s house next), they asked for his race. Like I said, I’m not a huge racist. I’m 29 now and have 4 kids, I don’t really have the time to worry what all other races are doing. The sexual preference part, honestly, had me scratching my head a lot more. I was confused what that even has to do with Independence Day. The weird sex stuff coming out of this cesspool state should really trouble you as a parent. They’re teaching their gender identity crap in Kindergarten here now. I don’t think Kindergarteners need to be learning about sex at all, let alone transsexual relations. I imagine the envelope has not been pushed quite so far in Indiana. I dread my kids having to deal with the kids that the CA public school system is pumping out. I mean, I feel like I’m trying to give you a heads up. Your kids may have to deal with somebody who went through the CA public indoctrination system someday. If you have time, you should check out this guy Rick’s YouTube channel—Think Like A Cop. He used to be a cop here. He gives a retired cop’s perspective of incidents. He lives in TX now. He says stuff that’s not PC, but quite often I agree with him. He’s seen a lot more of this state than me, and for more years. It’s like opposite land here. Actually many of the counties are not very left, but the San Francisco Bay Area and L.A. decide the vote in this state. The problem, and how this could eventually affect you and your family is the arrogance and anti-America sentiments of the people with power in CA is spreading. So, I guess that’s why I got irritated. I thought, “hmmm, shouldn’t it be the 29 year old White girl from CA celebrating all these differences, not the 50 year old White guy?” Oh, wait, did I just assume your gender? Sorry! Just look at the social media companies. They literally HATE people like you. If they could have their way, you’d be silenced, disarmed and taxed 70% to pay the government to take more of your rights. Anyway, sorry for the lengthy posts. I’ll shut up soon, I could even keep going, but I’m starting to sound like a whiny Californian myself, just whining about the opposite things. It just takes a long time to describe even just some of this state’s problems, and my gun guys are like my mini-escape so when I read your post I was like, “how am I supposed to celebrate freedom when I live in a freedom-hating state?” And, “here, Tim, you take all these people who hate you and this country.” Well, we still did have fun, and I hope your family did, too, and I really hope that your state doesn’t look like CA someday. Actually, I wasn’t even going to reply at all except “Happy Independence Day,” but Troy had more balls than me to say something, so I jumped on too. I didn’t mean to make a big deal, again, my apologies for that, just not feeling too strong out here right now, and wanted to let you know what could come to a neighborhood near you someday.
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User #12374854 - 6 Jul 19 00:09
Oh, I absolutely agree we (Americans) have internal problems that need to be fixed. People need to stop voting against their best interests. Unchecked illegal immigration (at least in CA) is a huge drain on the system. It hurts American families. Immigration itself is not the problem. My husband’s grandfather came here from Portugal, joined the Army (worked on rebuilding airstrips the Germans bombed), then was a productive member of society, you know, normal American stuff, didn’t speak his native tongue, didn’t ask everyone else to change their ways, same, I’m assuming, as your grandpa, and thousands of other immigrants. Being a nation of immigrants and their descendants is fine, but that’s not what’s going on here in CA, not anymore anyway. Anyway, I didn’t mean to be so long winded about it, but I wanted to make sure you knew I didn’t hate immigrants. I’m very happy my husband’s grandparents were able to come here otherwise I wouldn’t have him! And, of course, I am reasonable enough to admit there’s bad in all races. Hell, my oldest brother is a complete waste of space. Unfortunately, I don’t have the luxury to be completely color blind. It’s just not safe. It’s not something I really dwell on, but repeated experiences leave an impression and when I called the sheriff to let them know (in case he went to my neighbor’s house next), they asked for his race. Like I said, I’m not a huge racist. I’m 29 now and have 4 kids, I don’t really have the time to worry what all other races are doing. The sexual preference part, honestly, had me scratching my head a lot more. I was confused what that even has to do with Independence Day. The weird sex stuff coming out of this cesspool state should really trouble you as a parent. They’re teaching their gender identity crap in Kindergarten here now. I don’t think Kindergarteners need to be learning about sex at all, let alone transsexual relations. I imagine the envelope has not been pushed quite so far in Indiana. I dread my kids having to deal with the kids that the CA public school system is pumping out. I mean, I feel like I’m trying to give you a heads up. Your kids may have to deal with somebody who went through the CA public indoctrination system someday. If you have time, you should check out this guy Rick’s YouTube channel—Think Like A Cop. He used to be a cop here. He gives a retired cop’s perspective of incidents. He lives in TX now. He says stuff that’s not PC, but quite often I agree with him. He’s seen a lot more of this state than me, and for more years. It’s like opposite land here. Actually many of the counties are not very left, but the San Francisco Bay Area and L.A. decide the vote in this state. The problem, and how this could eventually affect you and your family is the arrogance and anti-America sentiments of the people with power in CA is spreading. So, I guess that’s why I got irritated. I thought, “hmmm, shouldn’t it be the 29 year old White girl from CA celebrating all these differences, not the 50 year old White guy?” Oh, wait, did I just assume your gender? Sorry! Just look at the social media companies. They literally HATE people like you. If they could have their way, you’d be silenced, disarmed and taxed 70% to pay the government to take more of your rights. Anyway, sorry for the lengthy posts. I’ll shut up soon, I could even keep going, but I’m starting to sound like a whiny Californian myself, just whining about the opposite things. It just takes a long time to describe even just some of this state’s problems, and my gun guys are like my mini-escape so when I read your post I was like, “how am I supposed to celebrate freedom when I live in a freedom-hating state?” And, “here, Tim, you take all these people who hate you and this country.” Well, we still did have fun, and I hope your family did, too, and I really hope that your state doesn’t look like CA someday. Actually, I wasn’t even going to reply at all except “Happy Independence Day,” but Troy had more balls than me to say something, so I jumped on too. I didn’t mean to make a big deal, again, my apologies for that, just not feeling too strong out here right now, and wanted to let you know what could come to a neighborhood near you someday.
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User #8891528 - 4 Jul 19 14:35
Happy Treason Day to my fellow ungrateful colonists 😁
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 15:00
Haha! 🇬🇧
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militaryarms - 4 Jul 19 15:00
Haha! 🇬🇧
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User #9397599 - 4 Jul 19 16:14
A happy Fourth to you and yours.
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User #209652 - 4 Jul 19 15:13
Happy Independence Day Tim & Jason, your families, and to the crew at Copper Custom.
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User #5644250 - 4 Jul 19 15:23
Happy Independence day Mac and all the family. Long live the republic...
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User #19094666 - 4 Jul 19 15:52
Happy 4th my brothers, I hope you and your families have a great day in this great nation!
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User #7170863 - 4 Jul 19 14:34
Happy Independence Day! Thanks for all you do.
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User #7708359 - 4 Jul 19 14:36
Happy Independence Day MAC
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User #5613568 - 4 Jul 19 14:35
Awesome words, Tim. Thanks brother!!! Happy birthday America!!!!!!!
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User #10370566 - 4 Jul 19 14:44
Well said Tim. Proud to support you guys. Keep up the good work. Happy 4th.
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User #5851035 - 4 Jul 19 15:26
Happy Independence Day Tim and all at MAC! Enjoy the day!
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User #7707664 - 4 Jul 19 14:39
Happy 4 th every one
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User #5605812 - 4 Jul 19 15:29
Happy 4th!
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User #9088518 - 4 Jul 19 14:41
Same to you guys.
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User #9260126 - 4 Jul 19 14:37
Same to you guys
Correction on my 350 Legend Livestream
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A couple of posters pointed out that the bullet diameter for the 350 Legend wasn't .357 or .358 as the Chuck Hawks article I cited claimed. Once the discussion started in the comments I went to the Winchester website to view the 350 Legend FAQ page (picture above). Sure enough, Winchester themselves are claiming the bullet diameter is .357 and not .355 (9mm).

I thought Chuck Hawks was right, but a poster said I should pull a bullet and measure it for myself, which I did. Here's what I found.

Yup, that looks like a 9mm diameter bullet to me (.354.5). That means all you need is a 9mm silencer that's rated for .300BLK supersonic rounds (55,000 psi operating pressure) and you should be ok.

I did call Griffin Armament to confirm this and they said they recommend using their mini-blast diverter to protect that first baffle from the 55,000 psi gasses on their 9mm silencers and they said to shoot the 350 Legend sparingly, no more than 10 consecutive rounds before letting it cool down.

It really stinks when you can't trust the manufacturer to give you correct information about their own caliber and load. I will mention this discrepancy in the follow-up video.

I apologize guys!

Tim

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User #7728384 - 8 Jun 19 18:49
I'm just wondering about these hunting rounds in the 7.62x39. Hard to beat an sks in the woods. Have y'all done a gel test on any of these?
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User #6903320 - 8 Jun 19 18:48
I sent you a message about the live stream as well.
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User #384681 - 8 Jun 19 21:07
https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/350-Legend-CC-Drawing-Website.pdf
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User #3136817 - 9 Jun 19 01:20
glad someone had the sense to check the actual industry standard. I don’t care what 1 pulled projectile measures, especially if it still falls in saami spec.
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User #2943122 - 9 Jun 19 05:06
Beat me to it. Good job linking the actual SAAMI spec.
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User #6433843 - 8 Jun 19 18:50
Did you get my message on patreon about having MGM make me a barrel that takes 357 projectiles so I have a better selection of hunting ammo
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User #10564294 - 14 Jun 19 01:10
Military arms channel would you like to do a livestream sometime
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User #6430857 - 9 Jun 19 14:46
I was going to recommend the minimalist blast shield for your Rev9. Griffin also makes a 9mm taper mount flash hider and hammer comp that should fill your needs. Was going that route for my CZ Scorpion, but found no need with the piston and fixed spacer. I have not had an issue with the threads backing off.
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User #6034257 - 8 Jun 19 18:45
Flags are being raised on this round for me. Sucks because I wanted to use a modern rifle. Might just pick up a .45-70 I stead.
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User #4935242 - 9 Jun 19 01:57
I’ve been hunting with .a single shot 45-70 for 35years and it’s never let me down. I’ve launched it out to 500meters with consistency in target shooting applications. But most of my game kills are well within 50. The round is for the most part blind to brush deflection due to its high weight. .450 bushmaster closely mimics .45-70 but can be run thru the AR-15 platform if you want to go that route. Good luck and have fun.
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User #5613568 - 8 Jun 19 18:53
I’m speechless. They don’t even know the stats on their own production. Wow.
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User #4364926 - 8 Jun 19 19:02
The idea reminds me of the 351wsl Winchester created for their Model 1907 rifle.
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User #6433843 - 8 Jun 19 19:24
What happens when a Manufacture submits cartridge to sammi like the 350 legend Winchester said it was 357 caliber so sammi tolerance can be up to plus or minus .003 so 355 is acceptable. After that sammi makes a print and a Manufacturer makes their reemer off of that print.
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User #9014541 - 8 Jun 19 18:50
I wonder if my Rugged obsidian 45 is rated 350 legend belt fed. 😄
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User #5654665 - 9 Jun 19 03:39
Wow well how could you have known. I kind of assumed it would be 355 but still Winchester made it you would think those dum dums would have published that correctly!
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User #14698943 - 8 Jun 19 19:20
I think SilenceCo's Hybrid can take that at full auto. With a long enough barrel.
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User #4935242 - 9 Jun 19 02:16
Thanks for the update. I hate when manufacturers make me look ignorant, within my industry, providing me with false information. All you can do is what you’ve done here. 👍
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User #8470262 - 8 Jun 19 19:27
There's always a learning curve - at least for me. I appreciate the education I'm getting.
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User #12040127 - 8 Jun 19 18:59
This is going to be a disaster. It seems to be Another cartridge that no one asked for and doesn't do anything great. If they have to over sell the specs of this round and undersell the competition then that should tell everyone something. Eveyone rush out and buy a gun chambered for this round that way future generations can have the same experience that we have today. Where you have a gun but can't find ammo for it because it was a flop.
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User #7404906 - 8 Jun 19 18:49
Just watched the live "review" and I never have owned a 45-70 but was wondering what advantage it offered over some of the legacy cartridges. But those and this would not be a topic I know much about anyways. But love learning about the modern oddities that are being developed. Good job on the video too.
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User #4935242 - 9 Jun 19 02:07
This new round is ballistically inferior to .45-70 and .450 bushmaster in every way, on paper (I don’t own the .350 so it’s what I have to go by). Recoil is its only advantage i see. .450 Bushmaster closely matches the price with far more punch.
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User #8077040 - 8 Jun 19 18:50
Maybe this is why you guys were having accuracy issues. It wasn't having proper engagement with the rifling
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User #5605812 - 8 Jun 19 18:50
Somebody stuff a light weight 380 into the case and see if the projectile is fast enough to go back in time.
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We are doing a live stream at 6pm CST with Hank Strange. We're going to talk about Trump and his new interest in silencers and talk about the recent sale of AR15.com to a holding company.

If you can join us, please do!

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User #10009233 - 5 Jun 19 21:00
Unless its to give us all a free one.
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User #20272834 - 6 Jun 19 01:50
Mac, had no idea that your are so deep in the fight for our 2A rights. I upped my membership to a Company Commander. I prematurely retired at 45 and have the time and ability to make a difference. Should you need any help with your efforts, I would love to get waste deep in the fight with you!!!
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militaryarms - 7 Jun 19 01:27
Wow, thank you. Yes, we are involved in a lawsuit to sue the Trump administration for how they banned bumpstocks and if they move to do the same with suppressors I will try to join that suit too. We have to fight back every way possible. Thank you for the support.
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User #4550996 - 8 Jun 19 00:21
So far, my available time to watch Youtube has never lined up with Live Streams so here I am watching this one several days late. Tim, meeting you in Indianapolis, watching your videos, watching your Live Steams with Hank and appreciating your support for the Constitution and Veterans, you are a big deal no matter what you feel about your importance. Thank you and God Bless.
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User #8141388 - 5 Jun 19 21:19
Looking forward to it
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User #9470903 - 6 Jun 19 01:17
so sick of politicians that dont have a clue talking about things and trying to ban things they dont understand. Just put the animals down that do the bad things to people instead of making them famous
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User #7432020 - 5 Jun 19 21:06
It is directly related to the shooting in Virginia Beach cause he used a silencer and large capacity magazine. I find myself concerned about peoples safety, but also the 2nd Amendment and the cconstant encrouchment and nibbling away.
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User #4340443 - 6 Jun 19 21:04
After that bump stock thing, I joined GOA to support what they do but I'm still a Lifer at NRA and now not liking that. This is a great venue you're both putting on. Goodonya!
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User #9251056 - 6 Jun 19 00:43
do one and add Pratt
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User #7180299 - 5 Jun 19 21:00
-clutches 30 round magazines closely and looks around frantically-
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User #14698943 - 5 Jun 19 21:10
Invest in a good shovel and a rubbermaid tote. Go to home depot and get 3/8" weather stripping. Use your imagination from here and tell no one.
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User #7201459 - 5 Jun 19 23:00
And the republicans will defend it
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User #14698943 - 5 Jun 19 21:08
I swear to God, Trump, if you ban silencers after I bought it and its accessories (saved for 2 years) and before I get my tax stamp I'm going to be (upset, greatly)! But all I'll do is (complain) about it. "All NFA sales are final, no refunds, no exceptions" is written above the register. Wonder how the NRA will respond? If I somehow get my money back, it'll all go to the FPF/FPC, it's all I can do. () is replacements for cause words. Sorry, Tim.
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User #6903320 - 5 Jun 19 21:56
Dont feel bad I have 7 silencers and sending paperwork in this week for my maxim9
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User #14698943 - 5 Jun 19 22:17
It's annoying, is all. Picked a Hybrid so I would only need one for rimfire. Waited until I knew how the Hush Act (I think that was the name) would go, then went and got it after it became obvious it was going nowhere. All this crap going on, and an agency that exists to regulate what everyone needs more of.
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User #9416611 - 6 Jun 19 06:00
Watching the stream right now, have you ever tried to get on with Steven Crowder?
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militaryarms - 7 Jun 19 01:25
There was a time when he was doing streams with IV8888. I was introduced to his producer for a possible stream a couple years ago be he never followed through. I've not heard from them since.
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User #8777652 - 7 Jun 19 14:05
He’s got a new producer now, may be worth trying to contact them
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User #5644336 - 8 Jun 19 17:14
I never get the notification that you are LIVE STREAMING until a few days later. Thank you for your time and effort in helping to keep us informed. You are a great inspiration to myself and my family. ✌️
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User #5637375 - 5 Jun 19 20:59
Trump's interest in silencers? That doesn't sound good.
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User #8054496 - 6 Jun 19 01:04
Nice stream MAC. Glad I could make it to this one. I’ll keep contacting my reps like usual. Keep up the fight
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militaryarms - 7 Jun 19 01:26
Thanks!!!!
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User #6252794 - 5 Jun 19 22:32
5 cans and two Maxims here. Peaceful non-compliance.
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User #9416611 - 8 Jun 19 11:47
Considering the demonization and the vox-pocalypse that's going on with LWC right now, I think you guys would get along, and could help each other out. We need to stand together for the bill of rights imo.
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User #7707557 - 5 Jun 19 23:30
Maybe this possible cascade will prompt the courts to reevaluate their position.
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User #9470903 - 6 Jun 19 01:13
wtf he sonstupid
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User #13027520 - 5 Jun 19 23:41
GOA gets a new member tonight.
To all of you:
To all of you:more_vert
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We love you guys/gals. When we mention we're hitting the road, we get a care package sent to Copper. If we mention Jason loves Zebra Cakes, we get a metric ton sent to Copper. Haha. You all rock. Thanks to a Patreon who loaded us up before the IV8888 trip I'm addicted to these protein bars!

You all truly are the best and we can't thank you enough for everything you do.

Tim

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User #5604268 - 31 May 19 00:37
I'm not saying your posting that pic and saying they were good is gonna make me try them, but I'm gonna try them!
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User #5643158 - 31 May 19 20:04
They're pretty good.
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User #18010518 - 31 May 19 00:26
Dues vult zebra cakes
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User #9346661 - 31 May 19 01:36
Do those Combat Crunch protein bars take Glock mags?
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User #4126002 - 31 May 19 11:06
As long as they don't taste like one 😎. I might try one.
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User #5603065 - 31 May 19 01:36
I'm a huge fan of muscle pharm products. Those combat bars are the real deal with less sugar. Their combat protein powder is also awesome. I used them and their pre workout exclusively when I was losing weight. I'm down 150lbs thus far and have made myself PT ready for enlistment next year. Glad to hear you like them.
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User #545458 - 31 May 19 00:36
Just happy to be a part of your team Tim and Jason. We love you guys! Sic semper tyrannis.
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User #9935248 - 31 May 19 01:14
Have you tried the "CLIFF" bars? The peanut butter are my favorite. They seem to be pretty much the real deal.
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User #7727910 - 31 May 19 00:35
Those protein bars were a trap to get you hooked!!!
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User #7170863 - 31 May 19 04:41
I really like the Fit Crunch bars.
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User #7586544 - 31 May 19 00:37
Those are one of the best bars out there taste wise and I have tried a lot of them, and most of them are pretty nasty.
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User #10352084 - 31 May 19 00:34
My dr tells me if you put something in your mouth and it tastes good spit it out cause it is not good for you. Lol Am very glad I am not mairred to my dr. 😂😂😂
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User #6683230 - 18 Jun 19 02:41
Off topic question.... does the KNS adjustable piston really work?
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User #6683230 - 18 Jun 19 02:43
I have a Molot VEPR in 7.62x54 with lots of recoil , will the KNS adjustable piston tame this beast ? Recommend any brakes that would help?
Olight appology
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For those of you who made it to our Patreon event in Georgia yesterday, you probably noticed several Olight folks hanging out.

If you follow me on Instagram you'll know that Olight has been pretty much harassing me and other content creators in a number of different ways. They email me from multiple accounts several times a month asking if I'll do sponsored videos featuring their products. When I would politely decline their offer (I believe I've posted at least one of their emails here in the past) they would send me another email from a different person/account pretending as though they had never contacted me before. This has been going on for a long time.

From my friends who have worked with them in the past, they've told me many stories of accepting a light from them for T&E and within a day or so of the light being delivered they would get an email saying that they knew the light was delivered on X day and asked when they could expect to see a video. The emails inquiring about the video release would continue on a weekly basis.

For me the last straw was them posting on my Instagram images, which were totally unrelated to lights and publicly asking me to work with them for a sponsored review -- something all of you know I don't do. Heck, I don't think I've ever done a dedicated flashlight video in the history of the channel.

Having had enough of what I considered to be intentional harassment I publicly shamed them with an Instagram post. Apparently they got the message.

At our recent Patreon event, someone invited Olight to attend the event. This kind lady who works for Olight and a couple others came out to meet with me specifically and to apologize for their behavior. Apparently this lady is the social media manager who oversees the actions of the folks who were cyber stalking me and others. :)

She couldn't apologize enough and promised me she was retraining her staff on how to engage with social media folks going forward. I offered her some advice and she seemed to take it to heart. She was very emotional with her apology, almost to the point of tearing up a bit.

I accepted the apology of course and wanted to share this with you. I think it's important to forgive and move on.

She did offer to take us to China to see the factory. We would not be paid by Olight to do such a factory tour however, as always, we would expect Olight to pick-up the cost of travel. If we get to that point, I would ask you, our Patreons, if such a factory tour would be of interest to you. Factory tour or not, I have no desire to start doing flashlight reviews as it's not something I'm all that passionate about.

I couldn't believe they would go out of their way to travel to our event just to approach me for a personal apology vs. sending an email.

What do you all think?

Tim

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User #3838796 - 18 May 19 20:45
Props to them for apologizing in person.
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User #4364926 - 18 May 19 20:48
I would love to see a factory tour. Plus you would get a cool cultural experience. Do it
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:06
I would not just cover the factory but I would roll in cultural content as well, like what we've done on previous factory tours.
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User #7463851 - 18 May 19 20:48
Give credit where credit is due, they definitely wanted to apologize. I can't say flashlights are the most exciting thing in the world, but I wouldn't mind seeing how they're made I suppose. Plus, who knows what kind of neat stuff you could end up seeing or getting just from being in China?
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:11
That's what I think. It would be interesting to me to see Chinese manufacturing in general and also shoot video on the cultural side.
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User #8634032 - 18 May 19 20:46
As long as they are only paying for the flight, might as well. Hopefully they wouldn't pressure you when you got there.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 21:55
Oh, I think they know me well enough now that I am brutally honest and apparently my public shaming was enough to cause them some serious grief in social media. I trust going forward they won't be so forceful with me or others.
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User #6927264 - 18 May 19 20:44
When they paid the other guys at the event that much money, of course the were going to show up lol
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User #4252969 - 18 May 19 21:07
They may pay for reviews, but they do have good products. I have 9 Olight products and I've only had one small issue. When the magnetic charging tail cap for my Olight S1R stopped working a few years ago they sent me a replacement within a few days. My experience with their customer service was excellent. They have good quality and good customer service in my opinion.
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User #11710793 - 18 May 19 20:45
I love factory tours do it
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User #6930357 - 18 May 19 20:44
I think a tour would be cool. It would be nice to see how these cheaper companies operate and what goes into making their lights (aka what corners are cut).
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 21:48
I'm curious about Chinese manufacturing in general. I mean, we've heard all sorts of stories about how dangerous their factories are for their workers and stuff. I love learning the truth. :)
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User #6930357 - 18 May 19 21:51
I'm down for a tour. Same deal a usual they pay for your flight and stay and allow you to report back without censorship.
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User #5667175 - 19 May 19 13:30
It would be interesting to see what work/ living conditions we in the United States will have to lower ourselves to in order to compete in a global market, that is unless they decide to give you the "potemkin" treatment.
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User #14198807 - 18 May 19 20:47
Seems pretty stand up of them to me. If they no longer continue their behavior I see no reason for it to be a big deal anymore.
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User #4550996 - 18 May 19 20:48
Go and hopefully enjoy the trip. I have personally been happy with my Olight.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:04
You're not alone, a lot of people seem to be very happy with their lights. My problem with them in the past hasn't been with the lights themselves, just their behavior.
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User #5615010 - 18 May 19 20:48
An Olight factory tour is of no interest to me, but you shouldn't pass up an expense-paid trip to China if it's offered and interesting to you. I know how to ignore videos that aren't interesting to me, so posts from your trip won't bother me in the least.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:03
Thanks man. :)
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User #2343297 - 18 May 19 20:48
Me personally, due to the harassing and unprofessional business practices, I would turn down the factory tour. My 0.02.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:13
Thank you for the feedback. I'm the forgiving type. When someone goes as far out of their way as they did to apologize, I'm all about second chances. If I detected non-sincerity I wouldn't even consider it.
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User #15302640 - 18 May 19 20:49
They went way above and beyond to apologize to you in person.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:14
I agree, I was very impressed. I'm just one of many gun channels yet they went way out of their way to apologize vs. ignoring me like Sig, HK, Remington, etc. do. :)
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User #8202522 - 18 May 19 20:47
I carry olight personally every day, and really like them but one of the reasons I carry them is I can afford them and don't have to be concerned about losing it. I was supprised about how aggressive they were with you in terms of marketing, but I would enjoy seeing a factory tour.
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User #5672439 - 18 May 19 20:51
Same carry one every day love it. And for the same reason I can afford to loose it.
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User #5769519 - 18 May 19 20:46
It shows their an honest company. Apology accepted. However I think that trip would be better spend at a manufacturer closer to your channels sweet spot. Going gear and a few others have done Olight factory tours. Just my two cents!.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 21:51
Thank you for the feedback. While I'm not known for light content, I only get offers to travel to factories over seas maybe once every year or two. I've never been to China and I would like to see how they operate. I would also capture content on Chinese manufacturing and culture as part of the video.
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User #6860927 - 18 May 19 20:46
I'd rather you visit a company like Prometheus Lights (formally FourSevens) and view their in-house created products.
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User #5763649 - 18 May 19 20:48
If you want a trip to China I say do it. I probably would not watch the video unless they give you a shit ton of flashlights to giveaway. That would be neat
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 22:12
Don't laugh, but if I asked for a bunch of flashlights for my Patreons I'm fairly confident they would send them.
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User #5763649 - 18 May 19 22:32
Wouldn't hurt this patrons feelin
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User #8823711 - 18 May 19 20:45
If they cover cost of travel why not?! It would be too great of an opportunity to pass up.
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User #5647073 - 18 May 19 20:46
Meh. Wouldn't interest me, but I wouldn't cancel my Patreon contribution in light of you getting a paid flight/trip overseas ;-) Good on them for the apology but are all their rep's in China as well? If so its probably corporate culture to harass you until you give in. Poor folks probably have a government Overlord literally cracking the whip on them all day to "work harder!"
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 21:54
I may be wrong but their government is a mix of communism and capitalism. I don't believe Olight is a government owned entity, but I honestly don't know. That's something I would like to learn and even discuss in video.
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User #17275251 - 18 May 19 20:47
Good on them for making it right.
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User #8831117 - 18 May 19 20:45
Sounds good Tim. You may proceed 😝. Seriously, though, I respect you 🙏. You've proven your unbiased nature.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 21:49
Thank you. We absolutely take our promise to our Patreons seriously. There is no amount of money a company could offer us to make us betray your trust.
Patreon meetup in Atlanta: After Action Report!
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Hey everyone!

Last night we had a great collaborative meetup with not just our Patreons but also those from IV8888, Hickok45, Sootch00, Skinny Medic and Gun Drama Johnny (180 second ideas). Brandy from IV8888 setup our venue which was held at Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna GA.

This place was AMAZING! Not only did they have a great meeting place for us to hangout, take pictures, chat, give away stuff and chat but they have something like 18,000 firearms for sale! I've never seen a gun store like it before!

We had such a great time with everyone and the Adventure Outdoors folks were so happy to have us that we'll do another meet-up next year. Hopefully even more of you can make it! We will also be doing Patreon meetups in other states in the coming year. We really enjoy spending time with you, getting to know you and generally having some fun.

Here are a few pictures from the event to give you an idea of how things went. Oh yeah, and we enjoyed some Chick-Fil-A food!

We love Zebra Cakes and you guys always seem to remember that! :)

We brought along the new Copper Custom chassis for the Ruger 9mm PCC to let you get a first look at the new product and to ask for your feedback. It seems folks really liked it!

It wasn't just our Patreons who came out, as I mentioned above a number of GunTubers came out along with their Patreon supporters!

Most folks wanted to take pictures but we had some folks who wanted autographs. Here Sootch00 is signing a SKS a Patreon brought to the event for all of us to sign.

I took pics with a lot of folks for my own memories too!

All in all, it was a great event and venue. We'll definitely be back AND we will be doing this in cities where travel to in the future. We have had private gatherings with some of our Platoon Sergeants and above, but we want to be all inclusive and hold events like this where all of our supporters can came, hang out, get some fun swag and have conversations.

As I always say, you guys are like family to us and without your support we couldn't continue to do what we do. We are 100% supported by you, our Patreons.

We caught news recently that gun channels are being completely demonetized by YouTube. Right now we are down some 80% from what we once made, which is why we came to Patreon to begin with. Now it seems YouTube is completely demonetizing gun channels including their livestreams/super chats.

The Firearms Blog posted an update to the situation again the other day as the complete demonetization continues. Slowly YouTube is trying to force all gun channels off of their platform. But, we'll talk about that later. We'll probably make a video about it.

We will be getting some of the content up on Patreon and YouTube that we filmed this week while in Georgia. We have a really fun .50BMG video, a HK 7862A1 LRP vs SCAR 20S video coming and some more good stuff.

We'll be coming to other states and cities to meet with all of you. We'll post here on Patreon when we're on the road and where you can come join us for a bite to eat and conversation.

You all ROCK!

Tim & Jason

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User #13057726 - 18 May 19 16:19
Looks like a great event. Looking forward to the vids. This YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter BS is starting to get out of hand. Will be interested in hearing your take on that as well. Willing to support any option that you feel may be better than the current ones.
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User #13057726 - 18 May 19 16:25
Also excited to see the 9mm PCC chassis. That gun was on the sell or trade list. This may change that. Thanks
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:28
Thank you! The chassis will be available shortly to our Patreons as a discounted price. I'll keep everyone informed!
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User #5612774 - 18 May 19 19:20
That's awesome! I'm in SW Florida and being a weekday with an eight hour drive each way a little much, but I'd love to come to a future event!
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User #5612774 - 18 May 19 18:14
I wish I could've been there!
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 18:34
If you're in the Atlanta area we will definitely be back. We're also going to make it a point in the future that when we travel we carve out a day just to meet with our Patreons. I hope you're able to make a get-together in the future!
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User #10414010 - 18 May 19 16:44
For maximum attendance, come to Arlington TX. Right smack in the middle of Dallas & Ft. Worth. We can use Jerry's World stadium for the event! ;-)
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:29
We love Texas and we will definitely have a meetup the next time we're in that wonderful state. :)
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User #20297268 - 18 May 19 16:10
Thanks for taking the time and coming out and meeting your fans! It was a real honor meeting you guys!
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:26
We really do enjoy meeting our viewers. We obviously have a lot in common and with our Patreons we want to have a more personal relationship where we are accessible to you. We definitely appreciate all who subscribe to our channel but for our Patreons who support it we want to give you access to us directly. You deserve it because you feed our families and fund our operations that keeps the channel growing.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 19:25
We hope to hold one in FL sometime this year. We're going to hold them as often as we can when we travel. We're in FL a lot most every year. I hope to see you at an event!
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User #10807621 - 18 May 19 18:07
Very awesome!
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User #7194840 - 18 May 19 19:34
Great to meet you, can't wait for the pc-9 kit.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 20:42
Thank you and it was our pleasure meeting you as well! We'll have more info next week on pricing and I spoke with Dave at Copper and we will definitely make them available to our Patreons first and at a special price.
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User #4039069 - 18 May 19 16:12
Hope you all make it to the Rocky Mountain region. I'm in Cheyenne Wyoming, lots of shooting country around here. Anywhere in Nebraska, Wyoming and Colorado would be super cool.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:26
We will be out your way for some hunting and we will definitely do a meetup!
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User #5661886 - 18 May 19 16:14
Come to Florida in the winter guys.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:27
We spend time in Florida every year and on our next trip we will have a Patreon meetup. My wife Sara is now helping with the administrative stuff, things like scheduling, which will make it easier for us to do events.
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User #7730789 - 18 May 19 17:07
Thank you for coming down and doing the event! My wife and I had a great time and it was fun to meet you guys in person, as well as others of like mind of 2A.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 18:32
Thank you for making it out! We absolutely enjoy meeting our Patreons and we were all excited and anxious to get there and hang out. It really does mean a lot to us and we will always do our best to make ourselves accessible to our Patreons.
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User #6930357 - 18 May 19 16:59
Holy crap that chassis. I need it.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:30
We'll have them for our Patreons shortly and at a discounted price.
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User #6930357 - 18 May 19 17:31
Days. Weeks. Months?
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User #10227022 - 18 May 19 16:22
This could turn into THE Convention OF & FOR Pro 2 AMENDMENT, something the "not real activists" could Never hope to do??m
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User #5737537 - 18 May 19 19:45
Tim how is your finger ?
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 20:43
It's feeling surprisingly good today. I have almost no pain and I'm even typing with the hand and using that index finger without much discomfort at all. I'll probably cut the stitches out late next week and I should be back to 100%! Thank you for asking.
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User #3915277 - 18 May 19 23:00
That pc9 chassis looks cool.
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User #9555923 - 18 May 19 16:53
It was so much fun! Thanks again for having us!
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:30
I'm glad you enjoyed it and we had an absolute blast too! We love hanging out with our Patreons.
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User #19677706 - 18 May 19 16:19
Looks like a great time, and that Ruger chassis looks really nice. Is there more info available on that?
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 17:28
I will have more info here very soon and we will give our Patreons the first crack at the first production run and you will get special pricing.
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User #9346661 - 18 May 19 17:10
Thanks for signing my SKS, and thanks for catching me in the 'My Name is Earl' eyes-closed position! I have a couple of those from this event. I was astounded at the intimacy of the gathering. Frankly, I was figuring we'd be standing in line for hours just to say hello; this was GREAT! Actually got to have conversations with people I almost feel like I know from watching so many hours of their YouTube videos. And without EXCEPTION, every person was just as natural and friendly as they come across on their respective channels. Adventure Outdoors really did a great job, and I used the opportunity to pick up several boxes of ammo. I hope it worked well enough for them that they will sponsor some more events. Thanks to you for coming (and for being good-natured about my attempt to swap caps with you) and to everyone who put themselves out to give something back to their supporters.
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 18:24
I apologize about the eyes in the pic! I only got one shot... I should remember to always take 2 or 3. :) The whole point to having Patreon only get togethers is so we can have personal conversations and hang out as friends because you ARE our friends. Heck, we consider you extended family. Through the support of our Patreons we're able to keep a roof over the heads of our families, finance the expensive operations of running the channel and even put together events like the Adventure Outdoors gathering last night. We want to have a 1 on 1 relationship with our supporters. Patreon emails always get answered first. We always try to make ourselves accessible to you. We owe at least that much to you because without your support MAC would cease to exist, literally. Heck, we have common interests in firearms and liberty and it's fun to talk about those things and more with you guys/gals. I try to tell folks we're nothing special, because we really aren't. We're just a couple of guys with a camera out filming our range sessions. We're blessed in that our Patreons find those videos to be entertaining enough to support us in continuing to bring that content to you. Hopefully you now believe we don't feel like "celebrities" or anything special, we are just like you -- gun enthusiasts and regular people. Jason won't stop talking about that SKS, he LOVES that thing. :) What a beauty.
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User #18817563 - 18 May 19 17:06
Had to leave Atlanta 4 hours before the party to grab my next load. I could smell the BCM factory lube 😞
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 18:31
I'm sorry we missed you! We really got along great with the Adventure Outdoors folks. The owners son came in for a short time to see the festivities and the general manager and I spoke at length after the event about future events. It turns out most of the employees watch MAC and the other channels who were there. I told them next time we'll try to make it an after hours party and invite the AO employees up to hang out with us!
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User #7764973 - 18 May 19 19:19
I see you tip-toeing beside Hickock hahaha... great stuff Tim, looks like it was very productive
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militaryarms - 18 May 19 19:24
I have to! Him and John are like 7 feet tall and I'm only 6"4'. Hehe.
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User #14936047 - 19 May 19 03:00
Are you kidding? You're almost as tall as they are and they are giants!!
You voted and we listened.
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As I promised our Patreon's, when we started the Patreon page we would be 100% transparent on how we funded the channel and we would not accept any industry money. I recently made a post about how we fund to remind folks and to inform our new Patreon supporters of how we operate. You can scroll down and see it.

We are hunters and we will always roll hunting videos into the regular MAC content on the primary channel (we don't have a B channel, yet).

We put it to a vote to see if you would be ok with us creating a new channel completely dedicated to hunting and funding it by accepting sponsors. Hunting is VERY expensive to do when you are forced to travel out of state (hunting in Indiana sucks) and when you do it every month. So we would have needed more than T&E guns and gear, we would have needed to ask companies to really sponsor us with money. Considering a single hunt can cost north of $5k for a cheap one, well, you get the idea.

Over 10% of those that voted said they felt it would compromise the integrity of MAC, our primary channel. MAC is our primary concern and source of income so we will never do anything to betray your trust or to compromise it's viability.

If starting a new channel and using sponsors would cause us to lose 10%+ of our supporters (which would be crippling), then we will not move forward with the hunting channel project.

We're not upset in the slightest! We greatly appreciate the honesty. We're honest with you and we love it when you're honest with us.

For those of you who enjoy our hunting content, don't worry! We'll still do the occasional hunt when we can and roll that into our regular programming on MAC.

If you guys have another idea on how we could fund a hunting channel, post below. If one of the ideas seems plausible, we'll put it to a vote. I don't want to drive everyone crazy with endless voting, but if you all come up with something that seems doable we might vote one more time.

As always, THANK YOU for your support. You support not just me but my wife Sara, our three sons, Jason and his wife and children plus you keep the channel itself running which is expensive to do.

Tim

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User #7960469 - 5 May 19 00:19
Instead of letting the minority rule, why not ask the ones that voted in the majority to put their money where their mouth is before bowing to the the minority holding the funding leash?
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User #4010795 - 5 May 19 00:41
This ^ I would pitch money to send MAC on A hunt
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User #8079679 - 5 May 19 01:02
Just a guess but I'm willing to bet the people that voted yes already donate more than the ones that don't. I could be wrong but I think the bigger supporters trust Tim. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:17
I could do like InrangeTv and Forgotten Weapons and have two Patreon accounts, but I'm conflicted about that.
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User #8079679 - 5 May 19 01:19
That sounds like exponentially more work. You're probably busy enough as it is with us needy bastards here😂. Gotta have family and personal time too.
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User #5654665 - 5 May 19 10:04
I voted no and the reason certainly isn’t that I donate less. No offense taken I’m only providing clarification for my vote. Basically MAC is the real life guntuber version of Captain America! That reputation was earned with hard work and it gives him a unique platform to protect our rights in court cases and represent us in the best was possible. The more of a boyscout he can be in his business helps the 2nd Amendment all the more so that is why I voted that way. I love hunting and love his hunting vids but our rights are far more important than my entertainment. So I hope everyone understands my reasons. Heck I’ll up my donation again as soon as I get a few bills paid off and I would certainly participate in a raffle via 3rd party website to go hunting. I just can’t see him risk compromising the clean perception he has for my hobbies.
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User #8079679 - 5 May 19 01:02
🤦🏻‍♂️
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User #5702316 - 5 May 19 00:39
I will admit I voted no initially. However, if as little as ten percent of your subscribers voting no is taken that seriously, I want to change my vote. For whatever that is worth. Lately I think maybe the idea of a "shill" has become a too serious thing. I am also referencing myself in this. The NRA deserves our suspicions but many other things do not. While I appreciate the people who will shed light on sponsorships, families still need to be fed. Bottom line, if anyone in our community can earn a living AND do what they love, we all benefit. So I change my vote. Good luck and God bless.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:21
Thank you Josh. We'll keep giving it consideration and perhaps a way to do it without causing concerns of cross contamination, so to speak, will present itself in the future.
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User #5645931 - 5 May 19 00:16
Sorry to hear the news. As previously stated, I think you've more than earned our trust, and, though I'm not a big time hunting person, I think the content would have been good for your brand as a whole. But you have to go with what your audience wants. Maybe you could try to raffle off a 'Hunting Trip with MAC' or something to fund the endeavour.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:15
We may be able to find a way to do it in the future. In the meantime we'll continue to roll the hunting content into our regular programming as we've always done.
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User #6617575 - 5 May 19 00:14
Keep up the great work Tim. Your dedication and efforts don’t go unnoticed. Will always be happy to see videos and posts from MAC.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:14
Thank you! We love the community we've built here. You all make going to work a true pleasure.
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User #5634927 - 5 May 19 00:32
We need something like GoFundMe, but Send-MAC-On-A-Hunt! I'd chip in -- especially if it's in Africa! :)
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User #5605812 - 5 May 19 00:16
This probably dumb, but how about you do some sort of raffle among the patreons. The winner gets to go on the hunt with you. All funded by us and a winner gets to go on a great hunting trip. Just a thought.
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User #5634927 - 5 May 19 00:39
Actually, that's not dumb at all. Everyone who wants a hunt video pitches in and one extra person gets to go (cost is built in). Funded entirely by the people who want it. Good idea!
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User #5634927 - 5 May 19 01:09
Just to put some numbers on this... If 90% of patrons want to see a hunting video, and the raffle ticket was $2, we'd have over $9k for the cause with the current number of patrons.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:15
Patreon doesn't allow raffles. :(
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User #5634927 - 5 May 19 01:20
So, we do the raffles outside of Patreon? (Sorry, I don't have a lot of respect for third parties imposing artificial limitations.)
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User #5605812 - 5 May 19 01:20
Does patreon allow one time tips? If so, then we all tip a certain amount and your random phone app picks a winner.
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User #5654665 - 5 May 19 09:55
You could simply direct the raffle at the copper custom website! More traffic for them on the site and Patreon can kiss our butt I would totally do like a 3-5 dollar raffle to go hunting!
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User #10856175 - 5 May 19 00:24
Just keep doing what you guys do!
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User #8079679 - 5 May 19 01:04
As long as this was going to be transparent, it seems childish that people would say no. But what do I know lol
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:12
I respect all opinions. The whole reason we're here on Patreon is because we promised that if our viewers supported us here we would not take industry money. Given all the concerns with "shilling" in our industry, having a gun channel that's 100% viewer supported and which takes no money from any gun company has value (or so I believe). So, if folks want us to stay that way I respect that. I try to do everything I can to keep my promises. :)
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User #8079679 - 5 May 19 01:18
Commendable!
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User #6425982 - 5 May 19 00:22
Democracy in action... Your Patrons have spoken... <lol></lol>
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User #10397726 - 5 May 19 00:27
Being I was a hunter before I really got into shooting, and I’ve enjoyed hunting videos since the mid-80’s, I was all for ya’ll starting the hunting channel. I do respect you not letting doing so appear to compromise your integrity, but I really don’t think you would have let it be a problem.
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User #6356517 - 5 May 19 00:36
Read paragraph 5 of the post...it says they are NOT starting the hunting channel specifically for those reasons.
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User #6538101 - 5 May 19 00:16
Sad that we won't get the hunting channel, as I know you're integrity wouldn't let you compromise MAC. Hopefully someone smarter than I am will come up with a good idea for you guys.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:16
Either way we'll continue to roll hunting content into MAC funding through Patreon. Plenty of good folks invite us on hunts and so we should have a couple of good hunts to share every year.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:18
There will not be a hunting channel. :)
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User #5604983 - 5 May 19 00:59
Tim, I am glad you had such a low threshold. It speaks to your integrity. I would likely not get much viewing content from a hunting channel, admittedly, but fully support the idea. I understand the costs involved and I genuinely want you guys to expand to new ventures that interest you, but this alleviates a potential conflict of interest. With that said, may I suggest the following as a means of appeasing the 10%, of which I am one: 1. Don't review products from your hunting sponsors on the primary channel. -AND/OR- 2. Explicitly state your relationship with any manufacturer whose product you are reviewing. Disclosing a potential conflict of interest allows a viewer to make an informed decision. It's really best practice for any reviewer. If you do decide to go through with it in the future, just be very careful who sponsors you, because you have to trust them enough to have their business reflect well or poorly on yours.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:25
The original idea was not to use any products on MAC that were used on the hunting channel to minimize concerns of influence. We're also considering another B channel idea, something more entertainment oriented. My concern with that one is that if I do things that are more entertaining it might cause people who respect my serious nature on MAC to lose some respect for me. Think of Demolition Ranch type content where we do fun type content with less focus on serious content. Purely entertainment. I would consider a political channel but that too can cause problems for MAC as those that disagree with my politics would likely stop supporting us if we offended them. It seems like most every B channel idea we have poses some risk to MAC, and at the end of the day MAC is where it all began and is our baby. We will do nothing that might compromise it's ability to grow.
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User #5604983 - 5 May 19 05:28
Tim, for what it's worth, I see no issue with a fun channel. Seeing you clown around with Mr. Booty Shorts, from TFBTV, was good. In fact, it might be a good source for inspiration. Regardless, I greatly respect your integrity and the work you do for the 2A. Thank you.
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User #6118072 - 5 May 19 00:20
Awesome! I can't wait.
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User #5634858 - 5 May 19 01:26
Tim I’d be willing to double down on my monthly donation just so I can send you gentlemen on the occasional hunt! I think it’s great content and a great way for you and Jason to spend quality time with your families. That way you wouldn’t have to take any sponsorships and could still add the content. I think in the last pole, there was also the mention of trying to get sponsered by non firearms related companies. Maybe realtree or a hunting lodge that wants some more exposure. Either way, I still always look forward to your content and the posts you guys make on social media. Thanks for doing what you guys do!
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User #6205219 - 5 May 19 01:27
Tim, I have to say that you are one, of maybe too few, in the industry that can be trusted. You keep your word, and the general way you run the MAC channel and your unwavering support for the 2A speaks volumes about your integrity and who you are as a person. I am fine with whatever you decide to do and wholeheartedly support you. We all have to do our part, but some of us have a larger platform from which to speak, and I couldn't be happier that you have the notoriety that you do and that it gives you the opportunity to speak for all uncompromising 2A supporters. I'm so appreciative for your vour voice!! Thank you for all you do!
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 02:26
Thank you James. We take our promises and our support through Patreon very seriously. We chose this path. Patreon has allowed us to stay free of industry financial influence which means a lot to many folks. While I totally believe you can be sponsored and remain honest and objective, it takes a special person to be able to pull that off. Keep in mind if you take money from a company there is an expectation that the review will be at least neutral and not overly critical -- generally speaking. If you take money from a company and then totally shred a product you experienced issues with, you'll never get another check from that company most likely. If you do that too many times, no companies will support you. So we tried Patreon and all of you stepped up and voluntarily support us. You give us the power to say "this thing is horrible, avoid it." That's exactly where we want to be. The downside is that should Patreon fail, we've really screwed ourselves! :) If we had to go to a pay to play model most of the big names wouldn't fund us because we've been critical of most of them at one point or another... Sig, HK, Ruger, Kel-Tec, Remington, Century Arms, etc.
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User #10370566 - 5 May 19 00:12
I respect you so much Tim just for being the way you are.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:14
Thank you.
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User #9957317 - 5 May 19 00:16
I usually think that the big deal is transparency, that's all. I am a shooter for 29 years, but I don't hunt. My friends and family hunt, so I a
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User #9957317 - 5 May 19 00:18
...so I watch all the hunting videos, and I always enjoy them. If there was another channel parallel to the MAC that required sponsors to fund the gear, I'd be okay with it. But you do what you think is best. Maybe some of these upcoming comments here will make the decision easier. Thanks.
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:16
Thanks man.
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User #7753582 - 5 May 19 00:34
Tim you have earned my trust and the trust of your patrons. Whichever direction you decide to go ill be here supporting you guys. I have seen a pretty good idea floating around here about doing a MAC hunting raffle. People who are interested could buy tickets and then the winner could get to go with you guys. Not sure if that would actually be plausible, but thought it was worth mentioning!
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:20
We would have to find a source of ongoing revenue to fund the continued hunts necessary to create regular content. We'll focus on what we do best now (MAC) and give it some more thought.
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User #8148271 - 5 May 19 01:07
Honestly, if they dont trust you by now...I cant imagine why they are here. I love your channel and regularly share your videos with my 17 yr old son. Please just keep being you, brother! God bless
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militaryarms - 5 May 19 01:14
Thank you man, and God bless! I'm glad to hear you watch our videos as a family. We keep the content clean so that people can watch with their children and not have to worry about us dropping the F bomb. That, and I'm going to start rolling more content of my 10 year old son into the channel as I teach him to be a responsible member of our culture and community.
PSA AKV-9 and the “MAC bracket”.
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Ya know, some companies really do their best to make things right when something goes wrong. Many times my critiques of problems I find are taken personally and offensively (cough - Sig) and not as constructive criticism. Then you have companies like PSA.

PSA released a video that addressed some of the major issues I found with the AKV-9 pistol. The video showcases some significant changes, one of which they “affectionately“ call the “MAC Bracket” (this is discussed at around 2:40 in the video). The device prevents spent, or live rounds, from falling back into the fire control group which was a major problem I pointed out with the original design.

They also addressed the over travel of the safety lever which allowed the user to inadvertantly cause the lever to travel past the lip of the top cover when quickly putting the weapon on safe. This can be a very bad thing. That now seems to be resolved.

Not only did they implement changes to address the problems I called out, some of which are significant like the “MAC Bracket” and the redesigned recoil buffer that fixes the incredibly bad failures to extract and feed, but they did so in a jovial and professional way.

OK PSA, you’re slowly winning me over. Haha.

If the re-launched AKV-9 has problems (I really hope it doesn’t!) I hope PSA views my input as constructive vs. combative again. :) From the video above it certainly seems like they have carefully addressed the issues I had with my gun.

I’ll resume my testing of the redesigned and re-launced AKV-9 once I get it back.

Tim


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User #8902790 - 21 Mar 19 07:48
I was always skeptical of PSA products based off of opinions I see online. However, after listening to them on the AR15 podcast, my opinion of them has completely changed. Anyone who hasn't listened to that episode should do so. They really seem to get it.
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User #10411670 - 21 Mar 19 04:24
LOL, I got a notification that said “MAC bracket” and came here expecting to see you posting your NCAA tournament picks! ???
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militaryarms - 21 Mar 19 04:30
Haha, I’m not a sports fan so you’ll never see such a post from me. :D
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User #4708771 - 21 Mar 19 10:52
Now you’re not just famous to your friends but infamous for having a gun part named for you!
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User #6432264 - 21 Mar 19 15:30 - revision 2
What MAC?? Not a sports fan! Oh, C'mon Lol 😝
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User #6432264 - 21 Mar 19 15:30
What MAC?? Not a sports fan! Oh, C'mon Lol ?
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User #10411670 - 21 Mar 19 04:24 - revision 2
LOL, I got a notification that said “MAC bracket” and came here expecting to see you posting your NCAA tournament picks! 🤣😂😜
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User #11249837 - 21 Mar 19 04:38
I'm actually please PSA is listening to you and they've been listening to Rob ski which is why their latest generation of AK-47 has gotten a lot better than the last version. I really hope that Palmetto State Arms continues to work with people that really know their firearms because they might be poised to really arm every man and woman in this country for an affordable price
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militaryarms - 21 Mar 19 04:52
Rob and I were talking and we agreed that more companies should reach out to us and work with us to test new products. I’ve signed NDA’s and tested guns for companies and given them significant feedback in the past. It’s better to have people like us beat on them than to try and test them internally. One thing about QC is that when you make something you’re too close to it. It’s better to get someone to look it over that wasn’t involved in the development because they’re going to find the flaws. In many cases I’m prevented from disclosing companies I’ve helped to test new products, but I can say it’s not very many.
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militaryarms - 21 Mar 19 04:53
I should also say for the few companies I have assisted in testing new products, I’ve done so for free. I do it because I have a passion for our culture and I want to see companies succeed, not fail. The more quality products we have on the market the better. The more firearms we have in the hands of Americans the more likely we are to retain our rights. At least I tell myself that. :)
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User #11249837 - 21 Mar 19 04:58
I agree with that a thousand percent we need to make it as hard for them to disarm us as possible and many of us need to take as many people and teach them basic firearm safety and remove the stigma as much as possible I've converted at least a dozen people on my side and hope to do a lot more
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User #3027092 - 21 Mar 19 06:04
Absolutely. There is a rule in software development that the developer shouldn't test his own code. They will always test the "happy path" when the point of testing is to break the product and fix the flaws.
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User #9416611 - 21 Mar 19 05:13
Do you and Chase ever consider making some of your own products? I know you two did the Ruger charger brace adapter, but I'd think between y'all and all of us here on patreon we could come up with some interesting stuff.
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User #8019732 - 21 Mar 19 04:29
Good on PSA and good on you, Tim.
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militaryarms - 21 Mar 19 04:36
I find how my rather brutal honesty is taken by different companies to be interesting. How a company handles negative feedback (which really is positive if it helps to improve the product) is something that truly defines who they are and how they view their customers. Not many companies take criticism in such a professional manner and address them head on. Companies like Sig and Century Arms have a deny-deny-deny approach while they quietly roll out changes. Well, Sig does. I don’t think I’ve seen Century actually redesign something. I may have missed something though. Usually companies like them trash talk the person who points out the flaws and deny anything is amiss no matter how many people report the same issue(s).
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User #10352084 - 21 Mar 19 07:36
Glad to see that your voice was heard. I have a few psa guns and have never had any problems. Looking forward to the next video!
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User #3027092 - 21 Mar 19 06:00
Glad to see an update from PSA . I really want to try an AKV at some point but definitely put plans on hold after seeing your initial video. I'd love to pick one of these up to use as a truck gun. I have too much money and love invested in my Scorpion to risk not keeping it in the safe when it's not being used!
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User #4927191 - 21 Mar 19 04:17
I'm still waiting to get a KUSA kp-9 to sbr but if this turns out to be good I'll probably get one and leave it as a pistol.
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User #18232119 - 21 Mar 19 04:42
Good I'm looking forward to seeing your re-review, my I'll snag one
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User #5639062 - 21 Mar 19 04:23
I'm curious because I kinda want one
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User #10411670 - 21 Mar 19 04:31
That’s why I was so confused at first.
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User #13357536 - 21 Mar 19 04:55
I've heard a lot of negative things about PSA, but they seem like they truly care about putting as much of a quality product out there without charging a lot.
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User #3027092 - 21 Mar 19 06:02
I see PSA as skating the line of affordability and quality. I have a PSA AR pistol upper/lower combo and it's been great for me.
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User #5672482 - 21 Mar 19 05:49
I hope it does well! I reallyyyy want one... Just need its bugs squashed.
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User #829206 - 21 Mar 19 04:52
Gotta love continuous quality improvement. I think PSA does a good job at supplying cost effective fun guns, and that's a much needed service. I bought an AK kit from them and was pleased with the results. I'm not an AK guy, and I'm sure some of the AK snobs (that's really a thing) would scoff, but it seems reliable and I built it with all of the Magpul goodness I could to polish some of the commie gun look off it. It says a lot that PSA took your criticism in a constructive manner and used it to help improve their products.
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User #4010795 - 21 Mar 19 04:54
Ive said it before about PSA, people get mad that the Gen1 is usually a "beta test" by them on new guns. But when they have issues they work to correct them as they come. The PSA AK is an exapmple of this, changes implemented over time as the consumers or testers have issues. They do listen and they do try to improve products as they create newer generations. Also i like the tongue in cheek "MAC bracket".
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User #11032051 - 21 Mar 19 07:24
So far I have been very satisfied with my interactions with PSA. I find them to generally have their head far less stuck up their back side then many other much more expensive big brand names.
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User #9416611 - 21 Mar 19 04:18
Something something marines breaking things something something.
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militaryarms - 21 Mar 19 04:37
I guess it makes me a natural for what I do. Haha.
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User #8991034 - 21 Mar 19 07:28
I have 2 AR's already I've put together through them and they run like a Sewing machine.
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User #6808406 - 21 Mar 19 04:18
I hop it runs good brother. I dig it. Looks cool !!
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User #4230715 - 21 Mar 19 09:04
Ok so now I've got the Scorpion AND the AKV-9 on my purchase list ... ! I've always thought PSA was a great value and recommend them to my customers all the time (I'm a gunsmith). I've built several rifles and pistols using PSA components and have no complaints... Watching that video just further cements their reputation, integrity, and commitment to the customer in my opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us Tim... By the way, will you get a royalty from every sale now for the MAC Bracket???? LOL
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User #8991034 - 21 Mar 19 07:26
If it works I'll have 1 do a review MAC lol
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I get asked all the time, "How do I find my Congressman or Senator?". I also get asked, "I don't know what to write can you help me?"

First, let's get you in touch with your representatives. Here's how you find your federal House and Senate representatives;

House: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

Senate: https://www.senate.gov/senators/index.htm

Now let's tackle what to write.

I don't want to give you a form letter because I've been told by Congressmen and Senators I converse with that they have less impact than personalized letters. So you really need to write something yourself and resist the temptation to use a form letter. But, if all you are comfortable with is a GOA form letter, then please send one as it's better than nothing!

Here are some basic steps to writing an email to your representative.

1) Keep it short and to the point. Don't give a family history, or a detailed explanation about why you feel the way you do, just tell them how you feel directly. Write no more than two paragraphs.

2) Know the subject! Right now we face several anti-gun bills in the House and Senate. H.R.8, H.R.1112 (both are House bills as denoted by their H.R. prefix) and S.42 (a Senate bill denoted by the S prefix). Google them. Read up on them. Ask me or others why they are bad if need be. But educate yourself as this is critical.

3) BE POLITE! Don't call them names, be snarky or threaten to boot them out. Well, I've done that... I've told them if they vote for a bill I'll make sure they're unemployed the next election cycle. But don't do that. Keep it professional and polite and for the love of God don't make actual threats of violence. This should go without saying but someone will do it because I know how emotional we can become (I am obviously quite emotional about our rights).

4) Keep in mind an intern or assistant will read your email and take notes. Usually it's something as simple as them keeping a spreadsheet of those who support a bill and those who oppose the bill. They won't read the whole back story and if you're too wordy, they may not read your email at all (see item #1 above) if you say too much.

Here's an example of a message I might send:

Dear Sir/Madam (use their title and last name),
I am a constituent of yours in Indiana and I am writing today to strongly urge you to oppose H.R. 8. This bill will do nothing to reduce crime in the United States and will only serve to punish law abiding Americans who have had their 2nd Amendment rights chipped away at for generations. Please keep your oath to uphold and defend the Constitution by voting NO to H.R.8.
Thank you for your time,
Tim

It really needs to be nothing more verbose than that.

You may also call your Congressman's office and express your opinion as well. I highly recommend setting an alarm on your phone reminding you to call and/or email your representatives each week. You can never contact them too much.

Thank you all for your continued support. We are actively in the fight for our rights each and every day. Without your support we wouldn't have the voice we have. A good number of Congressmen and Senators know me by name now because of my audience size and how vocal all of you are.

Without your financial support we simply couldn't produce videos and fight for our rights as a profession -- and that's exactly what we do. We produce videos that show the responsible use of firearms which gives us credibility in court (I am a plaintiff suing the government over the bumpstock issue thanks to the support of the Gun Owners of America) and it gives us some clout when people see we have nearly 1 million followers and 3 million viewers a month on YouTube alone. Then we have 247k Instagram followers, 350k Facebook followers and 33k Twitter followers. But who's counting?

We take this job deadly serious. All of you know that or you wouldn't be our Patreons. Thank you for giving us the tools we need to fight for all of our rights.

We love you all as being part of our extended family. I truly mean that.

Now get out there and get to work! We need every keyboard in the fight!

Tim

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User #9283588 - 18 Mar 19 01:47
Thank you for posting this reminder tonight. If you live in any of the following states, please contact your representatives this week and urge them to vote “NO” to the red flag bill/extreme risk protection orders! I voted for our congresswoman because I felt that she would support us more than the democratic candidates that basically promised to take away our second amendment freedoms. After hearing her talk about “red flag laws” and how they will “reduce suicides in our state”, I feel that she will vote “Yes” for the red flag laws. Regardless of this, I called last week and sent emails and plan to call this week as well urging her to vote “NO”. I received the following email from GOA: “One of your two Senators sits on the powerful Judiciary Committee -- and will be the deciding vote as to whether this bill gets voted out of committee and gets sent to the floor! Here are the Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee: Idaho -- Mike Crapo Iowa -- Chuck Grassley Iowa -- Joni Ernst Louisiana -- John Kennedy Missouri -- Josh Hawley North Carolina -- Thom Tillis Nebraska -- Ben Sasse South Carolina -- Lindsey Graham Tennessee -- Marsha Blackburn Texas -- John Cornyn Texas -- Ted Cruz Utah -- Mike Lee”
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User #6394380 - 18 Mar 19 01:23
I have written my legislators in the past, and they usually reply. Unfortunately most of mine are Democrats, so they are pretty much useless.
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militaryarms - 18 Mar 19 01:27
Even with Democrat reps it’s still important to be active and get your friends and family active.
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User #8435672 - 20 Mar 19 01:21
I sent one of those form cards I got from the NRA recently and got a long reply from the Senator. I’m sure it’s a pre-written letter he sends out to all pro gun letters he gets and he probably has another letter for the anti-gun letters he gets. Personally, I think all these govt officials have their mind made up and no amount of letters will sway them one way or the other. It’s frustrating, and enough to make me feel like I’m wasting my time writing them. I could post the letter without mentioning the state or the Senators name if anyone is interested.
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User #5656732 - 20 Mar 19 13:16
I got the same from my state senator in Michigan. It didn't seem to matter. What frustrates me most and this goes for both sides is that they are aren't voting for what is best, they are voting for what helps their party.
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User #7981645 - 18 Mar 19 01:25
Tim please include my first comment in the post.
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User #7981645 - 18 Mar 19 01:23
I also advise looking up your senator staff and then looking up their legislative director. A simple google search for senators staff will tell you that. Once you find out who the legislative director is. Call their DC office. And talk to the person. Ask the person who picks up the phone to connect you to their legislative director. They talk with the senator directly. Try to do a follow up call too.
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militaryarms - 18 Mar 19 01:26
Great tip!
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User #5597280 - 18 Mar 19 01:24
Awesome and I’ll keep it bookmarked for future reference but how do you feel about the recent registration bills trying to get passed in pa. While I don’t think they’ll go anywhere it’s terrifying to think certain people are trying to push them on us.
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militaryarms - 18 Mar 19 01:28
It’s easy to know where I stand on anti-gun Laws - I oppose them all. ?
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User #5597280 - 18 Mar 19 01:31
And that’s why I love you. Pa has a fight on it’s hands coming and I’m sure we’ll need your help so I’m glad you’ll stand with us to not make sure we’re not like New York.
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User #5672482 - 18 Mar 19 05:47
Thanks for the tips. Dont stop fighting!
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User #14936047 - 18 Mar 19 01:29
Excellent guideline Tim. Might even motivate me to comm with Feinstein and Harris.
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User #9522088 - 18 Mar 19 11:30
Thx.
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User #6550679 - 18 Mar 19 17:05
It doesn't matter if your representative is a Democrat. They claim to be Americans. Send the email. The Constitution isn't partisan. It's American.
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User #11720628 - 21 Mar 19 20:00
My home state, Missouri, just took a big step by passing a bill that super cedes federal laws restricting 2nd amendment rights. Even makes it a criminal offense for federal agents to break the state law restricting my 2A rights. On the surface it looks great. We’ll see how the practical application goes. Hoping your states follow suit.
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User #9935248 - 18 Mar 19 03:12
Thank you for the heads up. Messages sent to both representatives for Texas.
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User #4612564 - 18 Mar 19 03:05
I took the time to write a letter to my governor, and basically sent the same letter to my reps (for all the good it'll do since they are lefties and will probably vote down party lines regardless). The state ones will be vetoed though since our governor is a solid #2A supporter, and he's said as much all along.
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User #5647741 - 18 Mar 19 04:35
I live in New Northern California....in the region formally know as Oregon and I wrote all of my representatives.
Going to IWA in Nuremberg Germany
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Hey all,

On Wednesday me and David (from Copper Custom) are flying out to Nuremberg Germany to attend IWA which is the European version of SHOT Show here in the US.

We’re going there for business, of course, and I look forward to being able to tell you what we’re up to in the future. What I can say is that Copper is trying to break into new markets. Retail sales is tough right now for gun stores and it likely will remain that way for the foreseeable future. That means diversify.

See these beauties?


These are a mixture of Swiss K31’s and 1911K rifles. We should be getting regular shipments of these and other goodies. If you recall not long ago we made some very rare Sig PE90’s available to our Patreons. Well, we’re going to be holding some of these back just for you guys too. Stay tuned for that announcement in the very near future.

We will be running like crazy while in Germany but assuming we can find a place close to our hotel, and assuming we don’t have business dinners every night, I would like to have some of our Patreons in or around Nuremberg possibly come meet me and Dave for drinks and conversation. If you’re in the area, please post below so we can get an idea of how many people might be able to come hangout.

I will be posting pictures and information about IWA exclusively here on Patreon as blog posts (blog posts are a Squad Leader and above perk).

I’ve never been to IWA before, and I’ve never been to Germany for any length of time before (except for layovers), so I may blog a little bit about that.

Anyway, I look forward to our excursion and sharing my experience with you guys.

Tim

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User #10227022 - 5 Mar 19 04:12
Good 4U, perhaps Cooper Custom, could locate some Demilled Parts Kits, and have them for sale??
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militaryarms - 5 Mar 19 04:15
We are working on a number of different things. :)
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User #2995294 - 5 Mar 19 04:28
I've never been to Germany, but it's on my list. Please post some general sightseeing stuff.
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User #5704244 - 5 Mar 19 04:08
Maybe I will see you there!
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militaryarms - 5 Mar 19 04:19
You’re going? Outstanding, shoot me a pm and I’ll swap cell numbers with you.
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militaryarms - 5 Mar 19 04:19 - revision 2
You’re going? Outstanding, shoot me a pm and I’ll swap cell numbers with you.
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User #11860934 - 5 Mar 19 04:10
Copper Custom breaking into the milsurp market? Aw hell yeah!
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User #7575826 - 5 Mar 19 04:39
Put my name in the hat for a k31 with diopter sights. Missed out on one last year for 750. Also, you gotta stop by the Pedersoli booth. They usually have a good display I’ve seen in videos.
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User #7575826 - 5 Mar 19 04:39 - revision 2
Put my name in the hat for a k31 with diopter sights. Missed out on one last year for 750. Also, you gotta stop by the Pedersoli booth. They usually have a good display I’ve seen in videos.
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User #12820206 - 5 Mar 19 06:00
The k31 was the very first gun I ever bought. Still have it. Any chance of bringing home a few STGW 57's?
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militaryarms - 5 Mar 19 15:40
Those are banned by name from import. I know a company here is making limited runs of parts kit guns, but they're going to be silly expensive.
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User #3947639 - 5 Mar 19 04:16 - revision 2
I lived in Germany for 8 years. Mannheim and Baumholder. My sister was born in Heidelberg. It was a paradise the last time I was there. Since Merkel tried to destroy it I don't know how it is now. Check out the castles ? if you have time. They're magical.
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User #3947639 - 5 Mar 19 04:16
I lived in Germany for 8 years. Mannheim and Baumholder. My sister was born in Heidelberg. It was a paradise the last time I was there. Since Merkel tried to destroy it I don't know how it is now. Check out the castles ? if you have time. They're magical.
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User #5643779 - 5 Mar 19 05:26
Heidelberg was a blast. Lived in Mannheim for 4 years. Beautiful country in the south
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User #3947639 - 5 Mar 19 10:46
Kool ?
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User #3947639 - 5 Mar 19 10:46 - revision 2
Kool ?
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User #6036376 - 5 Mar 19 04:52
H&K G11 plz.
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User #7271757 - 5 Mar 19 04:15
Oh man i need me one of the sig pe90.... im ready whenever you are copper custom. Ill sign my checking account to you.
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User #5647539 - 5 Mar 19 04:29
Does this mean that some GP11 might be in the future as well?
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User #5601811 - 5 Mar 19 05:50
I’m hoping so too. I can’t get my hands on any ammo to feed my K31 carbine
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User #5601811 - 5 Mar 19 05:50 - revision 2
I’m hoping so too. I can’t get my hands on any ammo to feed my K31 carbine
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User #7358138 - 5 Mar 19 12:22
Yes, yes, and YES!!!! PPLLEEAASSEE get some GP11!
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User #11596813 - 5 Mar 19 04:44
Seeing that table of guns gave me a case of the warm fuzzies in that special place.
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User #4039069 - 5 Mar 19 04:10
I envy you guys! Enjoy Germany! I was stationed there 6 years. Loved it!
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User #9253240 - 5 Mar 19 04:10
I've been kicking myself for not buying a K31 a few years ago when they were under $400. I'd love to see if you could bring them in for a reasonable price! Thanks for all you're doing for the 2A and Gun community! Safe travels and God bless!
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User #2718737 - 5 Mar 19 04:10
If you can make way for some K31s come back with you, that would be outstanding!
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User #10023317 - 5 Mar 19 05:25
Got into milsurps after (Usmc 0311) Afghan, got some decent deals, now I've resorted to Sporters (more interesting than I thought for the rock bottom prices), and turn of the century top breaks, Iver Johnson for example, but $35 for a Iver, or $100 for a Swiss Golden State arms k11 .308 conversion Sporter is better than nothing, fun gun. Broke doesn't mean no options, just find a different avenue.
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User #3915277 - 5 Mar 19 04:44
Steal as many HK433s as you can, I'll buy one!
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User #6471352 - 5 Mar 19 04:09
Good luck & Safe Travels
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User #8988430 - 5 Mar 19 04:41
You mean to tell me that Sweaty Ben didn't sell me one of the last shipments of K1911s to ever come into the US?
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User #5601811 - 5 Mar 19 05:49
I was thinking the same thing. I thought I got the last one in existence! :-)
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User #14936047 - 5 Mar 19 04:35
So much history there. So much to see, beer to drink, food to eat, frauleins to....oh wait, you're married.
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User #9016596 - 5 Mar 19 04:14
Thanks Tim for all your hard work fighting the fights for our rights. I look forward to seeing what I know will be amazing products up for sale in the shop. My B&T GHM9 w/ the tailhook I bought from the shop on the first run a little over a year ago has become my favorite purchase from anyone in I believe my whole firearms collecting history. Cheers and safe travels.
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militaryarms - 5 Mar 19 04:18
I love my GHM9. The cool thing about MAC (the channel, not me) is that I show the good, bad and the ugly and I’m not paid to say something is great. So, if I say I love something I really do. I’m not in love with a paycheck, I’m in love with the thing I’m talking about. haha The GHM9 is one of my favorites too!
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militaryarms - 5 Mar 19 04:18 - revision 2
I love my GHM9. The cool thing about MAC (the channel, not me) is that I show the good, bad and the ugly and I’m not paid to say something is great. So, if I say I love something I really do. I’m not in love with a paycheck, I’m in love with the thing I’m talking about. haha The GHM9 is one of my favorites too!
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It comes as no surprise that the House Democrats, who won a majority in the last midterm elections, quickly moved to pass two anti-gun laws. They will continue to use their majority to attempt gross infringements on our rights. It's what they do. The Democratic party continues to swing further and further left each passing year and more socialists join their ranks on the hill with every election.

HR-8 and HR-1112 passed in the House this week with votes going pretty much right down party lines. There were some Republican defectors who voted in support of the bills and there were some Democrat defectors that voted against the bills. However, it was pretty much a vote right down partisan party lines.

Both bills now head to the Senate where they will face a bit more opposition than they did in the House. The Republicans should hold the line in the Senate thereby keeping either bill from getting the 60 votes they need to pass.

Don't assume the Republicans will vote either bill down in the Senate. We can't afford assumptions. We must immediately call and email our Senators and urge them to vote against both bills!

HR-8:
This bill forces all gun sales to be conducted by a FFL/dealer where a NICS check can be performed before the sale can go through. It's also a ban on 18-20 year olds from legally owning a handgun.

Many of you may not know this, but I may give my 18 year old son or daughter a handgun. They can't legally buy it thanks to the GCA of 1968, but they can own it if given to them by say their father. This new law requires all sales to be done through a FFL/Dealer which means you will no longer be able to gift a handgun to someone who is under the age of 21. Let's say your a single 20 year old mother who has an angry ex-spouse or boyfriend. Welp, tough luck if you want to legally own a handgun for personal defense! Even your mother or father can give you a handgun to defend yourself under this tyrannical new law.

Are you leaving town and you want your buddy or a relative to watch your firearms while you're gone? Under this new law you would be required to do a FFL/Dealer transfer and complete the 4473 form and NICS background check to do so.

Worse, the Attorney General may set an arbitrary fee for this service and it can change as often as we change Presidents and AG's.

For more info on all the nuances this law has, please read this website that breaks it all down.

HR-1112
This law allows the background process to take up to 10 days vs. the 3 days we currently have. If you get delayed on a firearm purchase under current law, the BATF/NICS has 3 days to respond to the delay. If they don't respond, the transaction may go forward and you can pick your new firearm up.

Under HR1112 you will now have to wait 10 days before picking up your new firearm. The BATF/NICS routinely drags their feet on background checks. I am a FFL and we sell hundreds of guns a month and it's very common for people to get delayed for no reason. 99.9% of those delayed are able to come pick their guns up in 3 days, or sometimes earlier of the NICS's gets back in touch with us with a "proceed". Now that's 10 days if the Senate votes this bill into law.

The gun pictured above is a 1892 Colt New Army Civilian that I purchased tonight from a friend and police officer for $100. The gun is from Gary Indiana where it has been since it was originally purchased. It's been carried by at least 4 generations of police officers on the Gary PD. The elderly lady to get rid of it because she had no use for it. My buddy asked if she would take $100 for it and she said yes. He then asked me if I wanted it for $100 and I said absolutely!

I bought this gun in a driveway this evening with cash. No paperwork. No 4473 form. No waiting period. No background check and all 100% perfectly legal... for now.

Here's the reality of these new laws working their way through Congress, they will do absolutely nothing to deter or otherwise stop violent crime. Waiting periods, background checks, etc. have been studied time and time again and the result is always the same, they have no demonstrable positive (or negative) effect on crime.

These laws serve one purpose: to harass Americans and to deter them from exercising their Constitutionally protected rights. Gun grabbers want to make buying a gun so painful and laborious that you won't want to do it.

It's like the taxes some states are imposing on the purchase of ammunition. They think forcing you to pay $.05 per round will deter crime. How in the Hell do they come to that conclusion? Thinking a tax on ammo will deter crime is like saying taxing gasoline will prevent car accidents. It's literally that illogical yet these law makers and their supporters really buy into this non-sense.

Placing taxes and fees on firearms and ammunition does one thing; it makes it more difficult for the poor and underprivileged to exercise their rights. It's racist, it's bigoted, and it places an unconstitutional burden on a single class of citizen. Almost all gun laws, like the NFA, are nothing more than ways to punish the poor and deny them access to their rights while making sure the rich and connected can do as they please.

Our Second Amendment says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Dictionary result for infringe

/inˈfrinj/verb

  1. actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.)."making an unauthorized copy would infringe copyright"synonyms: contravene, violate, transgress, break, breach, commit a breach of, disobey, defy, flout, fly in the face of, ride roughshod over, kick against;
    • act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on."his legal rights were being infringed"synonyms: undermine, erode, diminish, weaken, impair, damage, compromise; limit, curb, check, place a limit on, encroach on, interfere with, disturb, disrupt"such widespread surveillance could infringe personal liberties"

As you can see from the dictionary, ANY law that restricts your right to purchase or own a firearm is an infringement by definition. This includes laws that require background checks, fees or taxes, waiting periods, restrictions on types of firearms like SBR's or machine guns, etc. Every single anti-gun law on the books is unconstitutional and thus illegal.

This is why I'm what some call a "purist" with regards to my views on our 2A rights. Some in our community even consider me to be a radical because I believe NICS is illegal and machine guns should be available at Wal-Mart without a $200 tax, without paperwork of any kind, without a registry, and even without sales tax (you can't legally tax a right according to the SCOTUS).

I guess I'm a radical then, but I'm right. :)

Thanks for the support everyone and I look forward to reading your thoughts in the comments. While I don't have the time to respond to every comment, know that I read every comment here on Patreon.

Tim

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User #11032051 - 5 Mar 19 03:23
My local Walmart has a gun section. When a purchaser has their background check come back with a "hold" they take the gun and wrap it with a piece of 8.5"x11" piece of paper around the for-grip with the wording "Sold Pending Hold" and the date of the hold in big black marker and then put it back in their display case right back in it's spot. Used to be that you would only see one gun like that in their display case every once in awhile. For the last 8+ years it's been a constant sight and the last 2 years a third or more of the guns in their case have been like that. Yet almost always when the 3 days are up the gun is gone from the case which I take to mean the sale went through. Looks to me like the number of frivilous holds has been going steadily up. And every time I go to Walmart I always check out their gun section so although a sample size of only one store my "research" has been pretty thorough. If all the other places that sell guns did the same thing when they got a "hold" I would bet a similar trend would be visible.
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User #6163401 - 2 Mar 19 02:14
A) very cool gun with a very cool history B) This is getting ridiculous and feels like we’re fighting an uphill battle. It goes even beyond 2A, since when do kids want a large authoritarian government? What world am I living in?
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User #6163401 - 2 Mar 19 02:14 - revision 2
A) very cool gun with a very cool history B) This is getting ridiculous and feels like we’re fighting an uphill battle. It goes even beyond 2A, since when do kids want a large authoritarian government? What world am I living in?
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User #13419751 - 2 Mar 19 02:12
Yeah I'm definitely a "radical" because I believe that the Constitution should be taken word for word. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED !!!! I WILL NOT COMPLY WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL "LAWS" !!!
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User #5828101 - 2 Mar 19 01:37
i just upgraded from a $1 to $5. you are doing more work for us than i could ever do. if 5 bucks a month can get you a couple coffees (or gatorade!!) then im totally chipping in. i cant be on the front lines but ill support you from the rear!
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 02:09
Thank you brother. We do fight every day for our rights. I am fighting the bump stock ban by being a plaintiff in the GOA lawsuit suing the government over it and I routinely speak with Congressmen about various gun laws and policies. I've tried to use the voice you've given me to do everything I can to fight for our rights. So, again, thank you!
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User #5828101 - 2 Mar 19 02:16
im in charge of a couple discord channels. one is r/firearms and the other is my person one Global Guns. my goal is to have a chatroom that has resources to look teach people what its like to be a firearm owner in the USA and other countries. this is one way i can do little more than just sitting around! https://discord.gg/fb4m7pg
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User #5828101 - 2 Mar 19 02:17
thats the link for my Global guns. were a small group of good guys.
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User #5758861 - 2 Mar 19 02:08
It’s designed to make all firearms traceable to the owner. I don’t think they really care about the delay it’s not really about that, but should a confiscation law be passed later say in 2 years, all they would have to do is look at the FFLs 4473 and come round them up. The Progressive Democrats are stupid? No.
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User #10411670 - 2 Mar 19 13:40
Yep; the form 4473 is ABSOLUTELY a back-door gun registration! People will say “that’s illegal” when you try to explain it to them and just don’t want to see the obvious truth that 4473s are kept by the ATF and used as a registration in every way but name.
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User #10411670 - 2 Mar 19 13:40 - revision 2
Yep; the form 4473 is ABSOLUTELY a back-door gun registration! People will say “that’s illegal” when you try to explain it to them and just don’t want to see the obvious truth that 4473s are kept by the ATF and used as a registration in every way but name.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 02:07
I did too. For most of my life I was never delayed. Then a few years ago I started getting delayed once every 3rd or 4th purchase. Then it started happening 50% of the time. Then it started happening on every purchase. I finally broke down and got a UPIN and it stopped. Then a few years later I got a FFL and now I don't have to deal with the BS at all. But that doesn't mean I agree with the BS.
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User #5758861 - 2 Mar 19 02:08 - revision 2
It’s designed to make all firearms traceable to the owner. I don’t think they really care about the delay it’s not really about that, but should a confiscation law be passed later say in 2 years, all they would have to do is look at the FFLs 4473 and come round them up. The Progressive Democrats are stupid? No.
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User #3947639 - 2 Mar 19 01:23
Trump said if the universal background bill reaches his desk he'll veto it.
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User #10014191 - 2 Mar 19 01:45
I read he 'may' veto it.
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User #3947639 - 2 Mar 19 01:46
Hopefully it will never reach his desk.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 01:48
Yeah, it was a “may veto” as reported by the news I read.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 01:48 - revision 2
Yeah, it was a “may veto” as reported by the news I read.
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User #8929308 - 2 Mar 19 01:28
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User #10012737 - 2 Mar 19 01:49
In the hearings on this they wouldn't let Steve Scalise testify. They don't care about the truth! It's all calculus to them and the far left wing is loudest now. Everyone with a pulse knows that none of this will deter any crime. It's all about infringement and keeping us under the thumb of the ever growing big brother. Make calls. Turn out. It's our only way to protect our rights.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 02:11
It's never been about the truth. It's never been about "reasonable restrictions". It's always been about banning guns completely, little by little. That's why I cannot stand idly by while supposedly pro-gun rights groups like the NRA agree to "reasonable restrictions" like the machine gun ban of 1986, the recent support of red flag laws and the bump stock ban. We have to dig in and FIGHT every single anti-gun law they propose. It has to stop because if it doesn't we will "compromise" our guns away in 50 years.
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User #6432264 - 2 Mar 19 03:05
Shall NOT be infringed! Pretty self explanatory if you ask me, except to demwits!
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User #13057726 - 2 Mar 19 02:27
First of all nice purchase. Working on restoring one of these currently. Not the greatest of revolvers, but nice piece of history and yours has a good back story. Mine was given to me by a family friend years ago as an early gun smithing project. Made it work back then and now after years of it kind of working I’m going through it again with a lot more attention to detail. Thanks for the blog and the update on the latest attempts to infringe on our rights. Made calls to my Senators today. Unfortunately both Dems and so not much hope of swinging their votes but made the calls anyway. Thanks again have a good weekend!
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User #13057726 - 2 Mar 19 02:27 - revision 2
First of all nice purchase. Working on restoring one of these currently. Not the greatest of revolvers, but nice piece of history and yours has a good back story. Mine was given to me by a family friend years ago as an early gun smithing project. Made it work back then and now after years of it kind of working I’m going through it again with a lot more attention to detail. Thanks for the blog and the update on the latest attempts to infringe on our rights. Made calls to my Senators today. Unfortunately both Dems and so not much hope of swinging their votes but made the calls anyway. Thanks again have a good weekend!
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User #6331396 - 2 Mar 19 02:27
We already have this shit in Nevada, they passed SB 143 recently and there have already been some counties who have declared that they will not comply with it backed by the Sheriffs, and there are plans to take it through the courts as well. Unfortunatley we have had a lot of Commiefornians moving in to NV and they now want to take us down their way of doing things.
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User #9386187 - 2 Mar 19 01:56
That word “infringed” catches a lot of people, even me sometimes. I’ve been so used to certain firearms being more regulated than others. I know some constitutional amendments have been regulated in certain ways, but only the second one states clearly “shall NOT be infringed...”. I don’t know if our country will ever fully get to where the 2nd A. is recognized exactly as it’s written (as it should be) but I’m totally supporting the push in that direction. Thanks for the hard work you put in on behalf of us all, sir.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 02:06
Sadly with groups like the NRA backing "reasonable restrictions" like NICS, the NFA, etc. we who believe that all gun laws are illegal and unconstitutional will be in the minority. When I was a kid machine guns were available in most every gun store I visited. No one ever used machine guns in crime, something like 3 people EVER used a legal machine gun in a crime since 1934 before they banned them in 1986. That didn't stop the NRA and Reagan from agreeing to ban them though... Here we sit 30 years later and I have to argue with presumably pro-gun people in the firearms community that legalizing the ownership of new machine guns won't result in running gun battles in the streets. This is the same argument that anti-gunners used to oppose concealed carry laws, that running gun battles would erupt over every little disagreement and people would be killing each other left and right... and now all 50 states have some concealed carry law of some sort and yet crime continues to go down. Once a gun law is on the books it only takes one generation living under them before they just accept it as the way things are and never fight to repeal it. That's what happened with machine guns, the 30 somethings and younger today have never known life with machine guns being legal and commonly available so they have no interest in rolling back the 86 ban, or the entire NFA for that matter. The anti-gunners know this, and that's why their strategy of banning guns little by little through "reasonable restrictions" will ultimately result in a complete ban in 50 years or so.
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User #9386187 - 2 Mar 19 02:40
Thanks for the awesome reply, Tim. I’m in my late 20’s and, like you said, I’ve grown up thinking this was just the way it is. You’ve been opening my eyes over the last couple years and I again thank you and your family for the sacrifice you all make for our rights and freedoms.
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User #9386187 - 2 Mar 19 02:40 - revision 2
Thanks for the awesome reply, Tim. I’m in my late 20’s and, like you said, I’ve grown up thinking this was just the way it is. You’ve been opening my eyes over the last couple years and I again thank you and your family for the sacrifice you all make for our rights and freedoms.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 03:50
Thank you, brother. As an old fart it my duty to try and share my knowledge of the way things used to be before I pass on. I’m blessed with 3 sons and I’m teaching them all I know about firearms and our Constitutional rights. I hope that they step into my shoes and when I’m gone they continue the fight. You’re a young man and reading your post above gives me goosebumps. It seems like yesterday that I was 18 years old and running around in the woods of eastern Kansas shooting my AR and AK thinking nothing would ever stop me from enjoying such freedom. Now, as a 50 year old man I’ve seen some things improve (all 50 states pass some form of concealed carry) and many things get worse (ban on machine guns, ban on 18-20 year olds from buying firearms, states like California go full stupid with insane bans on most everything, etc.). I think back to when I knew countless people with FFL’s out of their house to now where FFL’s are few and far between and home dealers are almost completely a thing of the past. It’s a mixed bag, but the trend is that our rights are hanging by a thread. We’re literally one election away from really horrific anti-gun laws getting passed. Another “assault rifle” ban is a very real possibility with a Democratic President and a Democratic controlled House and Senate. The next one will be FAR worse than the 94 ban that sunset. We’re just one election away from 10 round magazines being the norm. I’m inspired and hopefully for our future with folks like you who are looking at this pragmatically and listening to crazy old farts like me who are trying desperately to pass along critical knowledge so that you have the tools you need to continue the fight. The future is yours my friend. Thank you for the open mind and the support here on Patreon. We couldn’t do it without you (our Patreons).
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 03:50 - revision 2
Thank you, brother. As an old fart it my duty to try and share my knowledge of the way things used to be before I pass on. I’m blessed with 3 sons and I’m teaching them all I know about firearms and our Constitutional rights. I hope that they step into my shoes and when I’m gone they continue the fight. You’re a young man and reading your post above gives me goosebumps. It seems like yesterday that I was 18 years old and running around in the woods of eastern Kansas shooting my AR and AK thinking nothing would ever stop me from enjoying such freedom. Now, as a 50 year old man I’ve seen some things improve (all 50 states pass some form of concealed carry) and many things get worse (ban on machine guns, ban on 18-20 year olds from buying firearms, states like California go full stupid with insane bans on most everything, etc.). I think back to when I knew countless people with FFL’s out of their house to now where FFL’s are few and far between and home dealers are almost completely a thing of the past. It’s a mixed bag, but the trend is that our rights are hanging by a thread. We’re literally one election away from really horrific anti-gun laws getting passed. Another “assault rifle” ban is a very real possibility with a Democratic President and a Democratic controlled House and Senate. The next one will be FAR worse than the 94 ban that sunset. We’re just one election away from 10 round magazines being the norm. I’m inspired and hopefully for our future with folks like you who are looking at this pragmatically and listening to crazy old farts like me who are trying desperately to pass along critical knowledge so that you have the tools you need to continue the fight. The future is yours my friend. Thank you for the open mind and the support here on Patreon. We couldn’t do it without you (our Patreons).
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User #9386187 - 2 Mar 19 01:56 - revision 2
That word “infringed” catches a lot of people, even me sometimes. I’ve been so used to certain firearms being more regulated than others. I know some constitutional amendments have been regulated in certain ways, but only the second one states clearly “shall NOT be infringed...”. I don’t know if our country will ever fully get to where the 2nd A. is recognized exactly as it’s written (as it should be) but I’m totally supporting the push in that direction. Thanks for the hard work you put in on behalf of us all, sir.
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User #9935393 - 2 Mar 19 02:27
Hey Tim thanks for this post! I would love to hear a further breakdown of your viewpoint on legalizing machine guns. Honestly I have a difficult time justifying machine guns outside of a shall not be infringed argument and clearly in this day and age saying “shall not be infringed” is not enough for people. I do agree with your purist viewpoint but find it difficult to argue in favor of. Or alternatively any resources you could point me toward would be awesome!
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User #9935393 - 2 Mar 19 02:27 - revision 2
Hey Tim thanks for this post! I would love to hear a further breakdown of your viewpoint on legalizing machine guns. Honestly I have a difficult time justifying machine guns outside of a shall not be infringed argument and clearly in this day and age saying “shall not be infringed” is not enough for people. I do agree with your purist viewpoint but find it difficult to argue in favor of. Or alternatively any resources you could point me toward would be awesome!
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User #5758861 - 2 Mar 19 02:13
Looks like the liberals are databasing their gun registry! Call it universal background checks. Hmmmm
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User #4612564 - 2 Mar 19 01:33
I've done my part, but while NH is a pretty #2A friendly state right now, my representatives are decidedly not. I urged them to vote no, but it likely fell on deaf ears. I am hoping that my governor will veto similar laws that are currently being voted on in my state as well. He has vowed to veto them, so let's hope he makes good on that. I'd rather not move to another state right now...
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User #3614825 - 2 Mar 19 02:44
Good Post. there was less gun violence even with prohibition going on before the ban on machine guns. you could buy a Tommy Gun from the Sears Roebuck catalog.anyways Cool gun and history behind that gun.
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User #5758861 - 2 Mar 19 02:30 - revision 2
Guys, in FL republican senator Rubio’s weak, he supported 10 round magazine limits and was an embarrassment after parkland ( see YouTube video at CNN town hall) and republican governor now senator Scott passed a red flag law with a very similar mindset. I don’t trust them. we are going to need to overload the phone lines and each of us need to make our case!
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User #5758861 - 2 Mar 19 02:30
Guys, in FL republican senator Rubio’s weak, he supported 10 round magazine limits and was an embarrassment after parkland ( see YouTube video at CNN town hall) and republican governor now senator Scott passed a red flag law with a very similar mindset. I don’t trust them. we are going to need to overload the phone lines and each of us need to make our case!
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 03:39
Rubio is a piece of excrement. It’s hard to believe that clown had a chance to win the Republican nomination. So many people supported him and since the election he’s really shown his true colors. He’s a scumbag and needs to switch his party affiliation.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 03:39 - revision 2
Rubio is a piece of excrement. It’s hard to believe that clown had a chance to win the Republican nomination. So many people supported him and since the election he’s really shown his true colors. He’s a scumbag and needs to switch his party affiliation.
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User #10370566 - 2 Mar 19 02:35
You are 100% right Tim about the second amendment, and all gun laws being an infringement. The way I understand 1112 it's worse than 10 days but basically could delay the release indefinitely.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 03:38
I’ve heard that too, but I can’t seem to confirm it. I’m digging around to find more information.
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militaryarms - 2 Mar 19 03:38 - revision 2
I’ve heard that too, but I can’t seem to confirm it. I’m digging around to find more information.
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User #10012737 - 2 Mar 19 01:54
Since we moved from the Peoples' Republik of Ca to AZ we have taken over a dozen visiting anti 2A friends (of my kids) shooting and every single one said it changed their view on the topic. Especially people of color who have never handled a weapon or thought of defending their families with equal or greater force. Knowledge can spread like a weed if given a chance.
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User #7812047 - 2 Mar 19 02:11 - revision 2
I could not agree more. The media has brainwashed generations into believing all of this is ok when it is certainly not. Thanks, as always. Unfortunately, I truly feel that we will never get back to the original intent of the 2A. In fact I think it will only get incrementally worse each year until it is gone. “A thousand cuts” sort of thing. BUT I WILL NEVER GIVE UP FIGHTING FOR IT. and thank you all for the same.
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User #7812047 - 2 Mar 19 02:11
I could not agree more. The media has brainwashed generations into believing all of this is ok when it is certainly not. Thanks, as always. Unfortunately, I truly feel that we will never get back to the original intent of the 2A. In fact I think it will only get incrementally worse each year until it is gone. “A thousand cuts” sort of thing. BUT I WILL NEVER GIVE UP FIGHTING FOR IT. and thank you all for the same.
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I’ve had a number of requests to do magazines with the MAC logo. The guys at Copper Custom did this with the laser, it’s not a decal. It should be very durable.

We could also do some with the Pareon supporter logo if you wanted them.

Who would want some MAC mags? Let us know and we will crank some out for you guys.

Have a great weekend!

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User #6090841 - 23 Feb 19 02:23
Me!! I’d like one with both logos
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User #6090841 - 23 Feb 19 02:23 - revision 3
Me!! I’d like one with both logos
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User #6090841 - 23 Feb 19 02:23 - revision 2
Me!! I’d like one with both logos
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User #16652783 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
Ditto! MAC mags to the people! Please and thank you
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User #6034257 - 23 Feb 19 02:23
Yeah, I could scavenge the cash for a couple mags.
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User #11576589 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
I'd for sure take one.
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User #6889013 - 23 Feb 19 02:23
Yup I want one
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User #7379825 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
I would want atleast one of each variant.
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User #13291381 - 23 Feb 19 02:25
Can you do them on magpul ak mags?
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User #8186927 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
This guy, right here.
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User #12240550 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
Yeah I'd pick a couple up.
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User #4928187 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
Those are amazing.
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User #5600793 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
Love pmags
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User #5648426 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
good call.... hell yes i want some!
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User #5603065 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
I would! Maybe even just the cross or a naked insignia.
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User #8869241 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
I would take a handfull... and possibly maybe some glock mags.
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User #8080295 - 23 Feb 19 02:25
I would pick up 1 of each logo.
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User #5672439 - 23 Feb 19 02:25
I’d buy two or 3 of both logos at least. Have wanted these for a while sign me up
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User #5672439 - 23 Feb 19 02:25 - revision 2
I’d buy two or 3 of both logos at least. Have wanted these for a while sign me up
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User #5672439 - 23 Feb 19 02:25 - revision 3
I’d buy two or 3 of both logos at least. Have wanted these for a while sign me up
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User #7103623 - 23 Feb 19 02:24 - revision 2
I’ll take 2 Mac logos
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User #7103623 - 23 Feb 19 02:24 - revision 3
I’ll take 2 Mac logos
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User #7103623 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
I’ll take 2 Mac logos
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User #7320689 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
I’m in
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I’m in
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I’m in
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User #5608877 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
in for one
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User #6219324 - 23 Feb 19 02:24
In for at least one of each design.
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Everyone,

For our Squad Leaders and above we now have a full online store where we've cut out the middleman and we're offering the lowest possible price we can to you, our Patreons.

What do I mean by "cut out the middleman?" I mean the new site allows you to order directly from Copper Custom's distributors and they drop ship the orders directly to your dealer. Copper doesn't handle the transaction so the prices are as low as we can possibly make them.

The downside is that we have made all of the products they carry available, even things we wouldn't normally sell at Copper because we don't think it's a quality product -- things like Century Arms AK's or Sig P365's. If you have a problem with a purchase through this system you must deal with the manufacturer for warranty service or replacement. Copper will not be responsible for exchanging or repairing items purchased.

The upside is that you'll get stuff at extremely good prices. This service is included with your Squad Leader or above support.

Here shortly we hope to work with BigDaddyUnlimited.com to offer a heavily discounted membership to their service for our Platoon Sergeants and above. They have access to even more distributors and are directly with over 25 manufacturers. They also have great customer service to go along with their membership. Instead of me taking a cut (profit) from their membership program, I'm not accepting any money from them and asking they take what would be my cut and apply it to reducing your membership fee. As I've said all along -- we are 100% viewer supported and I would rather you get a lower price on your membership than me getting paid to sign you up.

Ok, so here's how our Squad Leaders and above can use our new MAC Buyers Club. It's a little convoluted but if you follow my instructions it shouldn't be too difficult. If you run into a problem you may call Copper Custom to ask for help.

Go to the CopperCustom.com website and login. If you do not have a login, use the link to create a new account. YOU MUST USE THE SAME EMAIL ADDRESS AND CONTACT INFORMATION WHEN YOU CREATE YOUR COPPER ACCOUNT. THIS IS HOW WE IDENTIFY OUR PATREONS. Here's what the login looks like:

After you login to the Copper Custom website you will see an orange banner across the top of the screen that only logged in Patreons will be able to view. This is where you will click the link to the MAC Buyers Club portal. Here's what you will see and where you must click:

This link will take you to the page you see below. From here you need to follow the instructions. Once you've read through those instructions you will see a USER NAME and PASSWORD that will change frequently. Each time you must take note of this user name and password to gain access to the buyers club that day.

After you click the link "CLICK HERE TO ENTER MAC BUYERS CLUB MARKETPLACE" it will take you to the new website where you will need to make an account. This account can use any email or user name you desire. For the sake of simplicity you may want to use the same info you used to create your Patreon/Copper accounts. The easiest way to create the account is to shop through the store and add the products you wish to purchase to your cart. Click on the "CART" button after you've completed your shopping and at the very top you will see the option to either login or create a new account. It will look like this:

That's it. You now have access to the buyers club.

We sync the databases every week. If you don't have access, it's likely because you're a new Squad Leader or above and we've not yet synced the database.

Thanks everyone and enjoy the new system! When we have the BDU system setup we'll let you know.

Tim

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User #2335713 - 19 Feb 19 01:18
Thanks Tim. I hope this gets you more Patreon support. For $10 a month it's a hell of a deal.
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User #8175973 - 19 Feb 19 01:16
The prices seem the same or higher than most other places. Not sure why. Example Mossberg Shockwave on the MAC Buyer's club site is $342.89 and most places have them under $300. I'm not complaining, I'm just not sure if I'm doing something wrong or whatever.
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User #7101862 - 19 Feb 19 01:26
Not all dealer pricing is the same. Copper doesn't get the same discounts as larger gunshops.
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User #4824781 - 19 Feb 19 01:34
My small local gun shop has an online store as well. They are selling Canik TP9SFs for $370, $10 more than the buyers club. And that's shipped to the gun shop for free with with no dealer pricing. Something is off about the buyers club pricing.
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User #7638790 - 19 Feb 19 02:09 - revision 2
Some things are going to be more than others from distributer to distributer. We only have 2 at this time. There are going to be growing pains with this and we are going to try and work them out. I’m going to look into pricing tomorrow. Hang in there.
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User #7638790 - 19 Feb 19 02:09 - revision 3
Some things are going to be more than others from distributer to distributer. We only have 2 at this time. There are going to be growing pains with this and we are going to try and work them out. I’m going to look into pricing tomorrow. Hang in there.
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User #7638790 - 19 Feb 19 02:09
Some things are going to be more than others from distributer to distributer. We only have 2 at this time. There are going to be growing pains with this and we are going to try and work them out. I’m going to look into pricing tomorrow. Hang in there.
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User #7435064 - 19 Feb 19 02:20
Current distributor wholesale for the shockwave is $315. Large manufacturers like Mossberg often times have stocking dealer or show specials in which large volume dealers can get increased discounts to drop their pricing to lower levels. We have never tried entered into that business model as a shop but we will push to that model for the buyers club if we have the Patreon demand. We will continue to try and reduce those margins and negotiate for better pricing wherever we can.
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User #5708281 - 19 Feb 19 01:21
Thanks Tim!
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User #11353147 - 19 Feb 19 01:26
Yea I’m trying on my iPhone and I’m not getting the banner either. I don’t have a desktop or laptop to try it on either maybe try on my iPad when I get home.
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User #11353147 - 19 Feb 19 01:26 - revision 3
Yea I’m trying on my iPhone and I’m not getting the banner either. I don’t have a desktop or laptop to try it on either maybe try on my iPad when I get home.
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User #11353147 - 19 Feb 19 01:26 - revision 2
Yea I’m trying on my iPhone and I’m not getting the banner either. I don’t have a desktop or laptop to try it on either maybe try on my iPad when I get home.
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User #10659225 - 19 Feb 19 01:08
Awesome Tim, thanks so much!!!
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User #9940852 - 19 Feb 19 01:18
Same as Joshua, no banner. I will check back.
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User #5655437 - 19 Feb 19 01:17
I'm not seeing the banner
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User #8377904 - 19 Feb 19 01:13
Will try on laptop later, but as of right now I can't do that off mobile. The Pateron part doesn't show up.
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User #15302640 - 19 Feb 19 01:16
Imma do that on a Mac here in a bit. But I can’t click on the Patreon thing on my phone
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User #15302640 - 19 Feb 19 01:16 - revision 2
Imma do that on a Mac here in a bit. But I can’t click on the Patreon thing on my phone
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User #15302640 - 19 Feb 19 01:16 - revision 3
Imma do that on a Mac here in a bit. But I can’t click on the Patreon thing on my phone
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User #5601392 - 19 Feb 19 01:20
Doesnt pop up for me on the site.
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User #4927310 - 19 Feb 19 01:11
Oh hell yeah, there goes my tax refund.... Hah. Thanks Tim and CC!
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User #7101862 - 19 Feb 19 01:20
Glad this is being made available but as I feared it seems like most items can be bought cheaper elsewhere. One rifle I checked out is over 50% ($500) cheaper on other websites. I guess Copper doesn't get much love from distributors.
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User #7638790 - 19 Feb 19 02:07
After reviewing the website I believe some items are not showing the correct price. I will look into this tomorrow morning. Please let me know what item you were looking at. So I can show the IT guys. Thank you
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User #6880645 - 19 Feb 19 02:12 - revision 2
Uh oh...guess that means I should’ve waited to buy something. Oops!
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User #6880645 - 19 Feb 19 02:12 - revision 3
Uh oh...guess that means I should’ve waited to buy something. Oops!
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User #6880645 - 19 Feb 19 02:12
Uh oh...guess that means I should’ve waited to buy something. Oops!
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User #7435064 - 19 Feb 19 02:23
Which rifle are you looking at? We are working with some blunt "blanketing" pricing tools on our end but it helps to know individual items that can help us narrow down where those tools arent working or where we need to start negotiating pricing with distributors.
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User #6664480 - 19 Feb 19 01:06
The gun from the screenshot M&P Sport II generally go for $500 shipped. Any reason why they are $141 more than other places?
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User #7101862 - 19 Feb 19 01:17
Because even though it's "dealer pricing", copper is a small dealer and doesn't get the same pricing of other bigger shops with much higher volume.
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militaryarms - 19 Feb 19 01:17
There maybe anomalies as the system is new. If you find them, post here and Copper will respond.
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User #7435064 - 19 Feb 19 02:11
They generate these prices directly from the distributor wholesale prices and apply general category markups. We have a blanket 6% markup currently on all firearms. Now in saying that manufacturers offer dealer show specials and stocking dealer programs to dealers for large volume ordering in which often times they reduce their wholesale cost down to a point in which they can retail firearms for just above less than standard distributor wholesale. This is not typically the type of products that we typically carry so it may take some time for us to catch up to these programs if the buyers club has the demand. Also we are checking some of the numbers to see if the website is automatically applying the markup correctly as it seems to be off on some products. It may take us a couple days to get everything nailed down but we will keep evolving the site to patreon requests and needs.
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User #7435064 - 19 Feb 19 02:38
We have confirmed that the website pricing structure is not working correctly for some products as the website is supposed to eliminate the automatic MAP adjustments because it is a private site but that seems to not be the case right now. It is causing the website to restrict the price and not allow it to drop it below a certain amount. We will work on getting this fixed immediately.
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User #6664480 - 19 Feb 19 06:34
"decided to build a REAL deal site where you will be able to access our distributors directly and buy all the guns and accessories you want at dealer cost. Yup, that's right - a fully stocked online store with everything imaginable and you buy it at the same price your local dealer does."
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User #6664480 - 19 Feb 19 06:36
When this was first announced, the above was posted. I guess instead of "dealer cost" it's now dealer cost plus 6%
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User #14936047 - 19 Feb 19 01:12
I haven't logged on or anything but that was a good tutorial. Thanks for the club and detailed instructions.
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 01:26
Wasn’t hard to set up. Thanks!
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 01:29 - revision 2
For those saying the prices aren’t that great, have you ever been to your local shop? Big online stores like PSA or Bud’s will always beat your local place, it’s just volume pricing. You choose who you support.
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 01:29 - revision 3
For those saying the prices aren’t that great, have you ever been to your local shop? Big online stores like PSA or Bud’s will always beat your local place, it’s just volume pricing. You choose who you support.
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 01:29
For those saying the prices aren’t that great, have you ever been to your local shop? Big online stores like PSA or Bud’s will always beat your local place, it’s just volume pricing. You choose who you support.
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User #7101862 - 19 Feb 19 01:35
Well, in this case we are buying straight from the distributor, so purchases are not really supporting copper.
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 03:47 - revision 2
You’re right.
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 03:47 - revision 3
You’re right.
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 03:47
You’re right.
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User #6664480 - 19 Feb 19 06:41
Except above they said they're going to mark up prices 6%. Whereas when this was first announced it was said to be "dealer cost"
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User #6433843 - 19 Feb 19 01:28
Thanks Tim!
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 01:26 - revision 3
Wasn’t hard to set up. Thanks!
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User #4932552 - 19 Feb 19 01:26 - revision 2
Wasn’t hard to set up. Thanks!
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User #12240550 - 19 Feb 19 01:08
You guys are awesome.
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User #5601238 - 19 Feb 19 01:19
No banner anymore used to have one saying I'm patron now it's gone
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User #7575826 - 19 Feb 19 01:10
Nice gonna go sign up now.
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User #6541939 - 19 Feb 19 01:13
Incredible. You are so awesome, Tim. Thanks very much!
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I posted this on the community section of my YouTube channel this morning before heading out to film. I'm just getting back and wanted to share this with you.

This is an example where a California citizen who tried to stay within the law wound up registering his firearm(s) only to have 4 police show up to confiscate the firearm based on the registration information.

Use this as an example when an anti-gunner tells you they only want "reasonable restrictions" and tell you that you're paranoid for thinking registration will lead to confiscation.

Registration always leads to confiscation. Always.

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User #5647741 - 14 Feb 19 22:36
That deep sea fishing trip was crazy...everything sank at buoy 10 trench.
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User #14477337 - 14 Feb 19 22:20
Any chance we can get a tutorial on completing an 80% lower?
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User #6524684 - 14 Feb 19 23:03
Can't be hosted through YouTube, though
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User #6092628 - 14 Feb 19 23:33
That is what Full 30 is for. :-)
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User #14477337 - 15 Feb 19 00:22
Ahhhh crap, you're right. NB4 the lolbertarian jumps in with "muh private company", as if YouTube doesn't have working relationships with globalist governments across the world.
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User #5601811 - 15 Feb 19 00:47
80percentarms has tutorials on their website. Really easy process, just make sure you have the right tools.
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User #5638176 - 14 Feb 19 22:49
What the actual f***! That's some bullshit right there. Resist!
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User #8129090 - 14 Feb 19 22:25
California is at the redline. California needs to be forming militias.
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User #5676232 - 14 Feb 19 22:28
This is what's it going to come to everywhere, if we don't get some people supporting GOA vs the NRA and taking some action. Could you imagine the impact the GOA would have if they had the NRAs money and membership. And yes, I'm lifetime GOA. They are going to make legal gun owners feel like "less than" citizens, that are afraid to talk about owning guns and shooting, bc they fear someone that doesn't support the 2nd amendment, will red flag report them.....it's sad. Shall not be infringed?
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User #2709279 - 14 Feb 19 22:27
The police will do as they are told. So be careful who’s boot you lick. #standingarmy
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User #6425982 - 14 Feb 19 22:54
Massive non-compliance...
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User #7511821 - 14 Feb 19 22:31
That’s why I support GOA and FPC until...... well you know.
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User #4010795 - 14 Feb 19 23:09
Welp everyday we slip closer to 1776.2 electric bugaloo.
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User #7949771 - 14 Feb 19 22:42
That's messed up. 80% equals no paperwork.
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User #16002770 - 14 Feb 19 22:48
Every day I see more California refugees moving to my state (Arizona). They were taxed out of there homes or got tired of not being able to defend themselves against illegals and gang members breaking into their homes or stealing their cars. Yet they find refuge here and what do these morons do!!?? Vote for the same Marxist idiots! This is why Kirsten Sinema is now a Senator for Arizona. You can't fix stupid!
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User #8141388 - 15 Feb 19 02:52
Couldnt agree more! Same with Florida. If you complain about your state, move to another state and bring your failed policies, gtfo and stay there.
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User #6471352 - 14 Feb 19 23:05
Illegal Immigrants get sanctuary, while Lawful Citizen Gun Owners get harrassed and forced to relinquish their property. This is Tyranny.
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User #3027092 - 14 Feb 19 23:01
Mistake number 1: living in California. Mistake number 2: registering his guns. The only smart path is to never do either.
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User #5601811 - 15 Feb 19 00:40
Look around, CA politicians are in control at the national level. This isn’t a California issue anymore.
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User #3027092 - 15 Feb 19 00:42
True, but if this gentleman didn't live in CA he would still have his guns. Had he not registered his guns he would still have his guns.
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User #5647539 - 14 Feb 19 22:30
Its unfortunate that I lost everything in a freak boating accident....
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User #9239398 - 14 Feb 19 22:19
And they tell us that this is for public safety... They are all tyrants.
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User #10182525 - 14 Feb 19 22:54
I would sure as shit be calling my lawyer. It is getting really scary out here guys.
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User #6903320 - 14 Feb 19 22:20
Seen this on sootch's page what a bunch of bullshit. I cant help but feel like big things are on the horizon.
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User #7937655 - 14 Feb 19 22:38
That's such BS, and it's only going to get worse
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User #2335713 - 14 Feb 19 22:59
I feel for that guy in California, but what do you expect. You stay there which is beyond me. Than you vote these comies into office. Hey I know, let me grab that red hot poker and see if I get burnt. DUH!!! I grew up in Chicago and started a family. Than I woke up and moved to the free state of Tennessee. there are a lot of other states to work, live and thrive in. Pick one and get the hell out of there. You won't be alone.
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User #5601811 - 15 Feb 19 00:44
Look around - CA Democrats are in control at the national level. This isn’t about California anymore. It never really was. CA is just the place the enemy builds their strategy and practices it. This is a national problem.
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User #4830414 - 14 Feb 19 23:04
Never register.
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Every week I am approached by companies who want to "partner" with me. By partnering they mean I promote their products by doing "reviews", I make IG and FB posts, etc. and then I use a code to make a percentage of all sales I generate.

Again, there is nothing wrong with making a living doing this. If you tell your audience about such arrangements it's a 100% honest way to make a living. The only time it's dishonest is if you profit from promoting bad stuff, or if you get paid to do advertisements and aren't telling your audience they're watching a paid advertisement.

Most of your favorite social media folks are good people promoting good products and they're making an honest living as best they can since Google took our ad revenue away a few years ago. They're transparent in what they're doing and they're honest in their opinions.

I am trying something a little different and that's to rely 100% on crowd funding to support our business. I make a promise to my audience that since we're Patreon supported that we decline offers like the one made in the email exchange above. We don't do paid advertisements, paid IG posts, paid FB post, conduct affiliate programs, accept sponsorships AND ask you to support us on Patreon. We are only supported here. That's it. Without Patreon we're out of business.

I am NOT calling my peers and friends out! I have nothing but respect for my peers and I try to support them as best I can. We're trying to do something a bit different here at MAC, that's all. We have made the promise that as long as our viewers find value in our opinions and as long as our viewers support us through Patreon, we will not accept any marketing partnerships, paid video reviews, paid Instagram posts, paid Facebook post, etc.

Again, thank you for making this experiment possible. I point this out every once in a while for our new supporters and to remind our long time supporters nothing has changed.

Thanks again everyone and have a great week!

Tim

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User #5647741 - 22 Jan 19 04:42
Tier1Concealed Agis holster ?
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User #5647741 - 22 Jan 19 04:42 - revision 2
Tier1Concealed Agis holster ?
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User #5647741 - 22 Jan 19 04:42 - revision 3
Tier1Concealed Agis holster ?
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User #8460896 - 22 Jan 19 06:04
That's why we all here support you, Tim. And that's why we'll keep on supporting you.
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User #5614679 - 22 Jan 19 04:43
And we definitely appreciate seeing that you are staying true to your commitment!
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User #10628994 - 22 Jan 19 05:43
for that I thank you - have watched a lot of other UTers that promote and notice problems that appeared that get missed in editing but the item gets a glowing endorsement, even to a point where the presenter has the item on backwards (Sordins) as he chats them up.
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User #2335713 - 22 Jan 19 11:20
You always say "there's nothing wrong by doing this for a living", there is. When the person doing the review as a biased opinion of the product their reviewing, aka Sootch00. That's why I can't in good conscience support him on Patreon.
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User #5649166 - 22 Jan 19 14:21
Love this, Tim!
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User #11111204 - 22 Jan 19 05:45
Tim this is 100% why I support you and Jason! I value honesty above everything else! Thanks for what you do.
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User #6576530 - 22 Jan 19 05:00 - revision 3
This is one of the main reasons I donate. Doesn’t get any better than this in my opinion. Honesty and fighting for out rights... These two things should be foundational in men, but sadly seems to be lacking in today’s world. Thank you!
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User #6316235 - 22 Jan 19 04:35 - revision 3
Glad to know that you’re keeping your promise Tim. :) look forward to your next vid.
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User #6576530 - 22 Jan 19 05:00
This is one of the main reasons I donate. Doesn’t get any better than this in my opinion. Honesty and fighting for out rights... These two things should be foundational in men, but sadly seems to be lacking in today’s world. Thank you!
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User #10659225 - 22 Jan 19 04:39 - revision 3
Appreciate all you guys do Tim! It can’t be easy and that’s why I became a Squad Leader. I’ll do more when I’m able, thanks so much!
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User #10659225 - 22 Jan 19 04:39 - revision 2
Appreciate all you guys do Tim! It can’t be easy and that’s why I became a Squad Leader. I’ll do more when I’m able, thanks so much!
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User #10659225 - 22 Jan 19 04:39
Appreciate all you guys do Tim! It can’t be easy and that’s why I became a Squad Leader. I’ll do more when I’m able, thanks so much!
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User #11400622 - 22 Jan 19 04:59 - revision 3
Whaaaaaat? You mean to tell me you’re not like that fancy guy who relentlessly pushes junk products like keltec and refers to the C39 rifles as the gold standard?
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User #11400622 - 22 Jan 19 04:59 - revision 2
Whaaaaaat? You mean to tell me you’re not like that fancy guy who relentlessly pushes junk products like keltec and refers to the C39 rifles as the gold standard?
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User #11400622 - 22 Jan 19 04:59
Whaaaaaat? You mean to tell me you’re not like that fancy guy who relentlessly pushes junk products like keltec and refers to the C39 rifles as the gold standard?
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User #10411670 - 22 Jan 19 04:33
Besides your point; these guys should really check their spelling and grammar before sending out official company correspondence...
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User #8983972 - 22 Jan 19 12:28
Strength of conviction and character. Thank you.
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User #3561988 - 22 Jan 19 06:08
I find it funny they are "big fans" of the channel but do not know you are 100% viewer funded. I agree with Mr Earleywines lead and I upped my pledge as well!
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militaryarms - 22 Jan 19 06:33 - revision 2
I thought that was curious as well. It’s probably a form letter.
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militaryarms - 22 Jan 19 06:33 - revision 3
I thought that was curious as well. It’s probably a form letter.
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militaryarms - 22 Jan 19 06:33
I thought that was curious as well. It’s probably a form letter.
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militaryarms - 22 Jan 19 06:34
And thank you!
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User #10020437 - 22 Jan 19 09:53
Tim on one hand you should find it flattering that you get these requests for partnerships but like Michael Pronchick I find it funny that they say they are long time viewers and don't know you don't do paid endorsements. I like you value honesty above all and thank you for it and that's why I'm a patreon supporter of yours and will stay one as long as you stay honest and can afford to. God bless you sir.
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User #2807399 - 22 Jan 19 15:04
And this is why I will continue to support you, while I've dropped any support of those doing "for profit" reviews. I have no issues with them doing so, and often still enjoy some of their content, but I'm unwilling to pay them to to produce commercials. Keep up the good work!
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User #6576530 - 22 Jan 19 05:00 - revision 2
This is one of the main reasons I donate. Doesn’t get any better than this in my opinion. Honesty and fighting for out rights... These two things should be foundational in men, but sadly seems to be lacking in today’s world. Thank you!
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User #6679301 - 22 Jan 19 15:04
Tim, we own you! ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,
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User #7781289 - 24 Jan 19 07:01
Don't laugh... It's true. :/
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User #6679301 - 24 Jan 19 13:20
Was just a joke, I know I can count on tim and the MAC team and they really are fighting for our rights and can see the forest for the trees when others can't.I just wish they could really find a way to profit from their platform without looking like they're compromising themselves to the masses on patreon! People are quick to judge Tim's every move!
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User #13419751 - 22 Jan 19 05:32
And this is why I love and support the things you do. Your experiment has given me much knowledge over the years. I know I just recently have become a patreon supporter, but up until now I couldn't afford to do so. Now so long as I can afford to I will continue to be a patreon. Thank you for teaching me all that you have. I admire your dedication and love that you fight for our rights. I do all that I can myself.
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User #6108843 - 22 Jan 19 04:38
Tim, just upped from $5 to $10. I REALLY do appreciate your stance and the quality of work you and Jason provide. I hope my minuscule bump helps the cause. All the best! Scott in IA
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User #6316235 - 22 Jan 19 04:35 - revision 2
Glad to know that you’re keeping your promise Tim. :) look forward to your next vid.
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User #4795905 - 22 Jan 19 04:52
And this is why I continue to be one of your patrons. Honesty and dedication of this level is borderline impossible to find anymore
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User #6316235 - 22 Jan 19 04:35
Glad to know that you’re keeping your promise Tim. :) look forward to your next vid.
A REAL Patreon's Buyers Club!
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Ok, so we tried to do a manual buyers club where we scoured the marketplace for special deals but the product offerings were limited. We had some BLOW OUT deals of course, and we will continue to find those and post them, but I wasn't happy with the selection.

Dave, my business parter at Copper Custom, decided to build a REAL deal site where you will be able to access our distributors directly and buy all the guns and accessories you want at dealer cost. Yup, that's right - a fully stocked online store with everything imaginable and you buy it at the same price your local dealer does. All that's required is that you're a Patreon Squad Leader or above.

This will give you access to hundreds, of not thousands of items.

Keep in mind these will not be products I have tested or approve of. You'll find Century Arms, Sig, Remington, etc. products in there and accessories I've never tested. Copper only carries products we test and put our stamp of approval on. This new site, due to launch shortly, will carry everything you would find in a major gun store or online retailer, but all prices will be dealer cost.

I'll keep you posted. We're just now putting the finishing touches on the site. There's a lot of backend work going on.

Also, all items will be drop-shipped directly from the distributor. That saves money but it also means if you have to return something you need to work with the manufacturer themselves. None of these items will go through Copper. They come straight from the distributor/manufacturer to you, no middle man.

Ok, I'll post more when the time comes.

Thank you for your support! We love you all!

Tim

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User #7812047 - 15 Jan 19 14:33
Thank you! That is a great idea! Thanks for all you do.
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User #5856164 - 15 Jan 19 14:28
Neat! Seems like we're about to have our own BigDaddyUnlimited up in here!
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User #5634858 - 15 Jan 19 14:31
This is like Christmas 2.0! ??
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User #5649166 - 15 Jan 19 14:34
Holy hell!! I guess I better start saving my pennies...
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User #5634858 - 15 Jan 19 14:31 - revision 3
This is like Christmas 2.0! ??
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User #5634858 - 15 Jan 19 14:31 - revision 2
This is like Christmas 2.0! ??
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User #12741344 - 15 Jan 19 14:35
Nice, so I can cancel my subscription to Big Daddy Unlimited now? Thanks Tim! For putting in all the back end work!
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User #6524684 - 15 Jan 19 14:28
That sounds similar to big daddy unlimited, though not at all in a bad way. I'll look forward to it
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User #11825767 - 15 Jan 19 14:32
That was my first thought too! If you have the access to the same items/prices that will allow me to send my monthly BDU membership to MAC!
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User #6927264 - 15 Jan 19 14:32
Is it gonna be called BigMACDaddyUnlimiter? Lol
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User #5676232 - 15 Jan 19 14:35
That's awesome. I hope it helps you with more Patreon supporters!
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User #5644307 - 15 Jan 19 14:28
I like it!
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User #8929308 - 15 Jan 19 14:30
So the site will post what is in-stock at the distributor? It basically gives distributor access?
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User #7760219 - 15 Jan 19 14:28
My wallets gonna hate me lol
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User #9485637 - 15 Jan 19 14:31
Awesome, Thanks Tim!
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User #5637127 - 15 Jan 19 14:37
Love it, thank you!
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User #6704304 - 15 Jan 19 14:28
Sweet!
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User #11596813 - 15 Jan 19 14:35
Sounds Awesome
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User #10573746 - 15 Jan 19 14:34
That's awesome. Thanks MAC
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User #6433843 - 15 Jan 19 14:33
Good deal thanks a lot!
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User #15957315 - 15 Jan 19 16:35
I was checking out some of the post from people and had to do a double take when i seen Richard Hubbard already had a post and i hadn't posted anything yet because my name is Richard Hubbard lol
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User #15957315 - 15 Jan 19 16:37
Luckily last week i changed my profile to just Rich and took my last name off lol
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User #6433843 - 15 Jan 19 19:23
Wow small world what state are you in
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User #7404906 - 15 Jan 19 14:29
Wow.. that's very kind of you.. thank you for the opportunity but more so thanks for all you do for the community
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User #9941402 - 15 Jan 19 14:29
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User #9941402 - 15 Jan 19 14:29 - revision 2
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User #5645047 - 15 Jan 19 14:33
Woohoo!
Another one bites the dust...
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We've been asked to find alternative sources of subscriptions services, so we created a SubscribeStar account based on some posts here a few weeks ago.

I got this email this morning:



"Hi MilitaryArms,
As you already likely know, the payment processors that we have been using for over a year have just canceled their services with us. We stand firm in our resolve that we will not use PayPal in any shape or form in the foreseeable future. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.
At this time, your supporters cannot donate or subscribe to your account. Given this unfortunate and very temporary situation, we added the ability for new users to subscribe for free. If this interests you, please utilize a $0 tier to take advantage of this option.
These payment processors nebulously claim that we have not complied with their policies. PayPal has not given us any further explanation whatsoever. Stripe has frozen our funds and given us 14 days to reshape our business model beyond the point of any business sense, quoting the following:
"Aggregation involves accepting payments on behalf of other individuals/entities and obscuring the payout of these funds. We can't support this type of setup because it prevents Stripe from screening these individuals/entities for money laundering, terrorist financing, and other prohibited activities..."
They further demanded that we remove sponsored content that they find objectionable.
We are certain that our customers would not support the options that Stripe has left open for us; therefore, we have refused to comply. We are instead working towards integrating other payment processing options. A large percentage of the monies held by Stipe never reached our bank account, but this will not affect your balance as we will use our personal and company funds to fulfill the payouts, if necessary.
In providing this update, we ask that you stay calm and rest assured that all of your monies will be paid to you promptly upon request. We will be enabling payout via bank info from your Payout page and can assist you in entering the required information if you so need.
Truly yours, SubscribeStar.com Team

As you can see, one of the many problems we face are credit card processors who dislike our rights as much as the major social media sites do. If we were 100% dependent on SubscribeStar right now, we would be toast.

I wish we could uproot ourselves every time a social media site we're dependent on says or does something crazy, but the reality is we can't -- not if we want to stay in business. They will all say or do something crazy eventually and we can't stop and rebuild our subscription support every time it happens. That, and look at what YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have done to people like Alex Jones. Are we to abandon all social media or stay and fight?

Anyway, I thought I would share this with you.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Tim

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User #7315296 - 19 Dec 18 16:05
Merry Christmas to you and Your team. Standing by You, greetings from Switzerland.
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User #4364634 - 19 Dec 18 16:11
How long before these payment processors ban enough of their customers that they start to feel the pain? It's not just the firearms industry either. Small time leather shops are having some trouble when they start getting into exotic leathers. Entire businesses have been brought to their knees or closed because they lost their source of income. Patreon take note - I'm supporting MAC, not you, not your payment processor.
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User #4615746 - 19 Dec 18 16:20
They are so rich they don't mind taking the hit if they can virtue signal over their next pumpkin spice latte about how they are virtually punching nazi's online
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User #4364634 - 19 Dec 18 16:26
I have never read a more true statement online!
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User #10009233 - 19 Dec 18 16:00
Time to just start mailing you cash. In a thank you card of course!
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User #6034257 - 19 Dec 18 16:02
One of the top 15 creators on Patreon recently took his page down due to the fact that they took down Sargon of Akkads page with no evidence that he violated his policies. I believe this creator is teaming up with Jordan Peterson and a few other individuals to build a Patreon-like platform that ACTUALLY supports free speech.
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User #5599221 - 19 Dec 18 16:08
As much as I want it to be the simple solution of leave the unconstitutional platforms totally. The moral (and reasonably business smart) thing to do is stay and fight. We cant let them push us out of the worlds largest spheres of influence. There is nothing they would like more then to push us out of all mainstream media completely and regulate us to some low views backroom, making it easier for them to justify to the ignorant that our voices are wrong and don't count. We must stay and fight because if we leave we are effectively silencing our selves to their benefit. So this is about as important as voting...
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User #6432264 - 19 Dec 18 16:08
I'm not cancelling my Patronage until you let us know where to move our funds to help you out MAC. Please let us know when we need to update. Thanks as always for the support. Merry Christmas!
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User #6090841 - 19 Dec 18 15:58
We’ve got to stay and fight or it will never change right?? Doubtful that places like Facebook will ever change anyways but we can give them as much hell as possible.
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User #8005012 - 19 Dec 18 16:00
BLUF, are you able to process payments right now? I'm willing to subscribe on PayPal, or anything that works just to keep supporting.
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User #65622 - 19 Dec 18 16:05
Disgusting how these companies think they can force their politics down our throats. Good on SubscribeStar for sticking to their guns and not caving to these fiends. I'll be making an account there shortly, to support you and others when they get a new payment processor up and running
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User #209652 - 19 Dec 18 16:00
Merry Christmas Tim to you and the whole MAC team.
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User #6524684 - 19 Dec 18 15:57
Son of a..
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User #7404906 - 19 Dec 18 16:06
Can I just mail a damn check to Copper Custom and put Tim at Military Arms . The stamp cost $0.50 and that is less than these platforms take out anyways? Is there a business name it could be made out too?
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User #15360447 - 19 Dec 18 16:10
The real...Never Ending Story
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User #7121453 - 19 Dec 18 16:31
I hope it works.
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User #3006166 - 19 Dec 18 16:07
Wouldn't it be nice if you could just produce quality content, find new and interesting topics to cover and also be able to support your families? This is what everyone else involved in social media can do, unless you are involved in content that the Leftist thought police have deemed "dangerous" or not socially acceptable. It just pisses me off that we have to sit here and take this bullshit. Maybe Jordan Peterson/Dave Rubin's new project for content creator funding will be the answer. In any case we have to find a way to insulate ourselves from those that would control us.
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User #10144677 - 19 Dec 18 16:08
Tim and Jason I stand behind what ever route you guys chose even if means mailing a check to you every month. Why cant the gun companies get together and help put some type of platform together for us since we do support them? The way things are going it is in their best interest, you should not have to fight this alone.
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User #7711243 - 19 Dec 18 16:00
Forget using a service to manage your subscribers. Do it yourself! You may still run into issues with credit card processors that refuse your business, but YOU will be in control of your business and who does your cc processing. I would find it hard to believe that there isn't a smaller cc processor willing to accept your LEGAL business. Happy to help if you'd like...
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User #6051932 - 19 Dec 18 16:10
I totally agree with Bruce.... if you can partner with some of the other producers (Iraq888)and get your own channel and banking set up so WE THE PEOPLE can support you guys directly..... Screw paying the middle companies, and their attempt to erode our 2A.....
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User #11111204 - 19 Dec 18 18:24
I have also advocated for a move similar to this. Hosting your own content and using a small credit union to process payments. Or hell, grab one of these smarty pants millennial kids who can do a bunch of stuff I don’t understand and then it works again lol. But for real I think this is viable discussion at this point. On the flip side though, all this content is HUGE and the space needed to store it could me a difficult task. But get creative. Have videos rotate from hard storage onto the server. I’m actually in the process of working on this myself and considering options.
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User #7711243 - 20 Dec 18 01:56
There is basically nothing that Patreon is doing (that I'm aware of anyway) that can't be done on your own website. Monthly membership payments, check. Video content, check (best to use YouTube until they force you off; then switch to another video hosting solution; videos take HUGE amounts of storage). Comments, check. YouTube has demonitized Military Arms. Now SubscribeStar (via their cc processor) has demonitized Military Arms. Quit making your business subject to the whims of 3rd parties and take control of as much of it as you can. I'd be happy to implement a website capable of doing all of the above. Look me up at cardinalacres.com (I admin Ian McCollum's Forgotten Weapons and Revere's Riders websites).
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User #4822167 - 19 Dec 18 16:05
I don't understand. Will this effect the Patreon payments that I make with my credit card?
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User #11111204 - 19 Dec 18 18:26
I was a little confused too. But I think the excerpt in the post was an email to Tim completely about Subscribe Stars platform and billing system. Nothing to do with Patreon, for now.
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User #13319447 - 19 Dec 18 16:11
Annnd.... I just increased my monthly donation. We 2A supporters don't run we stand and fight when everyone else starts running. I will deliver my donation on horseback if I have to. Merry Christmas everybody and God bless you all.
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User #5634858 - 19 Dec 18 16:02
This is starting to get out of hand... but rest assured, if I need to transfer my funds to you directly I will!
We are on Twitch!
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Ok, I gave in.

First, I'm a life long gamer. Sadly, as I've gotten older my gaming hasn't gotten any better, but I still love it. LOL

My friends kept telling me to stream my games, so tonight I did my first Twitch Battlefield V stream via my PS4. If it takes off I may do a studio setup and include my ugly mug in the stream. For now it's me playing and talking and answering questions folks may have.

I hope those of you who are gamers check out the Twitch channel and join in. We'll be doing irregular streams, usually in the evenings and hopefully with friends here soon. Heck, I'm down with having a clan of Patreons if you all want.

Anyway, check it out, let me know what you think and if you have any ideas or suggestions on how to improve it, let me know!

Thanks again everyone.

Tim


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User #5643779 - 8 Dec 18 05:30
MAC’s dirty little secret that he’s a gamer. Hahahaha! What’s the twitch page?
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User #7979338 - 8 Dec 18 05:40
I was playing BF 5 on PS4 almost all night, I hope you weren't on the other team because I was tearing some shit up. Already level 50.
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User #5648796 - 8 Dec 18 05:28
NHL 19 let’s go
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User #5648796 - 8 Dec 18 05:26
Xbox!
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User #5890085 - 8 Dec 18 05:24
I'm down we can clan up we just need some other troop! We can make this happen guys, I dont think his old eyes will help much, but we will see.
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User #963054 - 8 Dec 18 05:16
If only I had a PS4.....
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User #9555923 - 8 Dec 18 05:18
Oh wow this is awesome. My girlfriend is on twitch a lot so now I'll have a way to get her into MAC as well! Lol
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User #12433753 - 8 Dec 18 05:23
I've been out of gaming for sometime, but with the 4K TV this Black Friday, I decided to get Xbox One(has 4K Blu-ray). If it wasn't for USPS, I'd be playing the remastered Call of Duty(4) this weekend. I guess still wrong FPS on the wrong console. lol
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User #3253213 - 8 Dec 18 05:18
I'm on xbox one . But Count Me In on a MAC clan
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User #9193781 - 8 Dec 18 05:21
I might have to get a ps4 and BF and show ya up, old head??
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militaryarms - 8 Dec 18 05:30
Be on my team and help an old man out!
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User #9193781 - 8 Dec 18 06:01
I need some braggin rights first, then I'll help ya out lol
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User #12240550 - 8 Dec 18 05:39
Sadly, PS4 is the only console I don't have, but I'll still support from the sidelines.
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User #8988430 - 8 Dec 18 05:38
Bite the bullet and get a decent PC. Can always double as something you'd use for editing your vids and whatnot, yknow normal computer stuff.
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User #4612564 - 8 Dec 18 05:19
Awesome man, 'bout time! I am a gamer as well but I am a PC hobbyist so I spend all of my gaming money on that rather than consoles. I'll definitely check you out!
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User #2995294 - 8 Dec 18 18:34
I thought about buying an Xbox 360 once. I went and looked at the games available and though, "I can play all of these on my PC. Why would I buy a console?" <shrugs></shrugs>
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User #4612564 - 8 Dec 18 18:54
Pretty much yeah, aside from console exclusives like the Red Dead and Uncharted games... but yeah, PC is a much better platform especially for enthusiasts.
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User #8319094 - 8 Dec 18 05:51
Actually surprised me that you're a gamer Tim, never really struck me as one.
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User #6880645 - 8 Dec 18 05:23
So instead of some 14 year old making comments about my mother it could be Mac
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User #2336613 - 8 Dec 18 05:42
I missed the stream but I hope to catch the next one!
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User #9966083 - 8 Dec 18 05:42
Just an FYI Tim, from what I hear BF5 has been a flop for streamers. Usually a new title like that will have upwards of 100k watching it at any given time, but the numbers have been consistently under 10k. BF1 gets better viewership
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User #5673132 - 8 Dec 18 05:18
xbox one :( and finances dictate no ps4 in the near future.
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User #7641732 - 8 Dec 18 05:37
Awesome! I’m a life long gamer as well so I’m in. I have ps4 pro and two Xbox 1x...love playing with the kids especially when I win :)
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User #11111204 - 8 Dec 18 05:54
All this sounds like Russian to me.... but I have a PS4 in my truck for the kids. I've never touched it besides turning it on for them. If we can't find Tim during the AZ shoot he's in my truck...
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To those of you increasing your pledges this month, and there have been several, thank you. I don't know if it's a Christmas sprit gesture or to help support us in our upcoming legal battle with the government over rewriting law through bureaucratic fiat, either way THANK YOU.

We're still waiting to see if the ATF/DOJ quickly change the regulation to offer amnesty (as Trumps 2020 campaign manager Tweeted) to existing owners or not. I hope they do that much to keep people from losing their investments while we continue to fight it out in court. Either way, when that goes live, we go to court.

As I've said all along, "it's not about the stocks". It's about one branch of government usurping the power of another, in this case the Executive Branch taking on the role of the Legislative Branch. You can't do that, not Constitutionally and I'm not going to take that type of gross infringement against our liberties sitting down. The whole bumpstock thing is ancillary as I've said all along. I even wanted to have shirts made "It's not about the stocks, stupid" but I was talked out of it. Hehe.

One of my critics on Instagram, just one... hehe, said all I care about is the 2nd Amendment. I think most of you here know I care about freedom. The 2nd Amendment is important just as the others are. The court case we're about to fight it's about the 2nd Amendment technically, it's about government overreach. This should be proof I care about more than just one single Amendment.

Thank you for your continued support. As long as we have your support we will make videos, do posts, be consumer advocates, answer questions and fight for our collective rights.

Tim

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User #5586470 - 4 Dec 18 16:22 - revision 3
He’s using the 1st to protect the 2nd, 4th, and 5th at the very least.
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User #5586470 - 4 Dec 18 16:22 - revision 2
He’s using the 1st to protect the 2nd, 4th, and 5th at the very least.
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User #5586470 - 4 Dec 18 16:22
He’s using the 1st to protect the 2nd, 4th, and 5th at the very least.
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User #5647539 - 4 Dec 18 16:24
I increased mine because I know my money is going to a better cause than other groups such as the NRA.
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User #8175973 - 4 Dec 18 16:25
I raised mine because of everything you do. Not just the law suit, but because you're never afraid to speak the truth about a product or about the NRA or whatever needs to be said. I didn't spend 20+ years in the military to sit idly by and let people just blatantly throw away rights. This has to be the only country in the world where people protest to have rights taken away. So stupid. I've been to places where if the populous was allowed to be armed I wouldn't have had to be there. Being a disabled vet, it's hard for me to do such activities as protesting or the law suit thing, but I sure as hell can give money to help those who are taking up the fight. God Bless and God Speed on your valiant journey brother!
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User #7029433 - 4 Dec 18 16:12
It absolutely is about freedom, not bump stocks. I think most of your supporters get it. And the entire notion that banning things will make us magically safer as a country is total nonsense as well.
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User #5353220 - 4 Dec 18 16:50
1934 gun control act to stop gangland violence (when police did not even have radios in their cars) has been turned into control the good law abiding people and disarm them one regulation at a time (the overton window). Thanks for representing us as our elected officials will not, even though they take an oath to protect our civil rights.
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User #8231689 - 4 Dec 18 16:34
You're the voice we need, Tim. I increased my pledge because I believe in what you're doing. I'm contemplating another increase. I'm not a rich guy, but I'll enable those that are fighting the good fight. Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
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User #5595459 - 4 Dec 18 16:17
The Judicial branch has usurped the most power of any branch. I wish you the best in finding a court that will agree with the pending lawsuits.
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User #3027092 - 4 Dec 18 16:18
I think you could still do a shirt that says "It's not about the stocks" with the same graphic of the "fun increasing device" t-shirt. Keep up the good fight. People here will support you.
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User #9555923 - 4 Dec 18 16:21
Thank you Tim! You fight for the rights of us patreons and all people, so in my opinion: you deserve our thanks even more so :)
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User #8129090 - 4 Dec 18 16:25
I increased my contribution a few weeks ago based solely on your 2A activism. It's the least I can do (You have helped me form a habit to call and email my reps at my State and Federal gov't when the need arises). My next progression is to show up for the committee discussions at my State capital when something 2A comes up. Thank you for what you and your team do Tim. You are making a difference.
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User #7266499 - 4 Dec 18 16:11
I raised mine to 50 just because what you do for our community (gun owners) and I know the money goes to a good cause. Keep up the good work brotha
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User #5655554 - 4 Dec 18 16:19 - revision 3
Honestly, if and when they do come out with the ban, I hope they do not grandfather existing ones in. Why because it might actually start a fire under some people’s asses. Maybe they will finally get up and fight back for their freedom.
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User #5655554 - 4 Dec 18 16:19 - revision 2
Honestly, if and when they do come out with the ban, I hope they do not grandfather existing ones in. Why because it might actually start a fire under some people’s asses. Maybe they will finally get up and fight back for their freedom.
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User #5655554 - 4 Dec 18 16:19
Honestly, if and when they do come out with the ban, I hope they do not grandfather existing ones in. Why because it might actually start a fire under some people’s asses. Maybe they will finally get up and fight back for their freedom.
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User #5654665 - 5 Dec 18 11:33
Exactly
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User #5599221 - 4 Dec 18 16:20
So... if they get grandfathered... they would legally be machine guns... does that mean that the grand fathered one could be permanently attached to a receiver and than the receiver be legally converted to true full auto since at that point it's part of a machine gun already? Asking for a friend... lol
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User #6839815 - 4 Dec 18 16:27
Thank you, stay safe and Merry CHRISTmas
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User #6282296 - 4 Dec 18 16:12
I appreciate how vocal and outspoken you have been in fighting for our rights. You truly are a inspiration to push all of us to be more vocal against government overreach.
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User #5639491 - 4 Dec 18 16:12
Keep up the good work Tim, proud to contribute!
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User #12820555 - 4 Dec 18 16:13
I can't believe he accused you of caring about the 2nd amendment. God forbid we have caretakers interested in preserving the affirmations of our God-given rights! Thank you Tim.
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User #8929308 - 4 Dec 18 16:15
Well, you're exercising the 1st to advocate for the 2nd... So you're at least about 2 amendments if anything
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User #6664480 - 4 Dec 18 16:22
Freedom as a value in and of itself is what is dying in America. Agreed it is all about freedom. Go Tim! Freedom as a value, even independent of practicality is the most important value in existence. Unfortunately, many strong 2nd amendment supporters, even plenty MAC patrons are not so keen on freedom in other areas. Wake up people, you can't live in a bubble wrapped baby-proofed utopia with firearms freedom being the one exception. Too many people want freedom for the activities/things they like themselves, but are all too quick to curtail the freedom of others for things they disapprove of. Ignoring of course that those other people might disapprove of guns.
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User #8759015 - 4 Dec 18 16:15
Sounds like a good time to increase mine. Thank you for the reminder.
Happy late Thanksgiving 2018-11-23T15:09:08+00:00

Hey everyone.

I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I got to spend the last 4 days in bed thanks to a flu bug. I even missed Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. :( However, I'm finally starting to get my strength back.

I apologize for going dark for several days. Hopefully we'll be back in full production mode next week, just in time to miss the warm snap that is going to hit us this weekend. Hehe.

Thank you for your continued support.

Tim

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User #6673676 - 23 Nov 18 15:25 - revision 2
Chug 6oz of warm Brandy or frozen Jägermeister (it's got to burn as it goes down) follow with 2 Excedrin and a quart of water. Kills everything... spirits are kept in our house to get rid of illness. Get to a hot sauna if possible to sweat it out, hey the Romans and Greeks did it for centuries. Hydrate, Hydrate, Hydrate. Believe it or not, Pedialyte works wonders. Those damn Flu Shots are B.S. I won't get one, haven't been sick in 4 years. Get better man!!!
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User #5645931 - 23 Nov 18 15:46
No worries. Rest up and feel better.
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User #14936047 - 23 Nov 18 15:35
Obviously we all wish you a recovery and good health, especially during these holiday times. Thanks for the updates and the many informative videos. I had wondered why you were silent lately but figured you were taking a holiday break.
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User #6673676 - 23 Nov 18 15:25
Chug 6oz of warm Brandy or frozen Jägermeister (it's got to burn as it goes down) follow with 2 Excedrin and a quart of water. Kills everything... spirits are kept in our house to get rid of illness. Get to a hot sauna if possible to sweat it out, hey the Romans and Greeks did it for centuries. Hydrate, Hydrate, Hydrate. Believe it or not, Pedialyte works wonders. Those damn Flu Shots are B.S. I won't get one, haven't been sick in 4 years. Get better man!!!
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User #6375638 - 23 Nov 18 15:19
Get well soon and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family as well.
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User #7401775 - 23 Nov 18 15:30
No need to apologize: for being sick or for taking time off at Thanksgiving. Relax and get better, you have more than earned it.
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User #5665393 - 23 Nov 18 15:12
Happy thanksgiving get well soon
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User #5672482 - 23 Nov 18 15:15
Not again! Get better please
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User #11033091 - 23 Nov 18 15:37
Happy Thanksgiving. Get better brother.
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User #5648016 - 23 Nov 18 15:44
Sorry to hear your sick! Rest up and get well soon. Don't push it too soon or you'll only make it worse. Trust me, I ended up with double pneumonia! Work can wait and we will all still be here. Prayers for healing!
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User #7335219 - 23 Nov 18 15:11
Happy Thanksgiving Tim!
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User #4869931 - 23 Nov 18 15:13
Happy thanksgiving get well soon
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User #13963617 - 23 Nov 18 15:56
I figured the same. That it was just time to relax. Glad you're doing better. I don't think the major rush is the videos. So definitely no bed to apologize. Thanks for all the hard work you and Jason.
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User #6786627 - 23 Nov 18 15:20
Feel better man
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User #6704304 - 23 Nov 18 15:11
Rest up and get well. We aren't going anywhere
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User #8148271 - 23 Nov 18 15:43
Get better! See ya soon.
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User #5586185 - 23 Nov 18 15:23
Happy Thanksgiving and get yourself well good sir
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User #9104827 - 23 Nov 18 15:11
Happy Thanksgiving Tim
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User #8938093 - 23 Nov 18 15:11
Happy Thanksgiving Tim.
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User #11673195 - 23 Nov 18 15:42
Get well my friend. Keep up the good work. Ur the only person I give my 5 bucks to a month for a reason .... #best gun vids on the net ..!!!
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User #6356517 - 23 Nov 18 15:14
Happy Thanksgiving! Feel better!
Patreon Preview: B&T MP9 SMG!
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The TP9 rocks, but the MP9, it's fullauto counterpart and the one we should be able to buy as free men and women, is a BLAST to shoot!

We got one in for a LEO demo so we took it to the range to show you guys what this little polymer and steel Steyr designed, B&T produced SMG is all about.

Thanks again for the support everyone. In these times where YouTube is endlessly harassing all gun channels and political commentary channels they disagree with, it's amazing and comforting to know we can continue to move forward because you guys make it possible.

Tim


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User #5603065 - 24 Oct 18 02:57
Why are fully automatic weapons so expensive? In all honesty I feel like it's less to do with the value of the product and more about making them exclusive/hard to get.
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User #10411670 - 24 Oct 18 03:16
Simple supply and demand economics. There's a very small number of transferable machine guns, and no more can be made. The demand far exceeds the supply.
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User #5661886 - 24 Oct 18 02:31
That thing has a very high rate of fire!
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User #5602580 - 24 Oct 18 08:24
MAC gets to have all the fun ....
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User #6786627 - 24 Oct 18 02:41
Glock mags? 10mm?
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User #7979338 - 24 Oct 18 02:28
This video is really going to piss off those assholes at YouTube. I love it!
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militaryarms - 24 Oct 18 03:32
I hope it does. ?
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User #5880838 - 24 Oct 18 02:13
Awesome!
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User #6327590 - 24 Oct 18 03:12
Hey at 11.51 in the video it looks like huge fire ball coming out of the barrel when its chambering the next round. Almost like the the round went off before it chambered?
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militaryarms - 24 Oct 18 03:31
It’s unburnt powder burning from the round that just fired combusting as the next round is chambering.
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User #11373387 - 24 Oct 18 02:36
I wish Dakota Tactical would get busy on those arm braces. . . .they've been out of stock for months.
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User #11373387 - 24 Oct 18 02:42
Tim, Let me know if you "need" a DSA version to complete the collection. I'm about to sell mine (sub 300 rounds, basically new).
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militaryarms - 24 Oct 18 03:32
I would love to have it depending on price.
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User #11373387 - 24 Oct 18 03:35
Let me know the best way to get into contact with you. I posted it on Armslist just a few seconds before I got this message. I can work with you on price... http://www.armslist.com/posts/9053016/nashville-tennessee-handguns-for-sale--b-t-tp9-like-new-brugger---thomet
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User #5463624 - 24 Oct 18 04:50
Suffering in a commie kalli, not sure we are even allowed to view such cool.
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User #10040584 - 24 Oct 18 13:22
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS STUFF WITH US! We need more full auto now that you're an SOT!
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User #7319460 - 24 Oct 18 02:33
I pick up a speed loader for my magazines from Tar Heel State. Life became much better.
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User #9648992 - 24 Oct 18 11:53
Thanks for reminding me how bad I need Trigger Time
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User #6021817 - 24 Oct 18 02:38
Badass! Would love to shoot one of those! Sidenote, in the slow mo it looked like the T1 was sliding back and forth. The fire rate looks super harsh for mounts and the short bolt travel. Or maybe it just looked that way on camera. Either way, be honest, how many rounds did you and Jason run through in that short time?! ?
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User #8101524 - 24 Oct 18 14:21
The video is not as clear as it used to be. Is it a little out of focus?
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User #7638790 - 24 Oct 18 22:26
This is the first video with a new to us Sony Camera. Still getting the hang of the new camera ?
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User #5586470 - 24 Oct 18 04:41
I just bought a Stribog sub gun from Grand Power. It is a poor man’s B&T
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User #12527688 - 24 Oct 18 02:14
Amaz-balls!
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User #10352084 - 24 Oct 18 02:36
That looks like a great time!
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User #7098703 - 24 Oct 18 02:28
#RepealTheNFA
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User #8658441 - 24 Oct 18 02:31
SWEET!
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I finally learned why almost every day I get another email from YouTube saying another old video was demonetized. My original YouTube rep left for another job and I’ve spent months trying to connect with my new rep. Today we spoke voice. I wanted to know why, one by one, my old and new videos are being systematically demonetized. Here’s the story.

On Sept 3rd of this year, YouTube quietly rolled out even more restrictive policies governing firearms and accessories content on their platform. It used to be we that we could mention where we got a firearm or accessory in video and it wasn’t in violation of their community standards. We could put a graphic or even a URL in the video stream (not a hot link, just unlinked text in video) and we weren’t breaking the rules. We could even show the installation of a silencer, bayonet, optic, etc. in video and it wasn’t in violation of the rules either.

Now, showing any of the above is against YouTube community standards. If I show a silencer being installed, I’ve “demonstrated how to make a firearm more lethal”. If I show the insertion of a “high capacity magazine” in video, I’m showing how to make a firearm “more lethal” and I’m in violation of community standards. If I show my KDG quick detach Aimpoint mount being taken off or snapped on, I’ve shown how to make the firearm more lethal. If I put a bayonet on a Mosin Nagant, I’ve shown how to make the rifle more lethal.

Even worse, if I mention a discount code in video, I’ve “encouraged the sale of prohibited items” and my video is demonetized. If I put a discount code in the video description... you guessed it, I’ve broken the new rules.

Not only has YouTube squashed our reach, they’re now demonetizing our videos because some are trying to monetize elsewhere. They’re trying to force many of us not to be able to make any money on YouTube or through affiliate links or promotions. This really hurts good people who rely on sponsors or who make a living off affiliate links. For us, we have Patreon and we thank ALL of you for that.

We used to get, on a good month, $1,500 to $2k from YouTube. That’s now slowly working its way to $0 as YouTube demonetizes our entire library one by one using the new Sept 3rd rules.

Your support means everything to myself and to Jason. Your support feeds our families, puts cloths on our kids, keeps a roof over our heads and helps us to replace gear as it either becomes obsolete or breaks. Without Patreon there would be no more MAC at this point. You guys already know I’m a minority partner in Copper and I don’t take a paycheck from the store. The same is true of Full30. Patreon, thanks to you, is how we make a living.

This isn’t just about MAC, it’s about all my peers and friends on “GunTube”. This new policy change is so restrictive that it will do what it’s intended to do at some point... and that’s to force us all off YouTube.

We will never stop fighting thanks to you, our Patreons.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Tim

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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:01 - revision 3
And thanks for the great content that you provide. That’s why I support you, and watch your videos here, and not YouDouche.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:01 - revision 2
And thanks for the great content that you provide. That’s why I support you, and watch your videos here, and not YouDouche.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:01
And thanks for the great content that you provide. That’s why I support you, and watch your videos here, and not YouDouche.
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 03:25
Umm, you realize there aren’t any videos on Patreon, right? Any video you watch “on” Patreon is just a link to a YouTube video.
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 03:25 - revision 4
Umm, you realize there aren’t any videos on Patreon, right? Any video you watch “on” Patreon is just a link to a YouTube video.
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 03:25 - revision 2
Umm, you realize there aren’t any videos on Patreon, right? Any video you watch “on” Patreon is just a link to a YouTube video.
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 03:25 - revision 3
Umm, you realize there aren’t any videos on Patreon, right? Any video you watch “on” Patreon is just a link to a YouTube video.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:27
I know, but YouTube doesn’t get the advertisement money if I watch it here. It’s totally ad free on Patreon.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:27 - revision 4
I know, but YouTube doesn’t get the advertisement money if I watch it here. It’s totally ad free on Patreon.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:27 - revision 2
I know, but YouTube doesn’t get the advertisement money if I watch it here. It’s totally ad free on Patreon.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:27 - revision 3
I know, but YouTube doesn’t get the advertisement money if I watch it here. It’s totally ad free on Patreon.
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User #11032051 - 20 Oct 18 04:02
Does Patreon work for embedding Full30 videos? As in as much as possible using Full30 for the videos that are watched through Patreon?
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 21:10
Yes, they do get ad money if there's ads. it doesn't matter where you link to the video from; a YouTube video is still a YouTube video weather it's embedded in another page or not.
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 21:10
turbo1889 No, Patreon can only embed YouTube videos right now.
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 21:46
I get that they would receive money for a video with ads. But I have never seen a video on Patreon that has an ad before a video like it does if I were to go straight to YT. I doubt that an advertiser would be willing to pay YT money on a video if the ads were not being played. The ads aren’t played here, so why would anybody pay YT a fee when their ads aren’t being watched?
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 21:46 - revision 4
I get that they would receive money for a video with ads. But I have never seen a video on Patreon that has an ad before a video like it does if I were to go straight to YT. I doubt that an advertiser would be willing to pay YT money on a video if the ads were not being played. The ads aren’t played here, so why would anybody pay YT a fee when their ads aren’t being watched?
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 21:46 - revision 2
I get that they would receive money for a video with ads. But I have never seen a video on Patreon that has an ad before a video like it does if I were to go straight to YT. I doubt that an advertiser would be willing to pay YT money on a video if the ads were not being played. The ads aren’t played here, so why would anybody pay YT a fee when their ads aren’t being watched?
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 21:46 - revision 3
I get that they would receive money for a video with ads. But I have never seen a video on Patreon that has an ad before a video like it does if I were to go straight to YT. I doubt that an advertiser would be willing to pay YT money on a video if the ads were not being played. The ads aren’t played here, so why would anybody pay YT a fee when their ads aren’t being watched?
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User #10227022 - 20 Oct 18 03:16
Just keep doing what you are Doing.... We Will Prevail... but all this takes Time.....
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:01 - revision 4
And thanks for the great content that you provide. That’s why I support you, and watch your videos here, and not YouDouche.
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User #8269810 - 20 Oct 18 03:03
Best money I spend every month. Proud to be here! Thank you for everything.
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User #209652 - 20 Oct 18 03:00
When will the YouSuck tee be available on forged for freedom?
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User #6218381 - 20 Oct 18 03:02
Tim! You really know how to get me fired up and go on a rant!!!!!
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User #8891972 - 20 Oct 18 02:59
I hate that I have to rely on YouTube to watch the content of MAC.
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User #7803548 - 20 Oct 18 03:02
WTF?
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User #8771282 - 20 Oct 18 03:03
The MAC Channel is my "go-to" for entertainment and info. I haven't found anyone who has so similar mindset and opinions as my own and yet I still learn more all the time, too.
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User #6927264 - 20 Oct 18 03:10
I say you make a video with every single violation in it you can just to piss them off.
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User #4010795 - 20 Oct 18 03:06
Carry on tim, i will keep supporting you and others. Adapt and overcome
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User #7170863 - 20 Oct 18 03:00
YouTube? Never heard of her.
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User #7379521 - 20 Oct 18 03:16
Love yah Tim.
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User #10573746 - 20 Oct 18 03:08
Prohibited items... To semi quote George Carlin. "that is what is known as being stunningly and embarrassing full of shit."
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User #5276197 - 20 Oct 18 03:10 - revision 3
So basically they’re discriminating against us. I’m screwed at this Point. What little sponsorship I have, relies on me at least name dropping the vendor, and they usually embed the video on their site to help consumers out with info. Funny how far Google has moved away from corporate code of conduct.
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User #5276197 - 20 Oct 18 03:10 - revision 2
So basically they’re discriminating against us. I’m screwed at this Point. What little sponsorship I have, relies on me at least name dropping the vendor, and they usually embed the video on their site to help consumers out with info. Funny how far Google has moved away from corporate code of conduct.
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User #5276197 - 20 Oct 18 03:10
So basically they’re discriminating against us. I’m screwed at this Point. What little sponsorship I have, relies on me at least name dropping the vendor, and they usually embed the video on their site to help consumers out with info. Funny how far Google has moved away from corporate code of conduct.
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User #5614116 - 20 Oct 18 03:03
Tim, you need to document this and present it to the larger community, preferably via some form of video (perhaps even use YT to stick it to the Man). This type of behavior needs to be publicized and brought not just to our attention and the attention of others in the community, but to Federal lawmakers who are sympathetic to us. I don't want to see more government regulation, but there are times when it is needed to create a level and fair playing field and this is one of them.
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User #5276197 - 20 Oct 18 03:10 - revision 4
So basically they’re discriminating against us. I’m screwed at this Point. What little sponsorship I have, relies on me at least name dropping the vendor, and they usually embed the video on their site to help consumers out with info. Funny how far Google has moved away from corporate code of conduct.
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User #7374611 - 20 Oct 18 03:15
I wonder if youTube is still putting ads on your videos and just not paying you? I think at some point the only way to continue is to move to a different site. Have a way to notify all your viewers when you lost a new video via email. Just take away the power from Google and Facebook, ect. I am proud to me a person that pays for all the great information I receive via Patron . Please keep up the good work.
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User #11032051 - 20 Oct 18 03:47
Both MAC and "InRange" videos are full of political YouSuck adds every time I watch them including non-skippable adds. "InRange" claims and has offered proof of being 100% self demonetized (Karl showed proof their add revenue account with YouSuck has been closed/cancelled by them). I consider this PROOF that YouSuck is running adds and making money off demonetized videos uploaded to their site. Apparently political adds especially for Socialists/Democrats political adds as totally suitable for demonetized weapons content.
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User #10411670 - 20 Oct 18 21:12
Oh, YouTube absolutely IS still making money off demonetized channels and videos. This is just further proof that all their BS reasons they give for their attacks are just big fat lies.
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User #11249837 - 20 Oct 18 03:00
As much as I'm not a fan of the government getting involved this has become too much and it's gone too far. Something needs to be done about this and soon because these so-called neutral platforms have violated almost every aspect of the Clause that gives them neutrality
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User #11032051 - 20 Oct 18 04:00
I would support a basic simple law stating that any single "power" (be that corporation, organization, etc . . .) that controls more then 50% of any market is required to respect all fundamental human rights including all of the bill of rights and must act as a neutral party or be subjected to real criminal punishment, not simply "cost of doing business" little fines and settlements.
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User #11854464 - 20 Oct 18 03:13
Sounds like it's time to up my monthly subscription. Fuck YouTube.
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User #9555923 - 20 Oct 18 03:05
I've been so busy and haven't been able to watch the videos from the past several months, but this is is exactly why I will continue to support you guys! Keep fighting the good fight!
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User #11363227 - 20 Oct 18 03:00
Tim and Jason we are all grateful for everything you guys do.
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This is for our Squad Leaders and above first, then we'll open it up to others in a few days! We have a Discount Code to use on Brownells. I asked them if they could do a special for you guys, and they said YUP! So, here's the first of hopefully many codes I'll be able to share with you going forward.

Code: "2AA"

$11 off $100 + free ship

Ends 10/31/2018

As you can see this one ends October 31st. I'll work on getting another one for next month too.

Per usual, we are 100% supported by your Patreonage. We get no kickbacks from you using this code, this is a perk for supporting us. Some of the larger perks we'll share with higher support levels. We're going to have to get creative because Patreon is cracking down on giveaways.

Thank you everyone. Your support keeps us going.

Today I learned all of our past videos are no longer compliant with YouTube's community guidelines. Why? Because we give people discount codes for things like discounts at Brownells or LAX ammo or mention gun retailers and manufacturers in video. They made this change Sept 3rd. So, we're headed to 100% demonetization and the only thing keeping MAC growing is your support.

Thanks everyone! And don't forget to come see us tomorrow at FourGuns in Lafayette Indiana! We'll be there all late morning and early afternoon on Saturday Oct 20th!

Tim

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User #7615402 - 19 Oct 18 20:36
YouTube can kiss my a$$
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User #7029433 - 20 Oct 18 03:41
Nice. I'll be using that this weekend!!
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User #13963617 - 19 Oct 18 21:43
Hey that just means I'll be kicking up my donation amount Tim. You help me a lot through these video casts and things you do. Appreciate everything you and Jason have been doing for years.
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User #9150906 - 19 Oct 18 23:07
Been a subscriber for Military Arms Channel for 7 or 8 years now. You have made big improvements on your content and the production of the videos over the years. Information level has always been top notch with your videos, so becoming an Patreon was easy choice.
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militaryarms - 20 Oct 18 03:00
Thank you. If it weren’t for our Patreons MAC would become a thing of the past. It’s very expensive running a channel and without good people like you and our other Patreons it wouldn’t be possible. What’s screwed up is that we talk about a Constitutionally protected right. If we switched over to being a video game channel, given our size, we could make a modest living (but we couldn’t support Jason). But because we talk about firearms and Google is anti-gun, we get singled out for harassment and defunding. I’m sorry to ramble. If you read my most recent post you’ll see I learned even more bad news from Google today. If it weren’t for our amazing Patreons I would be forced to throw in the towel.
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User #7118828 - 19 Oct 18 21:29
Best way to end the week!
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User #2335713 - 19 Oct 18 22:16
Thank you Tim for looking out for us.
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User #5880838 - 19 Oct 18 20:17
Hell yeah thanks guys!!!
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User #4039069 - 19 Oct 18 20:21
Sweet. Sucks YouTube is so terrible. Thanks for the discounts! Keeps the Mrs happy I save a lil $$ lol
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User #5667175 - 19 Oct 18 23:02
Youtube is an exceedingly unfunny joke without a punchline
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User #7901265 - 19 Oct 18 20:27
What's the best way to kick YouNuts in the wallet? Help us help you and Lord knows what may happen!
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User #5676232 - 19 Oct 18 21:10
FYI, you can also use this code on Glock and FN brand products if you input the code on either the last or 2nd to last page of the checkout process. It won't work if you use it on the first "View Cart" page. thanks MAC, have some new glock mags and FN45 tactical mags, coming at cheaper than anywhere on the net.
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User #7728384 - 20 Oct 18 15:46
Sweet. I'm going to need that. I ordered the wrong mount for my 1-8x ACSS scope and lost the reciept so I'm stuck with it.
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User #8175973 - 20 Oct 18 02:10
Thanks MAC, saved me 30 bucks with the 11$ and free shipping!
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User #6903320 - 20 Oct 18 18:23
Nice building a 80% 9mm and need an sba3. Now it's even better
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User #6425982 - 19 Oct 18 20:20
Do the same thing that Carl did on InRangeTV, and take all the advertising out of the equation. He changed all the settings so no ads would appear, thus robbing YouTube of their revenue as well... They are completely Patreon supported - no ad revenue, no sponsors, nada...
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User #10573746 - 19 Oct 18 20:30
Thanks for the efforts man. Even if youtube is full on ridiculous.
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User #4928084 - 20 Oct 18 08:53
Thanks Tim! I just saved $15 at Brownells.
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User #11694182 - 19 Oct 18 21:07
Well, one of the most liberal CEOs in the country owns Google who happens to own YouTube so...
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User #3776620 - 20 Oct 18 00:06
Thanks MAC
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This Saturday, the 20th, we will be at FourGuns in Lafayette Indiana! Come out and meet me and Jason plus possibly win some really cool door prizes! This is one of the gun shops we frequent regularly in our travels. We will be giving away patches to our viewers (while supplies last). We hope to see you there. #meetandgreet #militaryarms

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User #13648754 - 20 Oct 18 01:13
Ill be driving through tomorrow, but alas, the availability of big truck parking around there is zip, zero, zilch lol ?
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User #6673676 - 18 Oct 18 07:58
If you can make it, have fun for me too.
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User #13496986 - 17 Oct 18 16:36
I'll be there!!!!